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Started by Wyldkat, May 13, 2011, 11:56:24 PM

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Quote from: Wyldkat on May 18, 2011, 02:58:05 AM
As to who in Northern Europe still follows shamanism, some of the Lapps in Sweden still follow their old beliefs and practices.

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Quote from: Triple Zero on May 17, 2011, 01:32:03 PM
Quote from: Wyldkat on May 16, 2011, 07:48:05 PM
My personal background is Northern European in an area where shamanism is still practiced

Where in Northern Europe is shamanism still practiced?

Do you mean all the homeopathetic natural "medicine" that's so popular in Germany? The "dr" Alfred Vogel of Bioforce AG, Biohorma and to have brought Echinacea from Sioux indians to Europe?

(BTW he was also a Jehova's Witness and used his profits to fund the Watchtower organisation, as well as argued and warned about the dangers of blood transfusion)

It's probably something along these lines. http://boreale.konto.itv.se/rovaniemi.htm

Told you gais.
The link has some points of interest about what gets called Sami "shamanism" these days.
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Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on May 18, 2011, 03:12:15 AM
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Quote from: Wyldkat on May 18, 2011, 02:58:05 AM
I read the book YEARS ago.  I think I was still in college and simply remembered that it was an interesting book that involved science and shamanism and that I enjoyed reading it at the time.  Now I'm going to have to find time to reread it, research the concepts and see exactly how far out there the author actually is!  That amount of time might take awhile to find...

As to who in Northern Europe still follows shamanism, some of the Lapps in Sweden still follow their old beliefs and practices.

Are you a Lapp? Are you from Sweden directly?

My mother immigrated from Finland.  She is a Swedish Finn from generations of Swedish Finns who can trace their ancestry back to Sweden.  I am 50% Swedish.

I've heard them called both Lapps and Sami, but more commonly Lapplanders among my family.

Then your family is the Finnish version of David Duke trailer trash.

Just saying.
Beat me to the punch. Better analogy too.  :lulz:

It's like calling a Black person "nigger", or an Inuit person "eskimo", or the Welsh "people".

Wait..."people" is an INSULT to the WELSH???

Nope.  The Welsh are an insult - as a breed - to people.

Yeah...the best they could do was TOM JONES??
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Mesozoic Mister Nigel

Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on May 18, 2011, 03:10:00 AM
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Quote from: Wyldkat on May 18, 2011, 02:58:05 AM
I read the book YEARS ago.  I think I was still in college and simply remembered that it was an interesting book that involved science and shamanism and that I enjoyed reading it at the time.  Now I'm going to have to find time to reread it, research the concepts and see exactly how far out there the author actually is!  That amount of time might take awhile to find...

As to who in Northern Europe still follows shamanism, some of the Lapps in Sweden still follow their old beliefs and practices.

Are you a Lapp? Are you from Sweden directly?

My mother immigrated from Finland.  She is a Swedish Finn from generations of Swedish Finns who can trace their ancestry back to Sweden.  I am 50% Swedish.

I've heard them called both Lapps and Sami, but more commonly Lapplanders among my family.

Then your family is the Finnish version of David Duke trailer trash.

Just saying.
Beat me to the punch. Better analogy too.  :lulz:

It's like calling a Black person "nigger", or an Inuit person "eskimo", or the Welsh "people".

:argh!:
"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."


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Quote from: Wyldkat on May 18, 2011, 03:04:59 AM
Quote from: Canis latrans securis on May 18, 2011, 02:59:34 AM
Quote from: Wyldkat on May 18, 2011, 02:58:05 AM
I read the book YEARS ago.  I think I was still in college and simply remembered that it was an interesting book that involved science and shamanism and that I enjoyed reading it at the time.  Now I'm going to have to find time to reread it, research the concepts and see exactly how far out there the author actually is!  That amount of time might take awhile to find...

As to who in Northern Europe still follows shamanism, some of the Lapps in Sweden still follow their old beliefs and practices.

Are you a Lapp? Are you from Sweden directly?

My mother immigrated from Finland.  She is a Swedish Finn from generations of Swedish Finns who can trace their ancestry back to Sweden.  I am 50% Swedish.


No, you're not. I'm betting you've never even BEEN to Sweden. Having Swedish ancestors doesn't make YOU Swedish, jerklips.
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Quote from: Rip City Hustle on May 18, 2011, 04:11:56 PM
Quote from: Wyldkat on May 18, 2011, 03:04:59 AM
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Quote from: Wyldkat on May 18, 2011, 02:58:05 AM
I read the book YEARS ago.  I think I was still in college and simply remembered that it was an interesting book that involved science and shamanism and that I enjoyed reading it at the time.  Now I'm going to have to find time to reread it, research the concepts and see exactly how far out there the author actually is!  That amount of time might take awhile to find...

As to who in Northern Europe still follows shamanism, some of the Lapps in Sweden still follow their old beliefs and practices.

Are you a Lapp? Are you from Sweden directly?

My mother immigrated from Finland.  She is a Swedish Finn from generations of Swedish Finns who can trace their ancestry back to Sweden.  I am 50% Swedish.


No, you're not. I'm betting you've never even BEEN to Sweden. Having Swedish ancestors doesn't make YOU Swedish, jerklips.

And that's a GOOD thing. :) A "blessing" I would say.

During these time at least. Lost the gold in ice hockey few days ago and all that.

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Reeducation

Quote from: Triple Zero on May 19, 2011, 09:46:58 AM
That's the people that get high by feeding fly agaric to reindeer and then drinking their piss, right?



I think they all up there in the norther parts of the countries do that. Norwegians, swedes, finns and russians.
The air is thinner or something.
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Well, they're damn good at making heavy metal, I can give them that much.  Some of the best metal bands around come from Finland. 
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Reeducation

Quote from: R.W.H.N. on May 19, 2011, 10:51:29 AM
Well, they're damn good at making heavy metal, I can give them that much.  Some of the best metal bands around come from Finland. 

Yeah but we also like to kill ourselves way too much. It's like we just like to do it. Perhaps there is the connection?
There are two options, suicide or music.
It would explain this :http://www.khaleejtimes.com/DisplayArticleNew.asp?xfile=data/todaysfeatures/2007/September/todaysfeatures_September15.xml&section=todaysfeatures&col
Because what started to happen at the same time? Better albums started to appear everywhere. :eek:

Weird times I tell you.
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Quote from: Cain on May 14, 2011, 12:46:32 AM
Quote from: Nigel on May 14, 2011, 12:41:08 AM
Hey... I take exception to that. I'm epileptic and no one has ever given me any goats.  :cry:

Then you need to harass this person with your visions of imminent doom more often.

Hey!
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Quote from: Doktor Blight on May 19, 2011, 03:49:11 PM
Quote from: Cain on May 14, 2011, 12:46:32 AM
Quote from: Nigel on May 14, 2011, 12:41:08 AM
Hey... I take exception to that. I'm epileptic and no one has ever given me any goats.  :cry:

Then you need to harass this person with your visions of imminent doom more often.

Hey!

Dammit. I want a villager to respect my authoritay as the apocalyptic vision-haver! And give me some fucking goats!
"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."


Mesozoic Mister Nigel

Quote from: Rip City Hustle on May 18, 2011, 04:11:56 PM
Quote from: Wyldkat on May 18, 2011, 03:04:59 AM
Quote from: Canis latrans securis on May 18, 2011, 02:59:34 AM
Quote from: Wyldkat on May 18, 2011, 02:58:05 AM
I read the book YEARS ago.  I think I was still in college and simply remembered that it was an interesting book that involved science and shamanism and that I enjoyed reading it at the time.  Now I'm going to have to find time to reread it, research the concepts and see exactly how far out there the author actually is!  That amount of time might take awhile to find...

As to who in Northern Europe still follows shamanism, some of the Lapps in Sweden still follow their old beliefs and practices.

Are you a Lapp? Are you from Sweden directly?

My mother immigrated from Finland.  She is a Swedish Finn from generations of Swedish Finns who can trace their ancestry back to Sweden.  I am 50% Swedish.


No, you're not. I'm betting you've never even BEEN to Sweden. Having Swedish ancestors doesn't make YOU Swedish, jerklips.

This brings up an interesting question. If one of your parents is an American of indeterminate/mixed racial origin, and moves to the UK, breeds, and has you with some Britspag for the other parent, are you then half British and half American? Do you get to go around telling people about  your American heritage? How does that work, exactly?

What about a half-Australian, half-American born in France?
"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."


Nephew Twiddleton

Quote from: Nigel on May 19, 2011, 04:07:15 PM
Quote from: Doktor Blight on May 19, 2011, 03:49:11 PM
Quote from: Cain on May 14, 2011, 12:46:32 AM
Quote from: Nigel on May 14, 2011, 12:41:08 AM
Hey... I take exception to that. I'm epileptic and no one has ever given me any goats.  :cry:

Then you need to harass this person with your visions of imminent doom more often.

Hey!

Dammit. I want a villager to respect my authoritay as the apocalyptic vision-haver! And give me some fucking goats!

We ran out of goats last week I'm afraid. Not that easy to come by in Boston.
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Sentence or sentence fragment pending

Soy El Vaquero Peludo de Oro

TIM AM I, PRIMARY OF THE EXTRA-ATMOSPHERIC SIMIANS

Mesozoic Mister Nigel

Or half Canadian, half Kiwi, conceived in India but born in Egypt and living in the Phillipines?
"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."