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OSAMA BIN LADEN CONFIRMED DEAD.

Started by Suu, May 02, 2011, 03:55:33 AM

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Quote from: Nigel on May 04, 2011, 07:32:33 PM
Awesome.

Not that it can be undone, but still. I think people tend to forget that indians are, you know, still around. So it's just a few hurt feelings and a bad taste in their mouths... what's it matter, it's just the stragglers from a mostly successful genocide.

Playing the Indian card won't work on my Cherokee ass.  :)

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Quote from: Charley Brown on May 04, 2011, 07:36:40 PM
Quote from: Nigel on May 04, 2011, 07:32:33 PM
Awesome.

Not that it can be undone, but still. I think people tend to forget that indians are, you know, still around. So it's just a few hurt feelings and a bad taste in their mouths... what's it matter, it's just the stragglers from a mostly successful genocide.

Playing the Indian card won't work on my Cherokee ass.  :)

I'm only a tiny bit Blackfoot, so I don't think I get to play the card at all :D
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Quote from: Charley Brown on May 04, 2011, 07:36:40 PM
Quote from: Nigel on May 04, 2011, 07:32:33 PM
Awesome.

Not that it can be undone, but still. I think people tend to forget that indians are, you know, still around. So it's just a few hurt feelings and a bad taste in their mouths... what's it matter, it's just the stragglers from a mostly successful genocide.

Playing the Indian card won't work on my Cherokee ass.  :)

"Playing the indian card"? Give me a break, Charley. I know you're some kind of halfbreed like I am, but I can at least see and empathize with their reasons for feeling hurt by it and I'm not trying to dismiss or discount them by claiming that "Geronimo would have wanted it".

Being the same tribe and band that he was, it does hit a little close to home, but I'm still not putting words in a dead man's mouth.

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I'm with Nigel on this one. Old Goyahkla didn't start out as a warrior, he was a holy man. He started fighting after the Mexicans did a Custer/Sand Creek style massacre while the men were off trading for blankets with the Navajo. They wiped out women, old people and little kids as usual and I've read that they took his baby and played around with it, throwing it up and spearing it on their bayonets.

So he started raiding the settlements, white or Mexican didn't make any difference. The Apaches were in their own country bothering no one and he couldn't see any way to save them but to exterminate the invaders, you couldn't talk to them...there was already plenty of bad history before that. (Try googling Mangas Coloradas, for one.)

Goyahkla wasn't a sociopath, as an old man he used to cry about the kids he killed. He just couldn't see any other way. And he had no more regard for the US army than he did for the Mexican army. Didn't the army move the people off their lands when it was all over and force them into a shitty rez in Oklahoma?

After all these years you'd think they'd have enough respect to kep his name out of their mouths. Fuckers.
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"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."


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 No prob. I threw up in my mouth a little when I saw them calling Bin Laden "Geronimo".
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Quote from: Anna Mae Bollocks on May 04, 2011, 07:50:54 PM
I'm with Nigel on this one. Old Goyahkla didn't start out as a warrior, he was a holy man. He started fighting after the Mexicans did a Custer/Sand Creek style massacre while the men were off trading for blankets with the Navajo. They wiped out women, old people and little kids as usual and I've read that they took his baby and played around with it, throwing it up and spearing it on their bayonets.

So he started raiding the settlements, white or Mexican didn't make any difference. The Apaches were in their own country bothering no one and he couldn't see any way to save them but to exterminate the invaders, you couldn't talk to them...there was already plenty of bad history before that. (Try googling Mangas Coloradas, for one.)

Goyahkla wasn't a sociopath, as an old man he used to cry about the kids he killed. He just couldn't see any other way. And he had no more regard for the US army than he did for the Mexican army. Didn't the army move the people off their lands when it was all over and force them into a shitty rez in Oklahoma?

After all these years you'd think they'd have enough respect to kep his name out of their mouths. Fuckers.

The Eastern tribes were sent to Oklahoma, Trail of Tears. Geronimo was sent to Florida and never allowed to return to his home.

Thurnez Isa

Quote from: Doktor Blight on May 04, 2011, 06:06:13 PM
If the main objective was to kill bin Laden then, yeah they were going to waste him armed or not. Why this detail is being released is odd though. Better to say that he was armed rather than, "yeah we were going to kill him anyway so we wouldn't have to interrogate him or put him through a trial or have to some how keep him in jail for the rest of his life."

Theres a problem here though. The same people who gave the wrong information also supposedly saw the whole thing unravel via webcam. Something doesn't smell right here.
Also
Apparently he didn't die in a mansion.
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Quote from: Nigel on May 04, 2011, 07:49:40 PM
Quote from: Charley Brown on May 04, 2011, 07:36:40 PM
Quote from: Nigel on May 04, 2011, 07:32:33 PM
Awesome.

Not that it can be undone, but still. I think people tend to forget that indians are, you know, still around. So it's just a few hurt feelings and a bad taste in their mouths... what's it matter, it's just the stragglers from a mostly successful genocide.

Playing the Indian card won't work on my Cherokee ass.  :)

"Playing the indian card"? Give me a break, Charley. I know you're some kind of halfbreed like I am, but I can at least see and empathize with their reasons for feeling hurt by it and I'm not trying to dismiss or discount them by claiming that "Geronimo would have wanted it".

Being the same tribe and band that he was, it does hit a little close to home, but I'm still not putting words in a dead man's mouth.



For what it's worth, I can see your point of view. I just have a different one.

Suu

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Quote from: Suu the Infallible on May 04, 2011, 07:57:33 PM
The press isn't going to have anything right for months.

At least they classified the names of the Seal team, that should keep them secret for at least 20 years.

Thurnez Isa

Quote from: Suu the Infallible on May 04, 2011, 07:57:33 PM
The press isn't going to have anything right for months.

It wasn't the press that reported it first it was John Brennan and the government. It was the press who tracked down the real house.
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Justice moved my maker on high.
Divine power made me, Wisdom supreme, and Primal love.
Before me nothing was but things eternal, and eternal I endure.
Abandon all hope, you who enter here.

Dante