On the rise and fall of empires (or, "What goes up must come down")

[Epimetheus]

I learn a lot of new information and perspective from Cain, Roger, et al. I don't want to pretend their writings are in any way superfluous; in fact, their writings have come to symbolize PD to me. I just don't find other kinds of conversations to be less valuable in any way. Just different in form, function, application, effect, and purpose.
We can look at the Orange Eating Contest and say "nothing productive came of it", but that doesn't get to the heart of why we love it. Different people have fun and learn in different ways.

[Anna Mae Bollocks]

I learn a lot of new information and perspective from Cain, Roger, et al. I don't want to pretend their writings are in any way superfluous; in fact, their writings have come to symbolize PD to me. I just don't find other kinds of conversations to be less valuable in any way. Just different in form, function, application, effect, and purpose.
We can look at the Orange Eating Contest and say "nothing productive came of it", but that doesn't get to the heart of why we love it. Different people have fun and learn in different ways.

UHHHHHHH.....

Never mind.

Damn, Ep. 

[AFK]

I learn a lot of new information and perspective from Cain, Roger, et al. I don't want to pretend their writings are in any way superfluous; in fact, their writings have come to symbolize PD to me. I just don't find other kinds of conversations to be less valuable in any way. Just different in form, function, application, effect, and purpose.
We can look at the Orange Eating Contest and say "nothing productive came of it", but that doesn't get to the heart of why we love it. Different people have fun and learn in different ways.

I dunno, speaking as one of the more active participants in the drug threads (mostly because I have to have convos with like 10 different people, I don't know if there is that much value to them.  At least mot this last one or the one before it.  The first ones were good and I had folks tell me that the discussions actually altered their paradims a bit.  I think that's cool.  But when it's just shouting, I dunno if it really adds much.

[Epimetheus]

By 'less valuable' I don't mean "That conversation doesn't help me, so I'll step out," but rather "That conversation doesn't help, PERIOD, so anyone who talks in it is wasting their time." I certainly don't go into such threads necessarily to CHANGE MINDS. Just to learn, and have a conversation, bounce ideas back and forth, and laugh too. And if I call that productive, then for me, the gonads thread was productive enough.

[Anna Mae Bollocks]

Roger and Cain's stuff is valuable because it's thought provoking.
The only thought that other thread has been provoking for the last 100+ pages is "Fuck you, RWHN, and everything you stand for."

[Epimetheus]

Roger and Cain's stuff is valuable because it's thought provoking.
The only thought that other thread has been provoking for the last 100+ pages is "Fuck you, RWHN, and everything you stand for."

That's a bummer, if that's what you took from it.
I learned quite a bit from the bits of it that were actual debate, and I also took enjoyment from the name-calling and Glittersnatch's posts and all of that dark-sided stuff.
So 

[AFK]

By 'less valuable' I don't mean "That conversation doesn't help me, so I'll step out," but rather "That conversation doesn't help, PERIOD, so anyone who talks in it is wasting their time." I certainly don't go into such threads necessarily to CHANGE MINDS. Just to learn, and have a conversation, bounce ideas back and forth, and laugh too. And if I call that productive, then for me, the gonads thread was productive enough.

On, well, then in that case it was VERY productive for me too.   

[Anna Mae Bollocks]

Roger and Cain's stuff is valuable because it's thought provoking.
The only thought that other thread has been provoking for the last 100+ pages is "Fuck you, RWHN, and everything you stand for."

That's a bummer, if that's what you took from it.
I learned quite a bit from the bits of it that were actual debate, and I also took enjoyment from the name-calling and Glittersnatch's posts and all of that dark-sided stuff.
So 

I learned from some of the things posted there, but it was preaching to the choir stuff. Like the links Nigel posted, which were worth their weight in gold but basically reinforced what I knew already.

The only epiphany I got from the other side was "Holy FUCK, these prohibitionists are even more fucked up than I thought."

[The Good Reverend Roger]

Let's not start this mishegoss up again, okay?

[Anna Mae Bollocks]

Let's not start this mishegoss up again, okay?

'K.

And apologies, My coping mechanisms all involve distraction of some kind, and I'm kind of short on distractions right now.

[Anna Mae Bollocks]

Hey, is it too much to ask that I want to join in good conversation with cool people? You're all cool people, so lets have some cool conversations.

We can't.  At least not with you.  Because you're leaving us for Zuckerberg.   

I posted some hari kari and people jumping off of buildings gif links in my photo comments at fb awhile ago.

Nobody noticed.

EVERYBODY 'LIKES' MY WALL PHOTOS!

EVERYBODY SHARED MY LINKS!

LOL!

"Are you ok?" would have been nice.

It's not that kind of place, though.

Don't get to liking it there too much, Kai. Just sayin'.

[East Coast Hustle]

I learn a lot of new information and perspective from Cain, Roger, et al. I don't want to pretend their writings are in any way superfluous; in fact, their writings have come to symbolize PD to me. I just don't find other kinds of conversations to be less valuable in any way. Just different in form, function, application, effect, and purpose.
We can look at the Orange Eating Contest and say "nothing productive came of it", but that doesn't get to the heart of why we love it. Different people have fun and learn in different ways.

Au contraire, the Orange Eating Contest was VERY productive, in a tangible and measurable way.

[East Coast Hustle]

That said, I still think you fuckers are pussies who don't have the sacks for a GRAPE EATING CONTEST.

[Freeky]

I bought like ten pounds of grapes and thought of you last month, actually.

[00.dusk]

TGRR I MAED YUO SUMTHIN

Consider it an apology for the shitty time I gave you when I was here before, and for joining in the DRUGZ N DRUGZ N DRUGZ