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Started by Pinprop, June 21, 2012, 09:05:29 AM

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Pinprop

Hello. I recall that there are a few people here who used to be into that stuff, and I'd like to know why you stopped, and how you explain the weird stuff that you have probably experienced when invoking and evoking spirits. By that I mean objects moving around, seeing spirits in crystal ball or formed out of incense smoke, voices, powerful emotions etc. I suppose you believe they were hallucinations? Well so do I, except perhaps the objects that move about (though I'm not ruling it out). But aren't they interesting and crazy enough to continue evoking anyway? I don't understand why you would stop hypnotizing yourself for such an emotional, phantasmagorical experience. I have also found it useful for quite dramatically re-wiring my brain, but there are plenty of other ways to do that anyway, and as for affecting outer reality, well I'm not sure that's possible, it's never worked for me, so I'm just going to leave the question here: Why, from the point of view of entertainment, did you stop evoking? Did you get bored? Were you never successful?

P3nT4gR4m

I gave up cos I got scared of it. This one time I turned my best friend into a grenade launcher and I realised I had no control over it and it would end up controlling me so I went and saw a priest and he exorcised me and my head spun around and green spew came out me and everything and then I was okay and everyone lived happily ever after except for my friend who was used to provide suppressing fire when they stormed Saddam's imperial palace.

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Placid Dingo

It seems the question is; when you get pleasure out of something that you learn is make believe, why give it up? is that about it?
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Strikes me the question is more about  - even with totally obvious troll in a forum full of totally expert trolls, can you get them all screaming at each other, ten minutes after they've just finished screaming at each other over other totally obvious troll topic.

Pretty sure the answer is yes, BTW but I live in hope  :kingmeh:

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Pinprop

Yes, but I don't think make believe quite covers it. You cause hallucinations of the kind that can only otherwise be caused by large doses of very dangerous deliriants. Such as things flying off the altar, which you then pick up and put back. And hearing voices, and sensations. It's amazing.

AFK

I gave it up when I accidentally an Elephant in my pance.


My wife was not amused.
Cynicism is a blank check for failure.

Placid Dingo

If that's with chemicals, well, there's pretty typical reasons to gove it up.


If it's WITHOUT chemicals and you're seeing shit flying around, I'm asimg you're doing something wrong to your body, and there's pretty simple reasons to give it up.

If I started seeing magic happen I would either

- believe in it and not give it up.
- freak the fuck out and try to work put what was going on and is my brain going to be ok?
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Placid Dingo

Quote from: The Bad Reverend What's-His-Name! on June 21, 2012, 11:50:46 AM
I gave it up when I accidentally an Elephant in my pance.


My wife was not amused.

But how did the elephant in your pance?
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AFK

Not as gently as I would have hoped.
Cynicism is a blank check for failure.

Bebek Sincap Ratatosk

On the off chance that its not a troll...

For awhile I was a regular practitioner of 'magic'. I had some very interesting experiments and experiences. I also found it useful for rewiring bits of my brain.

I didn't continue simply because doing the same thing, placing yourself in one specific mindset/model/belief system is (IMO) a bad idea. When I find a situation where I think magic would be useful, I still use it. I don't however, use it as a regular or daily practice.
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Pinprop

Quote from: Bebek Sincap Ratatosk on June 21, 2012, 12:00:04 PM
On the off chance that its not a troll...

For awhile I was a regular practitioner of 'magic'. I had some very interesting experiments and experiences. I also found it useful for rewiring bits of my brain.

I didn't continue simply because doing the same thing, placing yourself in one specific mindset/model/belief system is (IMO) a bad idea. When I find a situation where I think magic would be useful, I still use it. I don't however, use it as a regular or daily practice.

Okay but did you do anything reality-shattering, like summoning demons?

00.dusk

Quote from: Pinprop on June 21, 2012, 12:33:15 PM
Quote from: Bebek Sincap Ratatosk on June 21, 2012, 12:00:04 PM
On the off chance that its not a troll...

For awhile I was a regular practitioner of 'magic'. I had some very interesting experiments and experiences. I also found it useful for rewiring bits of my brain.

I didn't continue simply because doing the same thing, placing yourself in one specific mindset/model/belief system is (IMO) a bad idea. When I find a situation where I think magic would be useful, I still use it. I don't however, use it as a regular or daily practice.

Okay but did you do anything reality-shattering, like summoning demons?

I had a few unscheduled reality excursions. I blame all the ghost chilis and the loose bathroom fixtures.

Nephew Twiddleton

Quote from: Pinprop on June 21, 2012, 12:33:15 PM
Quote from: Bebek Sincap Ratatosk on June 21, 2012, 12:00:04 PM
On the off chance that its not a troll...

For awhile I was a regular practitioner of 'magic'. I had some very interesting experiments and experiences. I also found it useful for rewiring bits of my brain.

I didn't continue simply because doing the same thing, placing yourself in one specific mindset/model/belief system is (IMO) a bad idea. When I find a situation where I think magic would be useful, I still use it. I don't however, use it as a regular or daily practice.

Okay but did you do anything reality-shattering, like summoning demons?

There was this one time I summoned Astaroth but he was offended by MY breath and decided to leave. It was too bad, because I really could use some hidden treasure for the strip club.
Strange and Terrible Organ Laminator of Yesterday's Heavy Scene
Sentence or sentence fragment pending

Soy El Vaquero Peludo de Oro

TIM AM I, PRIMARY OF THE EXTRA-ATMOSPHERIC SIMIANS