Idaho Woman Arrested and Charged with 'Unlawful Abortion'

[Cardinal Pizza Deliverance.]

What's going to be awesome is when people with PCOS and similar issues start having more spontaneous miscarriages because all manner of birth control are taboo. People will be convinced there's a rash of crazy women ditching their fetuses for the fun of it, not that there's a portion of the female population with bodies that cannot support viable offspring.

Man. I keep having one crazy extreme dystopian thought after another regarding this subject.

Customers at my work want to know when I'm going to grow up and shit out a sprog. Docs won't fix me until I have a few kids or I hit 40. My family has been pissed at me since I was 16 and refused to drop out of school to get married and start spawning.

I wonder if I would have been arrested when I miscarried while in college.

I wonder if they're going to make it mandatory for gender-dysphoric people or F2M to undergo hormone therapies to 'normalize' them for breeding purposes.

I wonder why my eye is twitching.

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

Except Cain, who could bite your heart in half.  Hearts are very tough.  You couldn't do this.  No.

It's true.  All muscle and....blood.  Anyone who watched the last episode of A Game Of Thrones knows just how difficult eating a whole raw heart can be, too.

I eat hearts on a regular basis (they're getting harder to find, BTW) and they really take pressure-cooking for a few hours to be tender.

With mustard.

Nothing like a heart sandwich.

[Cardinal Pizza Deliverance.]

Back to the original story, an update:

McCormack has three children ages 2, 11 and 17. She could not be reached by phone and it was unclear if she had retained an attorney.

If convicted, she faces up to five years in prison and a $5,000 fine.

http://www.idahopress.com/news/state/article_af96d919-7f3f-5969-8c77-bc918b3cc2b5.html

Fucking hell.  Amazing how fast sympathy and support for someone can change to disgust and disdain.  

A fucking box on the porch? 

Really? You complete and utter sack of shit?

What should she have done with it? My friend buried her miscarriage in the herb garden. Most women flush them because WHAT THE FUCK DO YOU DO WITH THAT??? WHAT WOULD YOU DO?


You are an asshole unworthy of conversing with any of us.

Depending on what she took, it could have tripled the pain of a miscarriage and the depression that comes with it - not to mention the guilt and stress and horror she was feeling for the choice she made.

It's a tough place to be in, DiscoPickle. I hope you're never in a spot like that.

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

Roger:  I'm not talking about land ownership.  I'm talking about obtaining goods and services over the border that are cheaper in Mexico at the expense of the average Mexican. 

So I'm not sure why you are disagreeing with me.

Not to sound combative but that's a bit of a simplified statement.

Despite watching for decades (70+ years) as the same political party fraudulently "won" elections and gave political favors to supporters of the party, the population at large made little effort to remove the PRI.

It's only been in the last few decades that there's been any real move to take PRI out of power and provide some level of check and balance that should have already existed given the system of government since the Revolution.  I think we'll see a lot more positive changes come about by having real competition in their political process and a very enthusiastic youth movement.  And foreign investment capital returning to the country after their last major crisis should be seen as a good thing. 

Change probably will happen slowly, but fixing nearly 3/4 of a century of systemic corruption at all levels of government is a lot to have to reverse.

I didn't really make that qualitative of a statement on the American dollars being funneled into Mexico.  In point of fact, I've always been very PRO-American support of the Mexican economy.  For those who complain about Mexicans working "our jobs" over here, I've usually replied that I think we should do MORE to improve Mexico, so that it continues to improve.

Yes, I stated an oversimplification, but it doesn't remove the fact that the majority of Mexicans are still 1) poor 2) uneducated 3) malnourished, and that luxury items are still bought there cheaply by Americans, and luxury services are still obtained much more cheaply over THERE than they are HERE, and USUALLY at the expense of the very poor.  Even if they're not available, for whatever reason, to the average Mexican citizen on the street.

I think investment in Mexico is a great thing, a wonderful thing. And  I totally believe and know well that the corruption in Mexico's government is rife.  AND I totally think government, the drug cartels and big business IN Mexico is to blame for the continuing plight of the average Mexican Juan.

I'm frustrated that Roger characterized what I said as "all Mexicans want is $$$" because that's not what I meant.  I meant that your average hard-working yet still poverty-level guy in Mexico can't get in goods and services what your very-average American Joe CAN.  Because the powers that be in Mexico set it up that way.

What I meant by those who are disenfranchised by OUR states' laws and can't get what they want will come to Mexico to get it, and get it cheaper, than they can in Mexico, because though its own citizens might be denied access to it, unofficially and with the proper bribes, your average Westernized citizen won't.  Right now, there's plenty of our elderly and retirees down in Mexico getting cheap-ass (for us) premium health care at privatized hospitals.  Health care that would cost them tens to hundreds of thousands here.  They've made whole retirement communities along the Mexican coastline for this purpose.  You think the average Mexican "retiree" has the best health care they can get? 

Will someone PLEASE tell me where this, what I'm saying above, goes wrong?  Aside from the usual "you're making assumptions, blah blah"?  Living on the border as I do, and the amount of people I see who hail from Mexico proper, day to day, sort of makes me feel like I know this situation pretty fucking well.

Whatever.  I don't have time for this.  Right now, it seems:

Stop! You're BOTH right!

[Disco Pickle]

Back to the original story, an update:

McCormack has three children ages 2, 11 and 17. She could not be reached by phone and it was unclear if she had retained an attorney.

If convicted, she faces up to five years in prison and a $5,000 fine.

http://www.idahopress.com/news/state/article_af96d919-7f3f-5969-8c77-bc918b3cc2b5.html

Fucking hell.  Amazing how fast sympathy and support for someone can change to disgust and disdain.  

A fucking box on the porch? 

Really? You complete and utter sack of shit?

What should she have done with it? My friend buried her miscarriage in the herb garden. Most women flush them because WHAT THE FUCK DO YOU DO WITH THAT??? WHAT WOULD YOU DO?


You are an asshole unworthy of conversing with any of us.

You forgot to add: "because you don't completely agree with what we think about it"

Noted that dissenting opinions are unwelcome at PD, at least according to Nigel.

No further replies should come from me tonight ITT.   

[Don Coyote]

From FB

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

Back to the original story, an update:

McCormack has three children ages 2, 11 and 17. She could not be reached by phone and it was unclear if she had retained an attorney.

If convicted, she faces up to five years in prison and a $5,000 fine.

http://www.idahopress.com/news/state/article_af96d919-7f3f-5969-8c77-bc918b3cc2b5.html

Fucking hell.  Amazing how fast sympathy and support for someone can change to disgust and disdain.  

A fucking box on the porch? 

Really? You complete and utter sack of shit?

What should she have done with it? My friend buried her miscarriage in the herb garden. Most women flush them because WHAT THE FUCK DO YOU DO WITH THAT??? WHAT WOULD YOU DO?


You are an asshole unworthy of conversing with any of us.

You forgot to add: "because you don't completely agree with what we think about it"

Noted that dissenting opinions are unwelcome at PD, at least according to Nigel.

No further replies should come from me tonight ITT.   

AHAHAHAHAHA

I AM the dissenting opinion at least half the time. What, can't defend your position? Gotta play the whiny oppressed bitch card? SACK UP, PITIFUL WEAKLING.

If you can't defend your position using actual logical arguments, at least have the scrotal fortitude to accept that your shit got manned down. I mean, I do when I'm full of shit, and I don't even HAVE scrotes.

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

From FB

You gotta love people who view babies as a commodity such as rice or gasoline.

Oh wait! No you don't.

[Cardinal Pizza Deliverance.]

From FB

You gotta love people who view babies as a commodity such as rice or gasoline.

Oh wait! No you don't.

I think you should love them, Nigel. With your steel toed stompy boots.

[Cain]

Except Cain, who could bite your heart in half.  Hearts are very tough.  You couldn't do this.  No.

It's true.  All muscle and....blood.  Anyone who watched the last episode of A Game Of Thrones knows just how difficult eating a whole raw heart can be, too.

I eat hearts on a regular basis (they're getting harder to find, BTW) and they really take pressure-cooking for a few hours to be tender.

With mustard.

Nothing like a heart sandwich.

That's because of the Twilight fandom.

Although now the GoT fandom will likely try and get in on the act as well.  Invest in hearts now, before the supply dries up completely.

[Freeky]

Except Cain, who could bite your heart in half.  Hearts are very tough.  You couldn't do this.  No.

It's true.  All muscle and....blood.  Anyone who watched the last episode of A Game Of Thrones knows just how difficult eating a whole raw heart can be, too.

I eat hearts on a regular basis (they're getting harder to find, BTW) and they really take pressure-cooking for a few hours to be tender.

With mustard.

Nothing like a heart sandwich.

You put MUSTARD on that sh--- I mean, oh? Is it tasty?










steak sauce or bust

[Luna]

From FB

You gotta love people who view babies as a commodity such as rice or gasoline.

Oh wait! No you don't.

I think you should love them, Nigel. With your steel toed stompy boots.

So...  Force women to have babies so other people can adopt...  The people who HAVEN'T adopted the over 100,000 kids sitting in the foster care system waiting for parents, because all these paragons want to adopt is cute little babies...

Riiight.

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

Except Cain, who could bite your heart in half.  Hearts are very tough.  You couldn't do this.  No.

It's true.  All muscle and....blood.  Anyone who watched the last episode of A Game Of Thrones knows just how difficult eating a whole raw heart can be, too.

I eat hearts on a regular basis (they're getting harder to find, BTW) and they really take pressure-cooking for a few hours to be tender.

With mustard.

Nothing like a heart sandwich.

That's because of the Twilight fandom.

Although now the GoT fandom will likely try and get in on the act as well.  Invest in hearts now, before the supply dries up completely.

FUCK.

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

Except Cain, who could bite your heart in half.  Hearts are very tough.  You couldn't do this.  No.

It's true.  All muscle and....blood.  Anyone who watched the last episode of A Game Of Thrones knows just how difficult eating a whole raw heart can be, too.

I eat hearts on a regular basis (they're getting harder to find, BTW) and they really take pressure-cooking for a few hours to be tender.

With mustard.

Nothing like a heart sandwich.

You put MUSTARD on that sh--- I mean, oh? Is it tasty?










steak sauce or bust

IT'S DELICIOUS!

Yummy pungent brown mustard.

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

From FB

You gotta love people who view babies as a commodity such as rice or gasoline.

Oh wait! No you don't.

I think you should love them, Nigel. With your steel toed stompy boots.

So...  Force women to have babies so other people can adopt...  The people who HAVEN'T adopted the over 100,000 kids sitting in the foster care system waiting for parents, because all these paragons want to adopt is cute little babies...

Riiight.

Yes, exactly. Not to mention the wisdom of handing a kid over to someone who views human beings as a commodity.