Kicked Out of Yet Another Psychic Meetup. I Feel Unloved.

[navkat]

I consider myself an "empath." This is actually a mental illness more than anything else but it is, at least, a decent and socially useful mental illness...perhaps from attending too many raves and past use of that Substance Who Shall Not Be Named.

In addition to my many struggles with ADD, possible mild female Asperger's (look it up. It presents differently in females) and a host of other problems that occur when you take a child who tests with a 159 IQ  and beat the living shit out of her from the age of 4 or 5, I have some dissociative disorders as well...did a lot of self-destructive things.

I went to a lot of therapy and dealt with a lot of my issues but I didn't find healthier ways to cope until I found the Rave.

my "Empath" tendencies are a better, healthier way of coping with dissociation. When I'm nervous or uncomfortable in social situations, when I'm overwhelmed, threatened or feel like "they're all gonna laugh at me," I "hone in" on other people. I become hyper-aware of the vibe in a room and try to "tune the radio" so-to-speak into people's euphoria. There are times when people are being ugly that I find I either have to remove myself from the situation or make it better. It's not fucking magic, it's overcoming an odd juxtaposition between Asperger's (being oblivious to people's true intent), paranoia and Borderline Personality Disorder.

This isn't some Deanna Troi bullshit that everyone can see, either; there are very few people who have ever been able to "pick up" when this is happening to me and pull me back into feeling now and when they do, I become almost indelibly attached to them. It feels like I'm less alone in my head and it's heartwrenching when they exit my life.

Anyone who treats that shit like some happy magic is either lying or needs a therapist.

[Juana]

that's hilarious ... do you know what exactly set them off? Did they feel like they were being mocked, or were they just intimidated by a wizard of your level? How did the cops get involved?

I've been to one of them psychic things, back when I lived in Albany. There's this place called the Triangle center? Something like that. This dude in fatigues, wolf shirt, and ponytail kept giving me the evil eye. He was clearly threatened by Eris' presence. The more I tried to see what was up with him, the more cold and territorial he got. Clearly putting on the Alpha show for the females. It was a totally disgusting episode.

The problem with those kinds of gatherings is that they're all open minded and accepting until you suggest that some of it might, you know, be bullshit.

I think it was the howling and gibbering that got them going.  I was completely around the bend on Holy Cactus™, and apparently they found the spectacle to be More Psychic Fun Than They Really Wanted.

I mean, they're not there for Holiness™, or even some sort of supernatural shit, right?  The men are there to get some fat smelly Pagan goodness, and the women are there to out-psychic each other.

I was there to tell them about THE MIGHTY ARIZONA COCKROACH, and how the place was filling up with bored Aztec gods and 70s gameshow hosts or some such shit.  This startled the herd.  And apparently, you can't have a cockroach as your power spirit animal totem thingie.  There's some kind of rule.

Beautiful!

The problem with those kinds of gatherings is that they're all open minded and accepting until you suggest that some of it might, you know, be bullshit.

Yes. This.

What I like to do with Reiki people is explain them that if it's universal energy then, uh, everything should be included. Then I start listing things that exist that are also horrible until they stop talking to me forever. They're so god damned NICE until then.

A lot of non-denominational christian I've met are the same way.

I may need to steal that from you.

[LMNO]

And apparently, you can't have a cockroach as your power spirit animal totem thingie.  There's some kind of rule.

This is why hippies make St Gulik cry.

[The Good Reverend Roger]

I consider myself an "empath." This is actually a mental illness more than anything else but it is, at least, a decent and socially useful mental illness...perhaps from attending too many raves and past use of that Substance Who Shall Not Be Named.

Not really the point, here.  While I have seen people who get "over-written" with other peoples' emotions, it's hardly "psychic" (as you say).

The point was, I went in to show them HOLINESS™, and the bastards suddenly decided the regular old real world was just fine, thank you very much here's your hat what's your hurry get out before I call the cops you fucking freak *slam* holy shit, I didn't know we HAD bikers in this town.

[The Good Reverend Roger]

And apparently, you can't have a cockroach as your power spirit animal totem thingie.  There's some kind of rule.

This is why hippies make St Gulik cry.

And this is why we need to JIHAD in the name of St Gulik.  THE STREETS WILL RUN WITH THE BLOOD OF THE NONBELIEVER!  Or the puke.  One or the other.

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

Next time Nigel comes down here, we're doing gallery openings my way.

[Cramulus]

The point was, I went in to show them HOLINESS™, and the bastards suddenly decided the regular old real world was just fine, thank you very much here's your hat what's your hurry get out before I call the cops you fucking freak *slam* holy shit, I didn't know we HAD bikers in this town.

they have no sense of adventure 

leave it to the modern neo-pagan community to not even recognize a real shamanic trance!

Do they have a website for this event thing? We should try to petition them to give you a microphone at the next one. I bet if we presented it like you're this western guru and we're your followers, they wouldn't even blink until you got up on stage. Then it would be "Oh fuck, not this guy again"

[The Good Reverend Roger]

Next time Nigel comes down here, we're doing gallery openings my way.

SOME of our openings are good.  I cheerfully dress up & behave myself.

But MOST of them are BAD.  They need me, and they need you.  It's the only way they'll get better.

[The Good Reverend Roger]

The point was, I went in to show them HOLINESS™, and the bastards suddenly decided the regular old real world was just fine, thank you very much here's your hat what's your hurry get out before I call the cops you fucking freak *slam* holy shit, I didn't know we HAD bikers in this town.

they have no sense of adventure 

leave it to the modern neo-pagan community to not even recognize a real shamanic trance!

Do they have a website for this event thing? We should try to petition them to give you a microphone at the next one. I bet if we presented it like you're this western guru and we're your followers, they wouldn't even blink until you got up on stage. Then it would be "Oh fuck, not this guy again"

Let me check.  Some of these groups are year round, some are just pals who rent a space during the Gem Show, once a year...Sort of like our meetups, but with more bad noise & drama.

[navkat]

I consider myself an "empath." This is actually a mental illness more than anything else but it is, at least, a decent and socially useful mental illness...perhaps from attending too many raves and past use of that Substance Who Shall Not Be Named.

Not really the point, here.  While I have seen people who get "over-written" with other peoples' emotions, it's hardly "psychic" (as you say).

The point was, I went in to show them HOLINESS™, and the bastards suddenly decided the regular old real world was just fine, thank you very much here's your hat what's your hurry get out before I call the cops you fucking freak *slam* holy shit, I didn't know we HAD bikers in this town.

That's what I'm saying in a roundabout, self-perspective sort of way. They're LYING and they know it. That's why they kicked your shit out. That's why these mystics get all bunged-up when someone comes in and trolls them or pushes the Holiness past their own bullshit comfort level.

I knew a guy who told me (deadpan) that he could cure my allergies by using some form of psychokinetic energy to change the ionic charge on the ceiling and floor and "suck" all the particulae from the air onto a surface. He also told me he could "burst evil energies" with his mind by visualizing them.

When another kook told him he was able to detect government radio frequencies in the air the way dogs can detect barometric pressure, he was actually sort of repulsed by that bullshit story, even though it was sorta more feasible in a sense than his own brand of nonsense.

[Cramulus]

the psychic fair has Celebrity Sex Psychics??! THAT'S MY DREAM JOB! MAYBE I CAN GET AN INTERNSHIP!

[The Good Reverend Roger]

I knew a guy who told me (deadpan) that he could cure my allergies by using some form of psychokinetic energy to change the ionic charge on the ceiling and floor and "suck" all the particulae from the air onto a surface. He also told me he could "burst evil energies" with his mind by visualizing them.

Question for SCIENCE:  Did that make your panties want to fly off?

[P3nT4gR4m]

There's two possibilities here that have to be taken into consideration:

1) It's all shite. It's a bunch of nutjobs running around making crap up and being deluded and delusional.

2) Spirits from the other side are communicating with teh living

Yeah, I know but, given lack of conclusive evidence and discounting logic and probability (for obvious reasons) here's why I'm siding with option 2. Firstly lets look at the kind of bastard who, upon finding themselves dead and offered life everlasting, would chose to spend their eternity, not in etherial paradise but in dingy church halls, hanging out with a bunch of sad act hippy rejects? I'll tell you the type right now - cunts like me.

Now ask yourself this - what possible motivation could cunts like me have for choosing this path? Altruism? Nostalgia? Passing on messages from dead family members? Mercilessly fucking with their dumb heads?

Srsly - spirits are for real - I have far too many post-mortem plans to believe otherwise.

[navkat]

I knew a guy who told me (deadpan) that he could cure my allergies by using some form of psychokinetic energy to change the ionic charge on the ceiling and floor and "suck" all the particulae from the air onto a surface. He also told me he could "burst evil energies" with his mind by visualizing them.

Question for SCIENCE:  Did that make your panties want to fly off?

Hah! Maybe. I was pretty young (17 or so). I remember being pretty intrigued with people--all people...any people who gave me any sort of attention because I just didn't understand them at all as a whole. I had more than a few boyfriends who dressed goth, participated in some a la carte version of Wicca/paganism and called me "m'lady."

[The Good Reverend Roger]

I knew a guy who told me (deadpan) that he could cure my allergies by using some form of psychokinetic energy to change the ionic charge on the ceiling and floor and "suck" all the particulae from the air onto a surface. He also told me he could "burst evil energies" with his mind by visualizing them.

Question for SCIENCE:  Did that make your panties want to fly off?

Hah! Maybe. I was pretty young (17 or so). I remember being pretty intrigued with people--all people...any people who gave me any sort of attention because I just didn't understand them at all as a whole. I had more than a few boyfriends who dressed goth, participated in some a la carte version of Wicca/paganism and called me "m'lady."