Music Education: HALP

[Triple Zero]

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BZT

[East Coast Hustle]

I have to stop reading this thread. My head feels funny and I think I'm starting to get angry at music.

Why?

My brain is not wired for higher math. And if I actually absorb enough of this to start thinking of music in mathematical terms, it will make music less enjoyable for me because it will feel like listening to homework.

[Freeky]

I have to stop reading this thread. My head feels funny and I think I'm starting to get angry at music.

Why?

My brain is not wired for higher math. And if I actually absorb enough of this to start thinking of music in mathematical terms, it will make music less enjoyable for me because it will feel like listening to homework.

Oh.  I forget math isn't everyone's cup of tea. 

[East Coast Hustle]

Yeah, it kind of sucks because science fucking fascinates me and I can grasp the basic concept of almost anything if it's explained to me properly (and sometimes even if it isn't), but I definitely need some remedial math lessons before I'd be able to do more than understand someone else's concepts.

[Nephew Twiddleton]

This actually makes sense because of the other thread that was pissing you off when theory became involved. Ive listened to your stuff and obviously you know what youre doing but at the same time guitar is one of those instruments where you can know exactly what youre doing without knowing exactly what youre doing. Hence the reason i cant read music. You just dont need to. And when i write something im not thinking oh this is an extended chord of the phrygian mode blah blah blah. Its more of an after thought like oh thats what that is. I can talk theory but if you ask me the theory behind i riff i wrote wait ten minutes for the explanation. On the bright side an accimplished violinist once told me she didnt consider sight readers musicians if they couldnt actually produce original content.

twid
illiterate musician

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

I used to be able to read music but I've never been any kind of musician. I took piano lessons and remember not one fucking thing from it.

[Nephew Twiddleton]

I just cant make sense of notation. Problem is is that i cant think of what the pitch is at the same time as the timing on it is. Its like that quantum heisenberg uncertainty thing. I can observe timing or pitch. Just not both at the same time.

[Nephew Twiddleton]

Not that it matters. Do what you feels. And guitar is more based on shape patterns.

Twid
literally sees music and not in a synesthetic way

[East Coast Hustle]

See, that's how it always worked for me (FYI, though, I wasn't the guitar player in the stuff you heard though I did write most of the riffs). I have an instinctive understanding of what patterns work together on the fretboard, but if I tried to transpose that to, say, piano or oboe (even assuming I could play those instruments competently), I'd be fucked.

[Nephew Twiddleton]

Funny story. In my previous band we were putting out an album and i wanted to write a song. I presented lyrics and guitar riffs. I was told well put it on but youre on your own.

Now i did this with the understanding we would eventually do this live but aparently too much metal came out.

So i had to the whole thing myself raspy vocals and all. Well. I had to pick apart my riffs and write keyboard riffs program the drums and all. The keyboard was the most interesting part. I actually had to think about it and since i was doing extended chords with it play on individual tracks the root the third the fifth and the extended. That led to a happy accident. And i had no fucking clue what i was doing but i understood why it worked after. Still proud of it shitty quality and doing inappropriate grunt vocals notwithstanding.

Twid
realizes he has a song for side project since the postbreak up understanding was "well that was all you"

[Triple Zero]

Hey guys, I made this really sweet awesome kickass graph sort of thing that shows frequency ratios / intervals on the octave:



The notes at the bottom are the equal-ratio 12th-root-of-2 notes. I keep forgetting what is the official name for that tuning, anyone?

Also, is this useful for anyone? or did I just have a lot of fun playing around with funky bent arrow lines in Python/Matplotlib

[AFK]

When it comes to playing and creating music, I'm much more into sounds, textures of sounds, etc.  I can read sheet music pretty well, and have all of the fundamentals down pat.  But, I like just playing and seeing where it goes.  I like melding instruments that you wouldn't normally meld.  Playing instruments that aren't generally considered instruments.  (rubber chicken anyone?) 

Granted this is a lot easier on some instruments compared to others.  Like, you can't really just pick up a clarinet and play it.  You gotta learn how to mouth the thing properly to get anything other than horrible shrieks out of it. 

But then again, you could probably compose a piece of music around those horrible shrieks and make it work. 

[East Coast Hustle]

I HAET YOU ZIPPLETITS.

[Triple Zero]

I HAET YOU ZIPPLETITS.

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