Do You Know the Real Islam?

[jorgea]

It's incredibly sad how few people really know the true Islam today.

Islam teaches many things and that includes justice, love, preserving family blood ties, brotherhood, kindness to one's parents, and the list goes on.

Many people in the West confuse the real teachings of Islam with the stupid behavior of extremists who have the audacity to call themselves muslims. Real muslims do not kill innocent people. But these terrorists use any excuse to justify their foolish actions.

Then there are those who use the following terms: "radical islam" or "islamic radicalism,"  or "islamic terrorists" which in reality have nothing to do with Islam.  Why?  Islam does not support any kind of radical, terrorist, or extremist behavior.

Another point that many people in the West confuse: Sunna with Shia sect. The  "muslims" from Iran practice a version of Islam which isn't truly Islam. There was a split of who should have been the first muslim leader after Muhammad's death. Some believed that Muhammad(PBUH) wanted Ali Ibn Abi Talib to become the first Caliph. Ali's supporters became the shia sect.  And the Sunni is the majority of muslims today. The Sunni is the practices of Prophet Muhammad(Peace Be Upon Him) which are the examples that he set forth in order to give future Muslims a clear guidance in how to behave in everyday life. This is the true Islam.

People are confusing politics with religion, and that is why most people today cannot get a truer picture of the real Islam.

[Cain]

Only True Scots practice Real Islam.

[Phox]

It's incredibly sad how few people really know the true Islam today.

Islam teaches many things and that includes justice, love, preserving family blood ties, brotherhood, kindness to one's parents, and the list goes on.

Many people in the West confuse the real teachings of Islam with the stupid behavior of extremists who have the audacity to call themselves muslims. Real muslims do not kill innocent people. But these terrorists use any excuse to justify their foolish actions.

Then there are those who use the following terms: "radical islam" or "islamic radicalism,"  or "islamic terrorists" which in reality have nothing to do with Islam.  Why?  Islam does not support any kind of radical, terrorist, or extremist behavior.

Another point that many people in the West confuse: Sunna with Shia sect. The  "muslims" from Iran practice a version of Islam which isn't truly Islam. There was a split of who should have been the first muslim leader after Muhammad's death. Some believed that Muhammad(PBUH) wanted Ali Ibn Abi Talib to become the first Caliph. Ali's supporters became the shia sect.  And the Sunni is the majority of muslims today. The Sunni is the practices of Prophet Muhammad(Peace Be Upon Him) which are the examples that he set forth in order to give future Muslims a clear guidance in how to behave in everyday life. This is the true Islam.

People are confusing politics with religion, and that is why most people today cannot get a truer picture of the real Islam.

Fair points, but I think there is issue with saying that "Iran practices a version of Islam that isn't truly Islam". That's like saying that Catholics aren't real Christians (or Baptists, or Methodists, or whatever).

And there is a great deal of overlap between politics and religion, but I think there are others here much more suited to addressing that issue than I.

Phox,
Thinking about radical Buddhist extremists.

[Triple Zero]

And the Real Christianity is all about "love thy neighbour" and banishing the bankers.

But Do You Know the Real Discordia (for Realness)?

[Precious Moments Zalgo]

Yes, the version of Islam YOU happen to follow is the One True Islam, and everyone else is doin' it wrong.  

Were you just lucky to be born into a community that practices the right version of Islam, or are you a whole lot smarter than millions of other so-called "Muslims" that you are able to see what they can't?

[East Coast Hustle]

It's incredibly sad how few people really know the true Islam today.

Islam teaches many things and that includes justice, love, preserving family blood ties, brotherhood, kindness to one's parents, and the list goes on.

Many people in the West confuse the real teachings of Islam with the stupid behavior of extremists who have the audacity to call themselves muslims. Real muslims do not kill innocent people. But these terrorists use any excuse to justify their foolish actions.

Then there are those who use the following terms: "radical islam" or "islamic radicalism,"  or "islamic terrorists" which in reality have nothing to do with Islam.  Why?  Islam does not support any kind of radical, terrorist, or extremist behavior.

Another point that many people in the West confuse: Sunna with Shia sect. The  "muslims" from Iran practice a version of Islam which isn't truly Islam. There was a split of who should have been the first muslim leader after Muhammad's death. Some believed that Muhammad(PBUH) wanted Ali Ibn Abi Talib to become the first Caliph. Ali's supporters became the shia sect.  And the Sunni is the majority of muslims today. The Sunni is the practices of Prophet Muhammad(Peace Be Upon Him) which are the examples that he set forth in order to give future Muslims a clear guidance in how to behave in everyday life. This is the true Islam.

People are confusing politics with religion, and that is why most people today cannot get a truer picture of the real Islam.

Fair points, but I think there is issue with saying that "Iran practices a version of Islam that isn't truly Islam". That's like saying that Catholics aren't real Christians (or Baptists, or Methodists, or whatever).

And there is a great deal of overlap between politics and religion, but I think there are others here much more suited to addressing that issue than I.

Phox,
Thinking about radical Buddhist extremists.

Those exist. See: "Southern Thailand".

And while the OP raises many fair points about Islam, it fails to address the fact that ALL religions are fucking retarded superstitious nonsense that have been holding humanity back for, oh, ever.

[Lenin McCarthy]

I disapprove of your use of the term "real Islam". The Quran, just like the Bible, the Principia Discordia and pretty much everything else, can be interpreted and misinterpreted in various ways, leading to completely different ideas about what Islam, Christianity, Discordianism and Freedom™ really is. Everything is real and nothing is real.

That being said, I do agree that a lot of people in the West see Islam as one homogenous entity, and I think that's sad. The Turkish fellow who runs a pizzeria in my town, drinks beer and eats pork claims to be a Muslim. Ayatollah Khamenei claims to be a Muslim. They have about as much in common as a herring and a parrot.

[Golden Applesauce]

I disapprove of your use of the term "real Islam". The Quran, just like the Bible, the Principia Discordia and pretty much everything else, can be interpreted and misinterpreted in various ways, leading to completely different ideas about what Islam, Christianity, Discordianism and Freedom™ really is. Everything is real and nothing is real.

That being said, I do agree that a lot of people in the West see Islam as one homogenous entity, and I think that's sad. The Turkish fellow who runs a pizzeria in my town, drinks beer and eats pork claims to be a Muslim. Ayatollah Khamenei claims to be a Muslim. They have about as much in common as a herring and a parrot.

CHORDATES UNITE!

[Faust]

It's incredibly sad how few people really know the true Islam today.

Islam teaches many things and that includes justice, love, preserving family blood ties, brotherhood, kindness to one's parents, and the list goes on.

Many people in the West confuse the real teachings of Islam with the stupid behavior of extremists who have the audacity to call themselves muslims. Real muslims do not kill innocent people. But these terrorists use any excuse to justify their foolish actions.

Then there are those who use the following terms: "radical islam" or "islamic radicalism,"  or "islamic terrorists" which in reality have nothing to do with Islam.  Why?  Islam does not support any kind of radical, terrorist, or extremist behavior.

Another point that many people in the West confuse: Sunna with Shia sect. The  "muslims" from Iran practice a version of Islam which isn't truly Islam. There was a split of who should have been the first muslim leader after Muhammad's death. Some believed that Muhammad(PBUH) wanted Ali Ibn Abi Talib to become the first Caliph. Ali's supporters became the shia sect.  And the Sunni is the majority of muslims today. The Sunni is the practices of Prophet Muhammad(Peace Be Upon Him) which are the examples that he set forth in order to give future Muslims a clear guidance in how to behave in everyday life. This is the true Islam.

People are confusing politics with religion, and that is why most people today cannot get a truer picture of the real Islam.

I believe in the teachings of Hassan i sabba. The aga khan mohamad and all the others were false prophets.

[Golden Applesauce]

It's incredibly sad how few people really know the true Islam today.

Islam teaches many things and that includes justice, love, preserving family blood ties, brotherhood, kindness to one's parents, and the list goes on.

Many people in the West confuse the real teachings of Islam with the stupid behavior of extremists who have the audacity to call themselves muslims. Real muslims do not kill innocent people. But these terrorists use any excuse to justify their foolish actions.

Then there are those who use the following terms: "radical islam" or "islamic radicalism,"  or "islamic terrorists" which in reality have nothing to do with Islam.  Why?  Islam does not support any kind of radical, terrorist, or extremist behavior.

Another point that many people in the West confuse: Sunna with Shia sect. The  "muslims" from Iran practice a version of Islam which isn't truly Islam. There was a split of who should have been the first muslim leader after Muhammad's death. Some believed that Muhammad(PBUH) wanted Ali Ibn Abi Talib to become the first Caliph. Ali's supporters became the shia sect.  And the Sunni is the majority of muslims today. The Sunni is the practices of Prophet Muhammad(Peace Be Upon Him) which are the examples that he set forth in order to give future Muslims a clear guidance in how to behave in everyday life. This is the true Islam.

People are confusing politics with religion, and that is why most people today cannot get a truer picture of the real Islam.

So, True Muslims are all peace-loving and cool, but Iranian muslims aren't really Muslim.
So unlike real Muslims, the Iranians are stupid, violent, and extreme.  I.e., terrorists.
So when the covert war against Iran goes overt, we'll be fighting an entire country of terrorists, but from a rhetorical position that doesn't alienate our strategic allies in the region ('cuz they're True Muslims, which is surprisingly like a True Christian.)

Gtfo, CIA/Pentagon shill.

[Cain]

There is an irony in declaring Sunni Islam "the true Islam" when

a) all religions are demonstratably false, and
b) Iranian influenced Shiite theology is frequently less reactionary in social and political mores than Sunni Islam as practiced in the Middle East.  The Iranian government may hold fraudulent elections, but the last time I checked, Saudi Arabia, Jordan, Morroco and the Gulf states were monarchies.  Iranian theologians have declared a nuclear weapon's use in war would be a violation of Allah's will, whereas in Pakistan clerics have flocked to support the "Islamic Bomb" and its use against the hated Indians as a moral necessity.

[Cain]

It's incredibly sad how few people really know the true Islam today.

Islam teaches many things and that includes justice, love, preserving family blood ties, brotherhood, kindness to one's parents, and the list goes on.

Many people in the West confuse the real teachings of Islam with the stupid behavior of extremists who have the audacity to call themselves muslims. Real muslims do not kill innocent people. But these terrorists use any excuse to justify their foolish actions.

Then there are those who use the following terms: "radical islam" or "islamic radicalism,"  or "islamic terrorists" which in reality have nothing to do with Islam.  Why?  Islam does not support any kind of radical, terrorist, or extremist behavior.

Another point that many people in the West confuse: Sunna with Shia sect. The  "muslims" from Iran practice a version of Islam which isn't truly Islam. There was a split of who should have been the first muslim leader after Muhammad's death. Some believed that Muhammad(PBUH) wanted Ali Ibn Abi Talib to become the first Caliph. Ali's supporters became the shia sect.  And the Sunni is the majority of muslims today. The Sunni is the practices of Prophet Muhammad(Peace Be Upon Him) which are the examples that he set forth in order to give future Muslims a clear guidance in how to behave in everyday life. This is the true Islam.

People are confusing politics with religion, and that is why most people today cannot get a truer picture of the real Islam.

So, True Muslims are all peace-loving and cool, but Iranian muslims aren't really Muslim.
So unlike real Muslims, the Iranians are stupid, violent, and extreme.  I.e., terrorists.
So when the covert war against Iran goes overt, we'll be fighting an entire country of terrorists, but from a rhetorical position that doesn't alienate our strategic allies in the region ('cuz they're True Muslims, which is surprisingly like a True Christian.)

Gtfo, CIA/Pentagon shill.

I was thinking the same thing, but I wasn't going to say it.  Well, I was kinda building towards it with my post above.

[Faust]

If it is a CIA/Pentagon shill they really deserve to have their budget cut if they can afford to pay morons to post asinine messages on the back ally of the internet.

Though it would be funny if this was one of those weird terrorist recruitment/entrapment things they do. Well, funny in so far as I love hearing about CIA wasted time and resources on pointless endeavours.

[Prelate Diogenes Shandor]

a) all religions are demonstratably false

You mean they're unfalsifiable, which means the opposite of what you said but has identical implications in practice.

Plus, I get the feeling that when you say "all religions" you mean "only mainstream western religions". Some of the more bare bones versions of Buddhism claim little more than that chasing obsessively after wealth will make you miserable. If my university hadn't cut off my JSTOR subscription after I graduated, I could probably find you a paper supporting this claim. And what about Discordianism and SubGenius themselves, which are secured against falsehood (and truth) by a variation of the Liar's Paradox due to the openly deliberate falsehood of their mythologies. And while you could almost certainly disprove the existence of the specific deities of the ancient Greco-Roman pantheon, their standards were so low (there were precedents both for gods who were not truly immortal, as well as for gods whose most significant powers were the result of special tools rather than inherent abilities) that you could probably find somebody in the modern day who meets their qualifications for godhood.

[Faust]

a) all religions are demonstratably false

You mean they're unfalsifiable, which means the opposite of what you said but has identical implications in practice.

Plus, I get the feeling that when you say "all religions" you mean "only mainstream western religions". Some of the more bare bones versions of Buddhism claim little more than that chasing obsessively after wealth will make you miserable. If my university hadn't cut off my JSTOR subscription after I graduated, I could probably find you a paper supporting this claim. And what about Discordianism and SubGenius themselves, which are secured against falsehood (and truth) by a variation of the Liar's Paradox due to the openly deliberate falsehood of their mythologies. And while you could almost certainly disprove the existence of the specific deities of the ancient Greco-Roman pantheon, their standards were so low (there were precedents both for gods who were not truly immortal, as well as for gods whose most significant powers were the result of special tools rather than inherent abilities) that you could probably find somebody in the modern day who meets their qualifications for godhood.

As a firm believer in discordianism. I believe in the absolute falsehood of discordianism