Attention, Wyldkat:

[Pope Pixie Pickle]

HOW TO DO SCREENSHOT.

PRESS "PRINT SCREEN"

COPY INTO MSPAINT

SAVE AS JPG OR PNG FILE.

UPLOAD TO PHOTOFUKKIT OAR SIMILAR

POST.

?????

Profit.

[Adios]

You maintain that you have been striving for a year to change the board. Yet unjust admin practices continue, ego is the rule of the day, you talk about the behind the scenes things but there is no real evidence. Once a horse is dead, continued beating serve no purpose. Any of us here would have walked away by no later than the second unfair admin event. Yet you continue, so we are left to draw the conclusion that your position means more to you than your ideals.

You can see, following this train of thought why you are held in such low esteem.

Ok, thank you for explaining clearly, I appreciate that.  To clarify, I've been at TCC since around 1996.  The modding practices have swung in both directions, getting consistently more moderate as the years went by.  Since I'm not going to show screen shots of the admin board there is no way for me to support my claims and I understand that people here will not believe with out proof.  I obviously look at the world differently than the people here.  I am an idealist and that leads me to continue to try and reach those ideals, not give up and leave when things swing against those ideals.  It would be easier to leave, but to me it would be the same as abandoning a child just because there are behavior issues.

Pixie:  I ranted in the pornography thread about censorship.  I don't remember what if anything I said specifically about the veggies on the main boards and I have no idea how to do screenshots.  ETA Thanks BabylonHoruv

At this point I really think I've said everything I can about why I do what I do.  You are all welcome to whatever opinions you wish to hold.

Thanks, Charley Brown, for explaining rather than attacking.

Comparing a tyrannical forum to an abandoned child isn't going to cut it. I was a years long member of MW, like so many others here and rather than "try to fix what was beyond repair" like so many others here I left. Yes, I was permabanned, but the thread I started that led to my ban was deliberate.

Roger, Cain and myself walked away from admin positions at Shadows board when he started the same thing. I was going to walk away from EB&G because of the same thing but the owner unmodded me first.

I guess what I am trying to say is, no, we can not understand your willingness to accept that kind of behavior under the guise of trying to change it. We are indeed not idealists, we are realists, a part of Discordianism I suppose. We try very hard to see things as they really are, not what we would like fo0r them to be.

[Anna Mae Bollocks]

You maintain that you have been striving for a year to change the board. Yet unjust admin practices continue, ego is the rule of the day, you talk about the behind the scenes things but there is no real evidence. Once a horse is dead, continued beating serve no purpose. Any of us here would have walked away by no later than the second unfair admin event. Yet you continue, so we are left to draw the conclusion that your position means more to you than your ideals.

You can see, following this train of thought why you are held in such low esteem.

Ok, thank you for explaining clearly, I appreciate that.  To clarify, I've been at TCC since around 1996.  The modding practices have swung in both directions, getting consistently more moderate as the years went by.  Since I'm not going to show screen shots of the admin board there is no way for me to support my claims and I understand that people here will not believe with out proof.  I obviously look at the world differently than the people here.  I am an idealist and that leads me to continue to try and reach those ideals, not give up and leave when things swing against those ideals.  It would be easier to leave, but to me it would be the same as abandoning a child just because there are behavior issues.

Pixie:  I ranted in the pornography thread about censorship.  I don't remember what if anything I said specifically about the veggies on the main boards and I have no idea how to do screenshots.  ETA Thanks BabylonHoruv

At this point I really think I've said everything I can about why I do what I do.  You are all welcome to whatever opinions you wish to hold.

Thanks, Charley Brown, for explaining rather than attacking.

Comparing a tyrannical forum to an abandoned child isn't going to cut it. I was a years long member of MW, like so many others here and rather than "try to fix what was beyond repair" like so many others here I left. Yes, I was permabanned, but the thread I started that led to my ban was deliberate.

Roger, Cain and myself walked away from admin positions at Shadows board when he started the same thing. I was going to walk away from EB&G because of the same thing but the owner unmodded me first.

I guess what I am trying to say is, no, we can not understand your willingness to accept that kind of behavior under the guise of trying to change it. We are indeed not idealists, we are realists, a part of Discordianism I suppose. We try very hard to see things as they really are, not what we would like fo0r them to be.

[Wyldkat]

Comparing a tyrannical forum to an abandoned child isn't going to cut it. I was a years long member of MW, like so many others here and rather than "try to fix what was beyond repair" like so many others here I left. Yes, I was permabanned, but the thread I started that led to my ban was deliberate.

Roger, Cain and myself walked away from admin positions at Shadows board when he started the same thing. I was going to walk away from EB&G because of the same thing but the owner unmodded me first.

I guess what I am trying to say is, no, we can not understand your willingness to accept that kind of behavior under the guise of trying to change it. We are indeed not idealists, we are realists, a part of Discordianism I suppose. We try very hard to see things as they really are, not what we would like fo0r them to be.

I was just giving my reasoning.  That's simply how I feel.  I do understand the other side of it, but I don't agree.  I am horrible at giving up at things.  I'd rather stay on a sinking ship and try to fix the holes than abandon it to the depths.  Probably masochism on my part.  I do try to be a realist, but the idealist in me fights it and tends to win. *shrugs*  Your last post really helped explain why there is so much distaste of that choice on my part though.  Thanks again.

[Payne]

Comparing a tyrannical forum to an abandoned child isn't going to cut it. I was a years long member of MW, like so many others here and rather than "try to fix what was beyond repair" like so many others here I left. Yes, I was permabanned, but the thread I started that led to my ban was deliberate.

Roger, Cain and myself walked away from admin positions at Shadows board when he started the same thing. I was going to walk away from EB&G because of the same thing but the owner unmodded me first.

I guess what I am trying to say is, no, we can not understand your willingness to accept that kind of behavior under the guise of trying to change it. We are indeed not idealists, we are realists, a part of Discordianism I suppose. We try very hard to see things as they really are, not what we would like fo0r them to be.

I was just giving my reasoning.  That's simply how I feel.  I do understand the other side of it, but I don't agree.  I am horrible at giving up at things.  I'd rather stay on a sinking ship and try to fix the holes than abandon it to the depths.  Probably masochism on my part.  I do try to be a realist, but the idealist in me fights it and tends to win. *shrugs*  Your last post really helped explain why there is so much distaste of that choice on my part though.  Thanks again.

MASOCHISM?

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

So TCC =



That sounds about right.

[Payne]

I've realy been missing out by not going there.

I now have a sad... 

[Cardinal Pizza Deliverance.]

I am new to PD.  I like it, it's causing me to rethink some of my concepts.  Concepts that grew like a nasty fungus when my brain got lazy in places like TCC.  So I came here.  And every time Wyldkat posts here all I see is that someone just shat TCC on PD!!!    

By that logic, you and I are shitting TCC all over PD as well. You were more than happy to be one of the meek little peace keeper light and fluff types until you finally Woke Up^TM. You shitting on Wyldkat for being from TCC sort of stupid and counter-productive if you're just doing it to fit in with a new crowd instead of actually thinking for yourself. It's also stupid and counter-productive if you think of yourself as a kind and compassionate person - except for when there's a really bitchin' bandwagon to jump on.

In the name of full disclosure: my own case. I was convinced in the beginning of the drama I stumbled into that I could help reconcile PD and TCC. But TCC can't hack being called on its bullshit and PD refuses to water itself down to 'acceptable levels'.  Oil and water. So I threw myself into the gap, in small ways, until I got tired. This mostly consisted of trying to get various mods to come over to PD.com and read up on all the awesome shit that gets talked about here. Then I just made popcorn and watched. Then I started thinking. And stopped trying to have everything both ways. That's how it looked to me, anyway. Others might have another take.

[Adios]

I am new to PD.  I like it, it's causing me to rethink some of my concepts.  Concepts that grew like a nasty fungus when my brain got lazy in places like TCC.  So I came here.  And every time Wyldkat posts here all I see is that someone just shat TCC on PD!!!    

By that logic, you and I are shitting TCC all over PD as well. You were more than happy to be one of the meek little peace keeper light and fluff types until you finally Woke Up^TM. You shitting on Wyldkat for being from TCC sort of stupid and counter-productive if you're just doing it to fit in with a new crowd instead of actually thinking for yourself. It's also stupid and counter-productive if you think of yourself as a kind and compassionate person - except for when there's a really bitchin' bandwagon to jump on.

In the name of full disclosure: my own case. I was convinced in the beginning of the drama I stumbled into that I could help reconcile PD and TCC. But TCC can't hack being called on its bullshit and PD refuses to water itself down to 'acceptable levels'.  Oil and water. So I threw myself into the gap, in small ways, until I got tired. This mostly consisted of trying to get various mods to come over to PD.com and read up on all the awesome shit that gets talked about here. Then I just made popcorn and watched. Then I started thinking. And stopped trying to have everything both ways. That's how it looked to me, anyway. Others might have another take.

That is what separates us from so many other forums. Lack of independent thought here will result in mental beatings, for the most part.

[Juana]

The modding practices have swung in both directions, getting consistently more moderate as the years went by.

I never, ever would have joined a board where "more moderate" modding was like TCC is now. I only tolerated the rules TCC runs by, explicitly because I was eventually going to be trolling it (after actually, carefully ingratiating myself with you so I could get away with ten times more than I would have otherwise). And the first time I looked at the rules there, I almost said "fuck it" anyway. Why the hell would anyone with a remotely independent will join a board like you're suggesting it was? And why would you spend a decade and a half there?

[Succulent Plant]

I am new to PD.  I like it, it's causing me to rethink some of my concepts.  Concepts that grew like a nasty fungus when my brain got lazy in places like TCC.  So I came here.  And every time Wyldkat posts here all I see is that someone just shat TCC on PD!!!    

By that logic, you and I are shitting TCC all over PD as well. You were more than happy to be one of the meek little peace keeper light and fluff types until you finally Woke Up^TM. You shitting on Wyldkat for being from TCC sort of stupid and counter-productive if you're just doing it to fit in with a new crowd instead of actually thinking for yourself. It's also stupid and counter-productive if you think of yourself as a kind and compassionate person - except for when there's a really bitchin' bandwagon to jump on.

In the name of full disclosure: my own case. I was convinced in the beginning of the drama I stumbled into that I could help reconcile PD and TCC. But TCC can't hack being called on its bullshit and PD refuses to water itself down to 'acceptable levels'.  Oil and water. So I threw myself into the gap, in small ways, until I got tired. This mostly consisted of trying to get various mods to come over to PD.com and read up on all the awesome shit that gets talked about here. Then I just made popcorn and watched. Then I started thinking. And stopped trying to have everything both ways. That's how it looked to me, anyway. Others might have another take.

My main issues with Wyldkat is that she's a TCC mod, and the reason why I got pissed off at TCC and left was the modding.  I don't post TCC style shit over here, and from what I've seen you don't either.  Wyldkat, IMO, does.

[Anna Mae Bollocks]

TCC exists for when you're bored and have time to get your frustrations out by pissing off stupid people. Period.

[BabylonHoruv]

I am new to PD.  I like it, it's causing me to rethink some of my concepts.  Concepts that grew like a nasty fungus when my brain got lazy in places like TCC.  So I came here.  And every time Wyldkat posts here all I see is that someone just shat TCC on PD!!!    

By that logic, you and I are shitting TCC all over PD as well. You were more than happy to be one of the meek little peace keeper light and fluff types until you finally Woke Up^TM. You shitting on Wyldkat for being from TCC sort of stupid and counter-productive if you're just doing it to fit in with a new crowd instead of actually thinking for yourself. It's also stupid and counter-productive if you think of yourself as a kind and compassionate person - except for when there's a really bitchin' bandwagon to jump on.

In the name of full disclosure: my own case. I was convinced in the beginning of the drama I stumbled into that I could help reconcile PD and TCC. But TCC can't hack being called on its bullshit and PD refuses to water itself down to 'acceptable levels'.  Oil and water. So I threw myself into the gap, in small ways, until I got tired. This mostly consisted of trying to get various mods to come over to PD.com and read up on all the awesome shit that gets talked about here. Then I just made popcorn and watched. Then I started thinking. And stopped trying to have everything both ways. That's how it looked to me, anyway. Others might have another take.

I successfully got one of the Mods to come see how awesome PD is.  She thought it was so awesome that she's now joined up.

Now I'm not saying don't shit on her, we shit on everyone.  But shitting on her simply because she mods TCC and doesn't do so well enough to balance out the fact that most of the mods are complete asstards doesn't do anyone any good.

[Cardinal Pizza Deliverance.]

I am new to PD.  I like it, it's causing me to rethink some of my concepts.  Concepts that grew like a nasty fungus when my brain got lazy in places like TCC.  So I came here.  And every time Wyldkat posts here all I see is that someone just shat TCC on PD!!!    

By that logic, you and I are shitting TCC all over PD as well. You were more than happy to be one of the meek little peace keeper light and fluff types until you finally Woke Up^TM. You shitting on Wyldkat for being from TCC sort of stupid and counter-productive if you're just doing it to fit in with a new crowd instead of actually thinking for yourself. It's also stupid and counter-productive if you think of yourself as a kind and compassionate person - except for when there's a really bitchin' bandwagon to jump on.

In the name of full disclosure: my own case. I was convinced in the beginning of the drama I stumbled into that I could help reconcile PD and TCC. But TCC can't hack being called on its bullshit and PD refuses to water itself down to 'acceptable levels'.  Oil and water. So I threw myself into the gap, in small ways, until I got tired. This mostly consisted of trying to get various mods to come over to PD.com and read up on all the awesome shit that gets talked about here. Then I just made popcorn and watched. Then I started thinking. And stopped trying to have everything both ways. That's how it looked to me, anyway. Others might have another take.

I successfully got one of the Mods to come see how awesome PD is.  She thought it was so awesome that she's now joined up.

Now I'm not saying don't shit on her, we shit on everyone.  But shitting on her simply because she mods TCC and doesn't do so well enough to balance out the fact that most of the mods are complete asstards doesn't do anyone any good.

Next time I will try bonding over bondage before temping people to PD. 

[Wyldkat]

The modding practices have swung in both directions, getting consistently more moderate as the years went by.

I never, ever would have joined a board where "more moderate" modding was like TCC is now. I only tolerated the rules TCC runs by, explicitly because I was eventually going to be trolling it (after actually, carefully ingratiating myself with you so I could get away with ten times more than I would have otherwise). And the first time I looked at the rules there, I almost said "fuck it" anyway. Why the hell would anyone with a remotely independent will join a board like you're suggesting it was? And why would you spend a decade and a half there?

Mini history (hoping that I can remember the details semi-correctly):  There weren't anything like official rules or guidelines like there are now, other than very loosely for most of the time Herne was alive, at least not as far as I can remember.  They might have been there but they were never really much of an issue.  There were some problems, but as long as he was alive it was his deal, his rules, his place.  Moderating at that point was simply hanging around and answering questions from newcomers for the most part.  Eventually a bunch of stuff went sideways and he closed down the boards (don't remember the exact details atm, might have been trolling, not sure).  The boards were reopened after he died (he was talking with me about doing so before he passed) that was when rules and guidelines and group decisions started in force.  That was also when more problems started happening more often, whether that is coincidence or not I can't say for sure.  It is moderation from that point that I'm talking about growing more moderate.