I'll just leave this here....

[Triple Zero]

Celexa (time-released methamphetamine)

Wait, what?    Are you sure about that?  

Relax. Celexa aka Citalopram is just your average run-of-the-mill SSRI. No meth.

Haven't used it myself (but do use similar meds), but what I've heard from friends is it works very well. An SSRI basically blocks the reuptake of serotonin (brain-happy-making chemical). This sort of means it doesn't give you fake-happy, it just makes your natural organic happy break down more slowly. A consequence of this sort of very indirect way of influence is that it takes at least 4-6 weeks before any noticeable difference in mood, which is when you'll realize "hey I've actually been feeling pretty okay lately, and things that would normally get me down a lot I seem to bounce back up from more easily". However, if you notice "hey things that should affect me really don't quite affect me as I rationally think I should", that might be an indication to discuss with your doctor lowering the dosage.

Trip,
not a psychiatrist, but has seen quite a few in his life

[Freeky]

Celexa (time-released methamphetamine)

Wait, what?    Are you sure about that?  

Relax. Celexa aka Citalopram is just your average run-of-the-mill SSRI. No meth.

Haven't used it myself (but do use similar meds), but what I've heard from friends is it works very well. An SSRI basically blocks the reuptake of serotonin (brain-happy-making chemical). This sort of means it doesn't give you fake-happy, it just makes your natural organic happy break down more slowly. A consequence of this sort of very indirect way of influence is that it takes at least 4-6 weeks before any noticeable difference in mood, which is when you'll realize "hey I've actually been feeling pretty okay lately, and things that would normally get me down a lot I seem to bounce back up from more easily". However, if you notice "hey things that should affect me really don't quite affect me as I rationally think I should", that might be an indication to discuss with your doctor lowering the dosage.

Trip,
not a psychiatrist, but has seen quite a few in his life

Yeah, that's how it works in theory.  Otherwise, it makes you or .

[AFK]

Because federal law trumps state law.  That's why.  If a school violates Federal Law, aside from some really bad press and probably a loss in Federal funding, they could potentially lose their accreditation.  That will fuck pretty much every graduating senior in the school when they go to apply for scholarships.  If I were the schools I'd be whipping out the 10 foot pole as well.  

Now, that said, if a child had a legitimate certification for Medical MJ (even though I think that is fucked up beyond belief), as a principal I'd probably make sure that if a kid had to go off premise to take their "medicine", that it doesn't impact their studies or standing with teachers.  I just wouldn't sanction the use of it on-premise where I would be exposed to major liabilities.  

[The Good Reverend Roger]

Because federal law trumps state law.  That's why.

Only in matters that the federal government has constitutional authority to legislate/regulate.

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

Celexa (time-released methamphetamine)

Wait, what?    Are you sure about that?  

celexa is nothing like methamphetamine.

Well... the effects anyway i have no knowledge of the science.

I was on it for a while, and it did nothing like what meth is supposed to do.  Also, the wiki articles (yeah, yeah...) don't classify them the same, and the PubMed webpage for Citalopram lists it as an SSRI prescribed for depression and other things, where methamphetamines are prescribed for ADHD and obesity related thing.

Methamphetamine is a specific type of amphetamine, in which the molecule has a methyl group attached to its nitrogen group. Amphetamine is be used to treat ADHD under the brand name Dexedrine. Methylphenidate, which acts similarly to amphetamine but is a phenidate molecule with a methyl group, is also used to treat ADHD under the brand name Ritalin. Methamphetamine is prescribed under the brand name Desoxyn, just much more rarely.

These are three different molecules, and although they are similar in some ways they do have different effects.

[BabylonHoruv]

Because federal law trumps state law.  That's why.  If a school violates Federal Law, aside from some really bad press and probably a loss in Federal funding, they could potentially lose their accreditation.  That will fuck pretty much every graduating senior in the school when they go to apply for scholarships.  If I were the schools I'd be whipping out the 10 foot pole as well.  

Now, that said, if a child had a legitimate certification for Medical MJ (even though I think that is fucked up beyond belief), as a principal I'd probably make sure that if a kid had to go off premise to take their "medicine", that it doesn't impact their studies or standing with teachers.  I just wouldn't sanction the use of it on-premise where I would be exposed to major liabilities.  

The effects of marijuana are milder than the effects of Haldol, and if a kid needs haldol I sincerely hope that the principal makes sure he gets it.

[Freeky]

Celexa (time-released methamphetamine)

Wait, what?    Are you sure about that?  

celexa is nothing like methamphetamine.

Well... the effects anyway i have no knowledge of the science.

I was on it for a while, and it did nothing like what meth is supposed to do.  Also, the wiki articles (yeah, yeah...) don't classify them the same, and the PubMed webpage for Citalopram lists it as an SSRI prescribed for depression and other things, where methamphetamines are prescribed for ADHD and obesity related thing.

Methamphetamine is a specific type of amphetamine, in which the molecule has a methyl group attached to its nitrogen group. Amphetamine is be used to treat ADHD under the brand name Dexedrine. Methylphenidate, which acts similarly to amphetamine but is a phenidate molecule with a methyl group, is also used to treat ADHD under the brand name Ritalin. Methamphetamine is prescribed under the brand name Desoxyn, just much more rarely.

These are three different molecules, and although they are similar in some ways they do have different effects.

Ah.  :themoreyouknow:

[AFK]

Because federal law trumps state law.  That's why.

Only in matters that the federal government has constitutional authority to legislate/regulate.

Yeah, I don't think your average school administrator is going to put too much stock into that.  You'd be putting the school at a mighty big risk to think you are going to beat the Federal Government in court in that debate.  

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

Sorry, Nigel, since the history of corruption and incompetence by the DEA is, apparently, not valid then I wouldn't expect any other history to be accepted as valid either.

You just can't compare things that happened in the past to things that are happening in the present. It's apples and oranges!

But SCIENCE can compare apples and oranges just fine: Apples & Oranges: A comparison

So there's that sorted out, too.

WORLDVIEW... CRUSHED...

Next you'll be saying that we can compare other things that both happen to fall into the same general category! 

[The Good Reverend Roger]

Because federal law trumps state law.  That's why.

Only in matters that the federal government has constitutional authority to legislate/regulate.

Yeah, I don't think your average school administrator is going to put too much stock into that.  You'd be putting the school at a mighty big risk to think you are going to beat the Federal Government in court in that debate.  

LAND OF TEH BRAVE, HOME OF TEH FREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!

[AFK]

Because federal law trumps state law.  That's why.  If a school violates Federal Law, aside from some really bad press and probably a loss in Federal funding, they could potentially lose their accreditation.  That will fuck pretty much every graduating senior in the school when they go to apply for scholarships.  If I were the schools I'd be whipping out the 10 foot pole as well.  

Now, that said, if a child had a legitimate certification for Medical MJ (even though I think that is fucked up beyond belief), as a principal I'd probably make sure that if a kid had to go off premise to take their "medicine", that it doesn't impact their studies or standing with teachers.  I just wouldn't sanction the use of it on-premise where I would be exposed to major liabilities.  

The effects of marijuana are milder than the effects of Haldol, and if a kid needs haldol I sincerely hope that the principal makes sure he gets it.

Uh, no.  See, in this context, it's not about the effects of the drugs, it's about the legal status.  One is an FDA approved medication, one is not.  One is banned under Federal Law one is not.  A principal is not going to get in trouble with the feds if a kid is taking Haldol in school, (unless of course the kid doesn't have a prescription for it), they probably WILL get in trouble with the Feds if the kids has medical MJ because it is a federally banned substance.  

[AFK]

Because federal law trumps state law.  That's why.

Only in matters that the federal government has constitutional authority to legislate/regulate.

Yeah, I don't think your average school administrator is going to put too much stock into that.  You'd be putting the school at a mighty big risk to think you are going to beat the Federal Government in court in that debate.  

LAND OF TEH BRAVE, HOME OF TEH FREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!

Putting bread on the table can be pretty important for people.  Especially when they aren't exactly raking in the dough to begin with. 

[AFK]

This is where people get all worked up and think that RWHN is endorsing folding like a cheap table in face of standing up for freedom, liberty, etc., etc.,

As opposed to, say, explaining the real world that many people live in and why that may make the choice a tiny bit difficult. 

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

Yet another problem solved by lifting the Federal ban. Go figure!

[BabylonHoruv]

Because federal law trumps state law.  That's why.  If a school violates Federal Law, aside from some really bad press and probably a loss in Federal funding, they could potentially lose their accreditation.  That will fuck pretty much every graduating senior in the school when they go to apply for scholarships.  If I were the schools I'd be whipping out the 10 foot pole as well.  

Now, that said, if a child had a legitimate certification for Medical MJ (even though I think that is fucked up beyond belief), as a principal I'd probably make sure that if a kid had to go off premise to take their "medicine", that it doesn't impact their studies or standing with teachers.  I just wouldn't sanction the use of it on-premise where I would be exposed to major liabilities.  

The effects of marijuana are milder than the effects of Haldol, and if a kid needs haldol I sincerely hope that the principal makes sure he gets it.

Uh, no.  See, in this context, it's not about the effects of the drugs, it's about the legal status.  One is an FDA approved medication, one is not.  One is banned under Federal Law one is not.  A principal is not going to get in trouble with the feds if a kid is taking Haldol in school, (unless of course the kid doesn't have a prescription for it), they probably WILL get in trouble with the Feds if the kids has medical MJ because it is a federally banned substance.  

I was addressing the "fucked up beyond belief" part of the statement,  but if my daughter was prescribed medical marijuana and the principal wouldn't let her have it, or even worse seized it,  I'd sue the school district.  Sure he's just covering his butt, but he's covering his butt by putting the health of a student at risk by denying that student doctor recomended medication.

I understand his position, that's WHY I'd sue, because there has to be pressure coming from both directions for a normal person to choose to do the right thing.