REEFER MADNESS!!!!!!

[Doktor Howl]

was there more than one person responsible for interpreting a link between the two threads?

This thread is, in itself, an abomination.

[BadBeast]

"Marijuana monster is stalking the streets, you know what it's after, and you know what it eats,
It gobbles your body, and spits out your mind, if you don't believe me, then you must be blind"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L7pwQOkk8Ao&playnext=1&list=PL8F19AE81F4ED11AC

Evil Reefer Madness is a mind eating Troll..

[LMNO]

RWHN may have taken this all a bit too personally; but at the same time, this thread was like his own private Thermopylae.  Virtually every other poster in this thread was (more or less) opposed to his viewpoints and, by association, his career.  Having to defend and explain your job and opinions for weeks on end is undoubtedly draining, and ultimately disheartening.

In the end, it's not surprising he developed a crushing pun habit.

[BadBeast]

RWHN may have taken this all a bit too personally; but at the same time, this thread was like his own private Thermopylae.  Virtually every other poster in this thread was (more or less) opposed to his viewpoints and, by association, his career.  Having to defend and explain your job and opinions for weeks on end is undoubtedly draining, and ultimately disheartening.

In the end, it's not surprising he developed a crushing pun habit.

I suppose being a Punkie can be every bit as debilitating as being a Junkie.

[East Coast Hustle]

RWHN may have taken this all a bit too personally; but at the same time, this thread was like his own private Thermopylae.  Virtually every other poster in this thread was (more or less) opposed to his viewpoints and, by association, his career.  Having to defend and explain your job and opinions for weeks on end is undoubtedly draining, and ultimately disheartening.

In the end, it's not surprising he developed a crushing pun habit.

Actually, I think that many peoples' point was that he was deliberately leaving information on the table that would very possibly have helped him in his job.

I don't recall ANYONE ITT saying that they thought that it was a good idea for kids to get all fucked up and that trying to prevent that or help those who had already done so wasn't a good thing.

In case I'm not being obvious enough, it kind of chaps my ass to be mischaracterized that way.

[Thurnez Isa]

RWHN may have taken this all a bit too personally; but at the same time, this thread was like his own private Thermopylae.  Virtually every other poster in this thread was (more or less) opposed to his viewpoints and, by association, his career.  Having to defend and explain your job and opinions for weeks on end is undoubtedly draining, and ultimately disheartening.

In the end, it's not surprising he developed a crushing pun habit.

One of the reasons I didn't want to post in this thread, and when I did I felt bad about it. I hope he didn't take it personal and comes back.

[Disco Pickle]

RWHN may have taken this all a bit too personally; but at the same time, this thread was like his own private Thermopylae.  Virtually every other poster in this thread was (more or less) opposed to his viewpoints and, by association, his career.  Having to defend and explain your job and opinions for weeks on end is undoubtedly draining, and ultimately disheartening.

In the end, it's not surprising he developed a crushing pun habit.

One of the reasons I didn't want to post in this thread, and when I did I felt bad about it. I hope he didn't take it personal and comes back.

I had an entire thing I wrote for 5 minutes and decided to copy and paste it to another file and rethink it..

But the jest of it was that RWHN has the right intentions but is possibly standing behind the wrong method for accomplishing them.

The status quo is fucking everyone up and sending the least amount but most at risk people his way when really everyone could stand a little RWHN in their early years if for nothing else than to see some examples of what life long addicts can become when that becomes all they are about.

What he does has more value and potential to help than the existing system were the funds there, but the alternative suggested by most in this thread means what he does would easily be overloaded without a guarantee of further funding.  Just because you take money from one area where it suddenly isn't needed, doesn't mean it will flow to where it is.

I'm going to miss the guy, and I hardly knew ye. 

As the child of addicts who were only pot smokers before some dealer of theirs said "hey, you guys should try this too,"

Don't stop doing what you're doing.

[Doktor Howl]

It is my belief - my opinion - that he has accepted some bad signal, and has built a belief system based on that.

Specifically: That prevention is and must be tied to prohibition.  All of the things he believes that I disagree with stem from that.

[Disco Pickle]

It is my belief - my opinion - that he has accepted some bad signal, and has built a belief system based on that.

Specifically: That prevention is and must be tied to prohibition.  All of the things he believes that I disagree with stem from that.

Then I'd say that it's no different than the belief that legalization will ultimately lead to education that prevents debilitating addiction to everything BUT MJ.

Prohibition is not the answer, but neither is willful ignorance of the fact that the people who become long term pot smokers will eventually come into contact with drugs that have a much higher chance of fucking their lives and families all to shit.  Whether they get involved with them sometimes comes down to a few second decision while they're high on whether they'd like to be more high.

Not always, but sometimes and those sometimes are, with statistics to back it, really fucking debilitating.

[Disco Pickle]

And god damn you Dok.  I always seem to find myself defending a position I would otherwise not because you're arguing against it.

I'm not sure that means I'm becoming more human, or less.

I do know I'm thinking about things differently though, so ok.

ok.

[East Coast Hustle]

It is my belief - my opinion - that he has accepted some bad signal, and has built a belief system based on that.

Specifically: That prevention is and must be tied to prohibition.  All of the things he believes that I disagree with stem from that.

Then I'd say that it's no different than the belief that legalization will ultimately lead to education that prevents debilitating addiction to everything BUT MJ.

Prohibition is not the answer, but neither is willful ignorance of the fact that the people who become long term pot smokers will eventually come into contact with drugs that have a much higher chance of fucking their lives and families all to shit.  Whether they get involved with them sometimes comes down to a few second decision while they're high on whether they'd like to be more high.

Not always, but sometimes and those sometimes are, with statistics to back it, really fucking debilitating.

Balls. I've never been so stoned on pot that I thought that maybe trying heroin would be a good idea. People who make that decision were always going to make that decision.

[Doktor Howl]

I'm not sure that means I'm becoming more human, or less.

It's a primate thing.

[Disco Pickle]

It is my belief - my opinion - that he has accepted some bad signal, and has built a belief system based on that.

Specifically: That prevention is and must be tied to prohibition.  All of the things he believes that I disagree with stem from that.

Then I'd say that it's no different than the belief that legalization will ultimately lead to education that prevents debilitating addiction to everything BUT MJ.

Prohibition is not the answer, but neither is willful ignorance of the fact that the people who become long term pot smokers will eventually come into contact with drugs that have a much higher chance of fucking their lives and families all to shit.  Whether they get involved with them sometimes comes down to a few second decision while they're high on whether they'd like to be more high.

Not always, but sometimes and those sometimes are, with statistics to back it, really fucking debilitating.

Balls. I've never been so stoned on pot that I thought that maybe trying heroin would be a good idea. People who make that decision were always going to make that decision.

Baby steps ECH.  That's the idea behind the label "gateway drug"

It's a little bump of coke to keep you in the party.

It's a line later while everyone else is doing it.

Tell me shit like this doesn't happen and I'll tell you I've seen it happen dozens of times.

Does everyone who does it come out of it becoming a long term customer?  

Nope.  But that's the point, you only need one or two in a small group to begin to build a statistical truth.

Heroin well..  that bitch is different and I have to admit I have only known one who it claimed and he's gone.

Most now are getting hooked on opiate derivatives that are much easier to pass off at a party as "just a little something to help you sleep"

[Anna Mae Bollocks]

"It happens" + "the person was stoned" =/= "It happened because the person was stoned."

[East Coast Hustle]

It is my belief - my opinion - that he has accepted some bad signal, and has built a belief system based on that.

Specifically: That prevention is and must be tied to prohibition.  All of the things he believes that I disagree with stem from that.

Then I'd say that it's no different than the belief that legalization will ultimately lead to education that prevents debilitating addiction to everything BUT MJ.

Prohibition is not the answer, but neither is willful ignorance of the fact that the people who become long term pot smokers will eventually come into contact with drugs that have a much higher chance of fucking their lives and families all to shit.  Whether they get involved with them sometimes comes down to a few second decision while they're high on whether they'd like to be more high.

Not always, but sometimes and those sometimes are, with statistics to back it, really fucking debilitating.

Balls. I've never been so stoned on pot that I thought that maybe trying heroin would be a good idea. People who make that decision were always going to make that decision.

Baby steps ECH.  That's the idea behind the label "gateway drug"

It's a little bump of coke to keep you in the party.

It's a line later while everyone else is doing it.

Tell me shit like this doesn't happen and I'll tell you I've seen it happen dozens of times.

Does everyone who does it come out of it becoming a long term customer? 

Nope.  But that's the point, you only need one or two in a small group to begin to build a statistical truth.

Heroin well..  that bitch is different and I have to admit I have only known one who it claimed and he's gone.

Most now are getting hooked on opiate derivatives that are much easier to pass off at a party as "just a little something to help you sleep"

Yeah, but those steps didn't occur because those people were smoking pot.

Those people were smoking pot because they were working up to their inevitable next step.