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Shyness vs. gynophobia

Started by Mesozoic Mister Nigel, May 07, 2011, 07:28:12 AM

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Slyph

Isn't serial monogamy just the current, arbitrary form of a sexual relationship, a compromise between our old Christian morality, and our less-old Chatterly-ban-Beatles-first-LP Sexual Lib, care of AIDS?

Mesozoic Mister Nigel

The hell does that have to do with anything?
"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."


Slyph

We're talking sexual morality, we're talking "Sex isn't special if you do it with everyone/too much". I thought it was a worthwhile thing to say, but I'm quite often wrong about that.

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I thought we were talking about shyness and general fear of intimacy.
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Mesozoic Mister Nigel

Quote from: Unqualified on May 10, 2011, 11:31:10 PM
I thought we were talking about shyness and general fear of intimacy.

Thank you. That WAS the idea...
"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."


Freeky

Okay, I have something to add now, after thinking on it.  I'm not sure where I'll be going with this, so feel free to extrapolate.

So last week sometime, Roger's dad took Roger, TGG, Enabler and I out to dinner.  Practically the whole time, starting from the minute Roger's dad walked in the door, to about the time we were finished eating but before the check arrived, I was PARALYZED with terror and anxiety, and I'm not entirely sure over what.  I do know I couldn't meet our waitress' or bussers eyes during that time, and after only managed a few glances.  I made an attempt at contributing to the conversation once, but mostly kept my eyes on my plate.  I didn't want people to get angry(?) with me, so I just tried to stay invisible.  And that was silly and ridiculous.

The end.

Mesozoic Mister Nigel

Quote from: Jenkem and Tomahawks on May 11, 2011, 01:29:21 AM
Okay, I have something to add now, after thinking on it.  I'm not sure where I'll be going with this, so feel free to extrapolate.

So last week sometime, Roger's dad took Roger, TGG, Enabler and I out to dinner.  Practically the whole time, starting from the minute Roger's dad walked in the door, to about the time we were finished eating but before the check arrived, I was PARALYZED with terror and anxiety, and I'm not entirely sure over what.  I do know I couldn't meet our waitress' or bussers eyes during that time, and after only managed a few glances.  I made an attempt at contributing to the conversation once, but mostly kept my eyes on my plate.  I didn't want people to get angry(?) with me, so I just tried to stay invisible.  And that was silly and ridiculous.

The end.

That's the kind of "shyness" I would file under "social anxiety", but the origins and contributing components are probably a lot more important than the label.
"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."


Freeky


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Nephew Twiddleton

I fear groups of college aged women just fresh from the bar and on their way back to whatever campus they hail from on the subway. Mostly because i know theyre going to hurt my ears. But that has more to do with age and blood alcohol level. Gender just adds a shrillness to it that makes it more cringey than if it was a bunch if dumb frat boys.
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Phox

The hell didn't I post in this thread before now? Thanks for the bump, Roger, it was a damn good read. I believe that Nigel's thoughts on this topic have been very interesting, and very on point.

EK WAFFLR

Oooofff. This thread reminds me of my youth (up until I was around 23/24).
I was terribly shy, suffered from social anxiety, and could have panic attacks when in large groups. Women absolutely horrified me beyond belief.

Somehow, getting together with a psychotically jealous, notoriously unfaithful girl who managed to stab me with a bread knife for not being allowed to read a text message cured that, somewhat.
Some of it still lingers on, but I manage to at least talk to women now.

As for the misogyny, I don't think I've ever fallen into that trap, even though I am prone to the odd "git to da kitchen womman" joke.


The irony? My best friends have ALWAYS been females.

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Quote from: Waffle Iron on January 31, 2012, 08:42:39 AM
Somehow, getting together with a psychotically jealous, notoriously unfaithful girl who managed to stab me with a bread knife for not being allowed to read a text message cured that, somewhat.

This made you LESS nervous around women?   :horrormirth:
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I like the Luna one. She is a good one.

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Quote from: Waffle Iron on January 31, 2012, 08:42:39 AM
Somehow, getting together with a psychotically jealous, notoriously unfaithful girl who managed to stab me with a bread knife for not being allowed to read a text message cured that, somewhat.

This made you LESS nervous around women?   :horrormirth:

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