ATTN TUCSON AND PROVIDENCE SPAGS:

[The Good Reverend Roger]

SEND MORE HIPSTERS!

CENTRAL FILTH IS STILL HUNGRY!

Bring a net, you may feel free to come hunt them down in the West End.  Take 'em alive and ship 'em back to your place so they're fresh when you want 'em.

Somewhere near 11th and Drachmann, there is a pit full of Buddy Holly glasses, fur-trimmed jackets, "fixies", and bones.

[Suu]

And in the end, gun means yield. FFS.

Other than that, I need to watch what I do anyway. A black belt in the state of Rhode Island is considered a concealed weapon. If that kid whose wrist I broke back in August ever found me and decided to press charges, I'd be in jail for assault with a deadly weapon DESPITE the fact that I executed the move in an act of self defense.

[Luna]

And in the end, gun means yield. FFS.

Oh, hell, yes.  Sensei taught us that REALLY early.  If somebody has a gun or knife and all he wants is your wallet, shut up and hand it over.  (Which reminds me, once things warm up enough for the bastards to actually be outside, I need to grab an old wallet, toss ten bucks and assorted crap in it, and carry it as a "here ya go" in my coat.)

Other than that, I need to watch what I do anyway. A black belt in the state of Rhode Island is considered a concealed weapon. If that kid whose wrist I broke back in August ever found me and decided to press charges, I'd be in jail for assault with a deadly weapon DESPITE the fact that I executed the move in an act of self defense.

Well, THAT blows.  Though Dad always said that he'd rather come bail me out than ID me at the morgue.  (My first kubatan actually wound up in his pocket, as they were illegal in his state and he couldn't find one.)

[Richter]

And in the end, gun means yield. FFS.

Other than that, I need to watch what I do anyway. A black belt in the state of Rhode Island is considered a concealed weapon. If that kid whose wrist I broke back in August ever found me and decided to press charges, I'd be in jail for assault with a deadly weapon DESPITE the fact that I executed the move in an act of self defense.

  ITT, I am glad I never belted in anything. 

[Luna]

And in the end, gun means yield. FFS.

Other than that, I need to watch what I do anyway. A black belt in the state of Rhode Island is considered a concealed weapon. If that kid whose wrist I broke back in August ever found me and decided to press charges, I'd be in jail for assault with a deadly weapon DESPITE the fact that I executed the move in an act of self defense.

  ITT, I am glad I never belted in anything. 

No kidding. 

[The Good Reverend Roger]

A black belt in the state of Rhode Island is considered a concealed weapon.

A quick search of Rhode Island laws doesn't indicate that.

[Suu]

A black belt in the state of Rhode Island is considered a concealed weapon.

A quick search of Rhode Island laws doesn't indicate that.

Really? That's what I was told when I first moved here by one of my instructors.


...This of course, just means I can go out and break more wrists.

[The Good Reverend Roger]

A black belt in the state of Rhode Island is considered a concealed weapon.

A quick search of Rhode Island laws doesn't indicate that.

Really? That's what I was told when I first moved here by one of my instructors.


...This of course, just means I can go out and break more wrists.

Heard the same thing here and in Chicago, and in both cases it turned out to be bullshit.

If you think about it, it would be impossible to codify that into law, for two reasons.

1.  Equal protection:  Some brawlers are just as dangerous as a black belt.

2.  How do you "disarm"?  Have someone amputate your limbs?  And if you can't disarm, you'd be arrested if you ever walked into a courthouse, even if you're there because the court required it.

[Suu]

Yeah, true...Meh.

[LMNO]

I think that, if you did do something horribly violent to someone and got caught, then the prosecuter might use your skill in TKD to show increased intent to cause physical harm, or some shit like that.

[P3nT4gR4m]

I think that, if you did do something horribly violent to someone and got caught, then the prosecuter might use your skill in TKD to show increased intent to cause physical harm, or some shit like that.

If you're deemed to have used "reasonable force" to disarm an attacker then you're golden. "Reasonable force" varies. Breaking arms and legs is borderline. The kind of thing you'll need a bloody good excuse to explain away... unless, of course, it was accidental 

[Luna]

I think that, if you did do something horribly violent to someone and got caught, then the prosecuter might use your skill in TKD to show increased intent to cause physical harm, or some shit like that.

Can happen.  Tyson was, IIRC, charged with assault with a deadly weapon for punching somebody, years ago.  

[The Good Reverend Roger]

I think that, if you did do something horribly violent to someone and got caught, then the prosecuter might use your skill in TKD to show increased intent to cause physical harm, or some shit like that.

Can happen.  Tyson was, IIRC, charged with assault with a deadly weapon for punching somebody, years ago.  

In 1987, when he was 20...And it was for shoving a guy and throwing a rolled-up tee shirt.  That particular charge was laughed out of court.

[Don Coyote]

I think that, if you did do something horribly violent to someone and got caught, then the prosecuter might use your skill in TKD to show increased intent to cause physical harm, or some shit like that.

If you're deemed to have used "reasonable force" to disarm an attacker then you're golden. "Reasonable force" varies. Breaking arms and legs is borderline. The kind of thing you'll need a bloody good excuse to explain away... unless, of course, it was accidental 

"Could explain to the court how Mr. Douche O'Saurus ended up with multiple fractures of the hands and wrists?"

"I broke them your honor"

"Could you please explain why you felt that necessary?"

"Mr. O'Saurus would not stop punching at me and was making it difficult to leave the area, he was also drunk, belligerent, and out weighs me by approximately 100 pounds"

[Luna]

I think that, if you did do something horribly violent to someone and got caught, then the prosecuter might use your skill in TKD to show increased intent to cause physical harm, or some shit like that.

Can happen.  Tyson was, IIRC, charged with assault with a deadly weapon for punching somebody, years ago.  

In 1987, when he was 20...And it was for shoving a guy and throwing a rolled-up tee shirt.  That particular charge was laughed out of court.

Ah, here it is. 

http://www.nndb.com/people/257/000023188/
http://www.ebaumsworld.com/user/blog/potato_fish/view=80812943

In June 1987, Tyson allegedly tried to kiss a woman in a parking lot, and struck the lot attendant who came to the woman's defense. Tyson was charged with misdemeanor assault and battery and assault with a deadly weapon, but paid $105,000 to settle the case out of court.