REEFER MADNESS!!!!!!

[BabylonHoruv]

(edited at Trix's request since BH will never be here to edit it himself, thank fucking Christ for small favors)

You do realize that your IP is being logged, and that unlike ECH your statute of limitation has NOT passed?

[trix]

Rampant assumptions about how much credibility I lack, knowing practically nothing about me, is above you, Nigel.  Your Ex was a ex-heroin junkie?  Whoopdie fuckin doo.

*

Just because some shit goes some way in your area does not make your experience true everywhere.  And it's a bit ridiculous that I have to point that out.

You do realize that your IP is being logged, and that unlike ECH your statute of limitation has NOT passed?

My internet usage is via McDonalds wifi, so go ahead, make my day.  Make sure to hang out at McD's looking for a guy that looks like that blurry 10 year old photo in my avatar.  You'll be waiting a long time...

[East Coast Hustle]

I think he was just pointing it out for your benefit in case it hadn't occurred to you how dumb it is to talk about that shit when you're still involved in it.

Also, anyone who smokes these "fry daddies" is retarded. Not just because they're smoking crack with weed (what's the fuckin' point of that, even?) but because the temperature at which a joint smolders is not going to be hot enough to vaporize most of the crack, so they're essentially wasting at least 50% of the rock they put in there.

[trix]

I think he was just pointing it out for your benefit in case it hadn't occurred to you how dumb it is to talk about that shit when you're still involved in it.

Also, anyone who smokes these "fry daddies" is retarded. Not just because they're smoking crack with weed (what's the fuckin' point of that, even?) but because the temperature at which a joint smolders is not going to be hot enough to vaporize most of the crack, so they're essentially wasting at least 50% of the rock they put in there.

I agree that it's retarded, most of the ghetto shwag loving gangbangers into that shit aren't very intelligent.  But it does happen.

[Bruno]

I've wondered if maybe some acid, at some point, somewhere, did have some strychnine in it because some idiot with a vial and some blotter paper heard that you have to use it to get the LSD to stick to the paper, or whatever reason it was that people said acid had strychnine in it.

[BadBeast]

I've wondered if maybe some acid, at some point, somewhere, did have some strychnine in it because some idiot with a vial and some blotter paper heard that you have to use it to get the LSD to stick to the paper, or whatever reason it was that people said acid had strychnine in it.

As far as I understand it, when making blotter Acid, a small amount of strychnine keeps the liquid Acid stable and increases it's shelf life. But the amounts are negligible. Acid on gelatin sheets didn't need to have any strychnine. The worst effect from it anyway was the occasional stomach cramp, but if you were peaking on a 500 mike trip, and you got a cramp, it's easy enough to convince yourself you are slowly dying from strychnine poisoning, when in fact, you are not. Hilarious.

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Lacing doesn't happen?  I've SEEN IT happen.  In fact, a few years ago there was all this hoopla in Milwaukee because some drug dealers laced a bunch of crack with weed they sold to high school kids, to get them addicted and coming back for more.  I don't know if the addiction worked or not but a few kids were seriously hurt from over-smoking the shit and having heart problems.

Personally, I've never had my shit laced.  But I'm no high school kid, and I buy from friends, not some random Rasta in the park.  But it DOES happen, however rare.

- trix

EDIT: Typed too quickly, fixed.

Why haven't I been qualifying all¹ my descriptions to include the possibility of very rare events?

1 - By "all"² I refer to its incidence on the first line of this response meaning "not literally all the time, but for the vast fucking majority of the fucking time, for fucks sake really?"
2 - I'm using '"all"'³ here to refer to the reference of its incidence on the first line of this response ("this response" referring to material that is not a footnote—should one consider responses to occasionally include footnotes, which I do, I exclude them all unconditionally in this post except the contents of this parenthesis).
3 -Just in case you accidentally'd some fry daddies, and needed such clarification.

[Cuddlefish]

I also hope you don't honestly think that the legalization movement isn't prone to bouts of dogmatism.  It's another hallow and lazy argument.  I put up substantive points backed by peer research and best practices.  If I'm wrong, show me how I'm wrong.  

Talking about the "legalization movement" in general is another hollow and lazy argument. You have put up some substantive points, and most people on the legalization side acknowledged them as valid. However, you seem incapable of admitting you're wrong about anything marijuana related.

When you repeatedly do things like:

• Ignore widespread damaging effects of marijuana prohibition
• Reframe arguments solely around harm to children
• Smear opponents as "just wanting to get high"
• Ignore reams of peer-reviewed science when convenient
• Restate FDA/DEA/NIDA information incessantly as though it paints a full and unequivocal picture
• Ignore blatant US obstructionism in scientific research of marijuana
• Fabricate absurdly naive narratives about cartels
• Smear valid evidence with unsubstantiated claims of bias (call this "evidence-based counter-argument")
• Distort the context for marijuana by declaring comparisons to other substances "immaterial"

people will think you're wrong.

Mostly this. But really, I got a little pissed off at the fact that RWHN actually tries to scare children out of smoking weed by telling them that it effects their "anatomy." That's a horrible little slice of misinformation to be scaring kids with right there. You may as well just tell them they'll go to hell if they smoke weed. Although, telling them that their junk will shrivel away might be scarier for a teenage boy.

Plus, the argument against legalization because it introduces weed into the social system (or however he phrased it) and therefore is more available to kids, well, sorry, but it's available either way. EVERYWHERE. Wouldn't it make more sense to be able to regulate and controll it? To know where it comes from? Y'know, I don't know ANY weed dealers that check ID's.

You and the police exchanging information? Isn't that called an echo chamber? Either way, the cops are just parroting back at you the same stuff you put out. Every cop I've encountered has been tragically out of touch.

Different things effect different people in different ways. To make blanket statements about what weed does and doesn't do is ridiculous. To use these blanket statements to scare kids is pretty evil. The only way for sure to know how weed will or won't effect you is to smoke a joint. One WON'T kill you.

I just want to know what weed did to you that got you all pissed off. Seriously, most of what you said in here was insulting and offensive to me. Do you think everyone here is a brain-dead, maladjusted, drug-monger with a shrunken dick? It's one thing to spread some bull-shit, it's another to actually believe it.

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

That's funny; earlier you claimed you saw it in a news report, and now you're claiming that you have firsthand knowledge that the shitty brick weed in the ghetto is laced with "ground-up crack" (Which is, by the way, called "cocaine"). I absolutely believe that dealers will TELL their users that the shit is laced with crack to get them to spend money on it, but until I see evidence otherwise it's firmly in the realm of urban legend.

And no, I don't believe for one fucking second that you've SEEN it. I think you've HEARD of it, as you said before, and are now trying to pass hearsay off as firsthand experience.

I will confess to being surprised you're in college... I had you pegged for a 10th-grader.

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

I also hope you don't honestly think that the legalization movement isn't prone to bouts of dogmatism.  It's another hallow and lazy argument.  I put up substantive points backed by peer research and best practices.  If I'm wrong, show me how I'm wrong.  

Talking about the "legalization movement" in general is another hollow and lazy argument. You have put up some substantive points, and most people on the legalization side acknowledged them as valid. However, you seem incapable of admitting you're wrong about anything marijuana related.

When you repeatedly do things like:

• Ignore widespread damaging effects of marijuana prohibition
• Reframe arguments solely around harm to children
• Smear opponents as "just wanting to get high"
• Ignore reams of peer-reviewed science when convenient
• Restate FDA/DEA/NIDA information incessantly as though it paints a full and unequivocal picture
• Ignore blatant US obstructionism in scientific research of marijuana
• Fabricate absurdly naive narratives about cartels
• Smear valid evidence with unsubstantiated claims of bias (call this "evidence-based counter-argument")
• Distort the context for marijuana by declaring comparisons to other substances "immaterial"

people will think you're wrong.

Mostly this. But really, I got a little pissed off at the fact that RWHN actually tries to scare children out of smoking weed by telling them that it effects their "anatomy." That's a horrible little slice of misinformation to be scaring kids with right there. You may as well just tell them they'll go to hell if they smoke weed. Although, telling them that their junk will shrivel away might be scarier for a teenage boy.

Plus, the argument against legalization because it introduces weed into the social system (or however he phrased it) and therefore is more available to kids, well, sorry, but it's available either way. EVERYWHERE. Wouldn't it make more sense to be able to regulate and controll it? To know where it comes from? Y'know, I don't know ANY weed dealers that check ID's.

You and the police exchanging information? Isn't that called an echo chamber? Either way, the cops are just parroting back at you the same stuff you put out. Every cop I've encountered has been tragically out of touch.

Different things effect different people in different ways. To make blanket statements about what weed does and doesn't do is ridiculous. To use these blanket statements to scare kids is pretty evil. The only way for sure to know how weed will or won't effect you is to smoke a joint. One WON'T kill you.

I just want to know what weed did to you that got you all pissed off. Seriously, most of what you said in here was insulting and offensive to me. Do you think everyone here is a brain-dead, maladjusted, drug-monger with a shrunken dick? It's one thing to spread some bull-shit, it's another to actually believe it.

The reason I don't like the lies is that kids figure out it's bullshit and then assume that adults are lying to them about other, more damaging drugs as well. After all, if we're lying to them about pot, why wouldn't we be lying to them about meth? I think it's absolutely not only counterproductive, but also dangerously irresponsible.

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

Curious that Trix called me "Nigel" despite (ostensibly) never having known me as Nigel.

[Cuddlefish]

Curious that Trix called me "Nigel" despite (ostensibly) never having known me as Nigel.

  POPTARD!!! 

The reason I don't like the lies is that kids figure out it's bullshit and then assume that adults are lying to them about other, more damaging drugs as well. After all, if we're lying to them about pot, why wouldn't we be lying to them about meth? I think it's absolutely not only counterproductive, but also dangerously irresponsible.

Agreed, AND bolded!

[East Coast Hustle]

(quote edited at Trix's request to remove incriminating statements)

That's funny; earlier you claimed you saw it in a news report, and now you're claiming that you have firsthand knowledge that the shitty brick weed in the ghetto is laced with "ground-up crack" (Which is, by the way, called "cocaine"). I absolutely believe that dealers will TELL their users that the shit is laced with crack to get them to spend money on it, but until I see evidence otherwise it's firmly in the realm of urban legend.

Totally this, except that you can't grind crack back into powder cocaine. Snorting ground crack won't do a thing.

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

That's funny; earlier you claimed you saw it in a news report, and now you're claiming that you have firsthand knowledge that the shitty brick weed in the ghetto is laced with "ground-up crack" (Which is, by the way, called "cocaine"). I absolutely believe that dealers will TELL their users that the shit is laced with crack to get them to spend money on it, but until I see evidence otherwise it's firmly in the realm of urban legend.

Totally this, except that you can't grind crack back into powder cocaine. Snorting ground crack won't do a thing.

(It does if it's been treated with a little lemon juice or vinegar, but that's neither here nor there. I don't even know why I know this.  )

[trix]

Rampant assumptions about how much credibility I lack, knowing practically nothing about me, is above you, Nigel.  Your Ex was a ex-heroin junkie?  Whoopdie fuckin doo.

*

Just because some shit goes some way in your area does not make your experience true everywhere.  And it's a bit ridiculous that I have to point that out.

That's funny; earlier you claimed you saw it in a news report, and now you're claiming that you have firsthand knowledge that the shitty brick weed in the ghetto is laced with "ground-up crack" (Which is, by the way, called "cocaine"). I absolutely believe that dealers will TELL their users that the shit is laced with crack to get them to spend money on it, but until I see evidence otherwise it's firmly in the realm of urban legend.

And no, I don't believe for one fucking second that you've SEEN it. I think you've HEARD of it, as you said before, and are now trying to pass hearsay off as firsthand experience.

I will confess to being surprised you're in college... I had you pegged for a 10th-grader.

Reading Comprehension case 1:
I HEARD that kids ended up getting ahold of this laced weed, mostly from that news report. I've SEEN, first-hand, ghetto folk lacing their shit weed, here it is common knowledge that it happens, hence why it has a nick name.

Reading Comprehension case 2:
I specifically stated in my original rant, the one that caused your obvious grudge against me, that I am a college student, and that my work is in Electronic Engineering, which is also my major.

Curious that Trix called me "Nigel" despite (ostensibly) never having known me as Nigel.

Since you changed your forum name, continuing to call you Your_mom wouldn't make much sense, and since typing out your ridiculous new forum name would annoy me, I decided to call you what everyone else here has been calling you.