Christian Rapport

[Salty]

My understanding is we're not supposed to discriminate against people of different religions solely because they're a part of a certain faith. And generally I agree.

We all have people in our lives who do not share our values, morals, silly beliefs (just about everyone has SOME kind of silly belief floating around). Sometimes their funny hats are simply shaped differently than ours. And that's OK.

You can't go around assigning unwarranted values to people just because they believe in fairy-tales. I can't go around saying "I fucking HATE Christians. All of them, they oughtta be launched into the sun right along with Mac users." My sister is one for chrissake. A Christian, that is.

And yet...

Sitting at home with various progeny:

"Hey guess what?" says Mah Boy#1, age 5, without looking up from a coloring book.

"What?" says I.

"You should choose your friends carefully."

"Now that is some stellar advice, buddy. Did you learn that at school?"

"Yep! And you know what else?"

"What?"

"When you look at other people's private parts God turns your heart black." He says.

Neither words nor smilies can properly explain my emotion at this time.

I explain to him, at length, that that simply isn't true and he was being lied to. Adults can look at other adult's private parts when they both want to (he starts shaking his head violently, I persist) but kids cannot. They need to wait until blah blah blah.

He wonders why he was lied to.

"Because they don't think you're smart enough to understand this, buddy. But I think you are VERY smart and want you to understand this."

SO, not a little bit but very much enraged I go to the Korean Open-Door Presbyterian daycare* called ...wait for it...Morning Star Christian School** and ask the teacher very calmly "What the shit?"

The teacher says her hands are tied, she doesn't agree with it but that's what they have written out in the books they teach from, the ones the school issues or uses from a network of Korean Open-Door Presbyterian churches I suppose.

This place, much like other churches I am very familiar with in town, instituionlizes needless shame from the very moment children are capable of understanding it.

And sure, if Wiccans had enough organization or focus or sheer numbers they would probably accomplish the same just different. See: points raised in gender thread RE: ending up eating your own bullshit.

But they DON'T. Even if it's because they CAN'T they DON'T right now.

So I don't worry about Wiccans. Or other minor and/or stupid religions. I worry about the one's with numbers and money and a history of fucking shit up while saving you. I would never want to take away their right to teach children that an invisible man in the sky will blacken your heart and turn you into an evil subhuman because you dared to look at another person's junk. That would be wrong, right?

But they genuinely scare me.

The lady that runs that daycare is the nicest and smiliest person you could ever meet. Until she saw me reading a book on Tarot a few years ago. That smile dropped like a sack of bass. What would she do if she had the opportunity to impose those values on all aspects of my life? What kind of real life consequences does an imagination (or lack of) like that dream up for the black-hearted? History is pretty clear there, humans of all types and faiths do all kinds of fucked up shit.

I treat them all equally, but I fear some more than others. And I suppose that's discrimination too.

I'm OK with that.

OR KILL ME.







*Look, I know I get to choose where my kids go to daycare. Except I can't. It's not just my choice, and that coupled with convenience (not mine) laziness (again, not mine) and money (sigh) I have to use this daycare right now. I would love a different one but...at least he's safe at this one. Quality, affordable non-cult daycare with two openings is hard to find in Anchorage, kay? Plus, this one is going to public school this fall where I'm sure the quality of his education will improve. Ha. Ha.

**What in the FUCK is up with that? Their translations can NOT be that bad? No Christian, no Human is so stupid as to...well, nevermind.

[Adios]

Well done Alty.

Originally I think it was the controlling leading the blind that caused this. After so many generations it has become the blind leading the blind.

[LMNO]

[Salty]

Thanks Charley!

Ugh don't get me started on blind leading the blind. I have new management at my work.
UNNNNNNNGGGGGGGGGG.

LMNO: That's what happens to perverts.

[Eater of Clowns]

MORNING STAR CHRISTIAN SCHOOL!?

I almost want to see it when I visit the city, because that's hilariously stupid.

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

MORNING STAR CHRISTIAN SCHOOL!?

I almost want to see it when I visit the city, because that's hilariously stupid.

What am I missing there? 

[Eater of Clowns]

MORNING STAR CHRISTIAN SCHOOL!?

I almost want to see it when I visit the city, because that's hilariously stupid.

What am I missing there? 

Lucifer was the Morning Star before the fall.

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

MORNING STAR CHRISTIAN SCHOOL!?

I almost want to see it when I visit the city, because that's hilariously stupid.

What am I missing there? 

Lucifer was the Morning Star before the fall.

Oh!  That's hilarious!

[Adios]

Who is the Fallen Star that brings death, (the reflection or son of Fallen angel Belial), the son of "Morning" (Sun God Baal/Satan), the bright "Morning Star" Lucifer.
Rev 22:16

Also see WORMWOOD for giggles.

[Adios]

I, Jesus, have sent my angel to testify these things in the churches. I am the root and the spawn of David, and I am the bright Morning Star.



I see potential trolling material with this conflict.

[Elder Iptuous]

Heh....
morningstar, that's awesome.
we actually have an 'angel of light' church here in town...

regarding your situation, that sucks, and i'm sorry to hear it.
we send our kiddos to a preschool that is at some methodist church, but they don't really preach religion.  only thing that's happened so far is my son asked if Jesus made our car.  i said 'no, toyota did', and he seemed satisfied with that.

oh! oh... we also have a church named 'Overcoming Faith Church', which i always thought was odd sounding...

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

Well fuck, I'm seeing these guys in a whole new light then!

http://www.morningstarfarms.com/

[BabylonHoruv]

I've been using that Jesus is Lucifer thing for a while, since they are both the morning star.

They have some other things in common as well so long as you don't mind LO5ing it a bit.

[P3nT4gR4m]

They have some other things in common as well so long as you don't mind LO5ing it a bit.

I love doing that cos it's so easy to sound knowledgeable and well-researched while completely spinning bullshit off the top of your head.

eg. Lucifer was the bearer of light, ie. the sun. When proto-christianity was trying to establish a foothold it was up against established pagan, heliocentric religion so it followed naturally that the sun would be demonised to this end, hence the OT fall. Later on, still attempting to supplant pagan religious festivals (largely centered around the solar calender) the new testament jesus was written into these existing festivals, playing the part of the son (there's a reason "son" and "sun" both sound the same.

truth is pointless, it's like fighting fire with fire - you have to fight bullshit with even more bullshit

[Cain]

The Process Church of the Final Judgement are also fond of that idea.  As they are of serial killers and sacrificing dogs, which may not make them the best example for comparison.