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Don't Get Mad At Me, I'm Just Building The Dream

Started by The Good Reverend Roger, August 13, 2012, 04:59:14 PM

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The Good Reverend Roger

*sprunnnng*

That's the noise an M16 magazine makes when you push a speed-loader full of bullets into it.  You have to be careful when you do it, or the edge of the bastard will cut your right thumb.  You also have to know that you only put 28 rounds in a 30 round magazine, because if you put all 30 rounds in, the spring at the bottom will be under too much tension, and you'll "double feed" (two rounds will go into the chamber at once, causing an embarrassing and potentially fatal malfunction).  The last 5 rounds are tracers, if you can get them, so you'll know when you have to change magazines.

Call it Building The Dream.

The M16 has a bad reputation, because of the problems the first version had with jamming.  It was said that in Vietnam, our soldiers would trade up for the AK47, the weapon of the opposing side.  I don't say "enemy", because the Viet Cong and the NVA weren't the enemy, they were just the opposing side.  The enemy was a guy named Robert MacNamara, and millions and millions of "right-thinking, good Americans" who were brave as hell from the safety of their living rooms.

*sprung*

Years later, we had a number of small incidents...Trade shows, really ("Buy our shit, or we'll have the next trade show at your house").  Again, the enemy wasn't the guy in front of you, he was just some poor dogface just like you.  Just another grunt...And you can believe he knew who the enemy was.  In Panama, the enemy was Manuel Noriega, who was a wholly-owned creature of the CIA.  In Desert Storm, it was Saddam Hussien, again a creation of the American government.  These were the enemy for our opposition. 

Don't blame us.  We were just Building The Dream.

Grunts know, you see.  They aren't fooled by pretty speeches or jingoistic shit spewing forth from the TV.  They know that the people trying to get them killed are sitting in their air conditioned homes back in the USA.  Or sitting in the president's office in Baghdad.  Or doing monster lines of coke in an office in Panama City.  The point is, the person trying to get you killed is almost always in your own country.  Sort of like the Iraq war and the fucked up situation in Afbagistan.  No military objective, because a military mission might imply that there will be an end to the conflict at some point.

*sprung*

You see, there are only 3 real military objectives...First, get Those Bastards out of our shit.  Second, take THEIR shit.  Third, go break their shit.  Things like "installing democracy" are political objectives.  Soldiers can't do that, because it is not their purpose.  They haven't been trained for it.  All a soldier can do is buy time for the politicians to get what THEY want.  Thing is, what THEY want isn't the same as what's right or even right for the country.  It's really more of what's right for the people who own the politicians...And it makes no difference what nation you're in, because they're all the same, everywhere you go.

They're all just Building The Dream.

And let's not look at what The Dream We Built has brought you, the people who insisted that we build it.  No, no, let's NOT look at THAT too closely, because the stark reality that you are also victims of The Enemy will directly conflict with what the TV and your parents and your friends and your preacher have told you your whole life.  You might even get a little angry that NOTHING is true and EVERYTHING is permitted, and an angry population is an unproductive population, and we just can't have THAT, can we?  Occupy was disruptive enough, and it made Good Americans nervous.  Imagine what the neighbors would say if a bunch of pissed off veterans decided to Build Their Own Dream for once.   Why, that would be downright treasonous.

*sprung*
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

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I like the Luna one. She is a good one.

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"Stop talking to yourself.  You don't like you any better than anyone else who knows you."

The Good Reverend Roger

Quote from: Luna on August 13, 2012, 05:31:36 PM
Chill.  Right down my spine.

The difference between 23 year old Roger and 43 year old Roger isn't THAT big.  Both Rogers knew what was happening.  The only difference is that the 23 year old Roger didn't give a shit what it meant.  None of us did.  We were kids, and kids will do any damn dangerous thing that they can possibly do, especially if it fits the Mighty Hunter/Warrior tribal position.  Gets you laid, you know.

And that's how you get The Dream you demanded.
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

tyrannosaurus vex

We are the enemy. So it shouldn't come as too much of a surprise when the tanks and stormtroopers start walking down Main Street right here in little old innocent America.

Of course, we'll still be surprised. And outraged, at least until our outrage is soothed with a patriotic jingle or a bullet, whichever flies quickest.
Evil and Unfeeling Arse-Flenser From The City of the Damned.

The Good Reverend Roger

Quote from: v3x on August 13, 2012, 05:47:17 PM
We are the enemy. So it shouldn't come as too much of a surprise when the tanks and stormtroopers start walking down Main Street right here in little old innocent America.

Of course, we'll still be surprised. And outraged, at least until our outrage is soothed with a patriotic jingle or a bullet, whichever flies quickest.

It's the only way to be safe.
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

tyrannosaurus vex

I know I've got a few decidedly Tururust-sounding voices in my head. If it the only way to clear my thinking and make us all safe is a hot lead enema to the neocortex, then that's the only way.
Evil and Unfeeling Arse-Flenser From The City of the Damned.

P3nT4gR4m

Quote from: Dirty Old Uncle Roger on August 13, 2012, 05:34:25 PM
Quote from: Luna on August 13, 2012, 05:31:36 PM
Chill.  Right down my spine.

The difference between 23 year old Roger and 43 year old Roger isn't THAT big.  Both Rogers knew what was happening.  The only difference is that the 23 year old Roger didn't give a shit what it meant.  None of us did.  We were kids, and kids will do any damn dangerous thing that they can possibly do, especially if it fits the Mighty Hunter/Warrior tribal position.  Gets you laid, you know.

And that's how you get The Dream you demanded.

You seem to have been the opposite of me. When I was 23 I cared all too deeply about the injustice of the world and I marched and postered and met up with likeminded people and we bemoaned the fact that the enemy was just too big to fight.

Nowadays I just think the whole thing is fucking hilarious, in a - not actually that funny but can't help smirking anyway - kinda way.

I'm up to my arse in Brexit Numpties, but I want more.  Target-rich environments are the new sexy.
Not actually a meat product.
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walking the fine line line between genius and batshit fucking crazy

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The Good Reverend Roger

Quote from: P3nT4gR4m on August 13, 2012, 06:55:58 PM
Quote from: Dirty Old Uncle Roger on August 13, 2012, 05:34:25 PM
Quote from: Luna on August 13, 2012, 05:31:36 PM
Chill.  Right down my spine.

The difference between 23 year old Roger and 43 year old Roger isn't THAT big.  Both Rogers knew what was happening.  The only difference is that the 23 year old Roger didn't give a shit what it meant.  None of us did.  We were kids, and kids will do any damn dangerous thing that they can possibly do, especially if it fits the Mighty Hunter/Warrior tribal position.  Gets you laid, you know.

And that's how you get The Dream you demanded.

You seem to have been the opposite of me. When I was 23 I cared all too deeply about the injustice of the world and I marched and postered and met up with likeminded people and we bemoaned the fact that the enemy was just too big to fight.

Nowadays I just think the whole thing is fucking hilarious, in a - not actually that funny but can't help smirking anyway - kinda way.

Thing is, America has one HELL of a warrior mythology.  It's almost impossible to not buy into it at one level or another, when you're a 17 year old kid who is convinced of his own immortality.

And I think it's hilarious, too.  That's why I laugh the way I do, even if it makes the neighbors call the cops.
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

P3nT4gR4m

Quote from: Dirty Old Uncle Roger on August 13, 2012, 06:58:06 PM
Quote from: P3nT4gR4m on August 13, 2012, 06:55:58 PM
Quote from: Dirty Old Uncle Roger on August 13, 2012, 05:34:25 PM
Quote from: Luna on August 13, 2012, 05:31:36 PM
Chill.  Right down my spine.

The difference between 23 year old Roger and 43 year old Roger isn't THAT big.  Both Rogers knew what was happening.  The only difference is that the 23 year old Roger didn't give a shit what it meant.  None of us did.  We were kids, and kids will do any damn dangerous thing that they can possibly do, especially if it fits the Mighty Hunter/Warrior tribal position.  Gets you laid, you know.

And that's how you get The Dream you demanded.

You seem to have been the opposite of me. When I was 23 I cared all too deeply about the injustice of the world and I marched and postered and met up with likeminded people and we bemoaned the fact that the enemy was just too big to fight.

Nowadays I just think the whole thing is fucking hilarious, in a - not actually that funny but can't help smirking anyway - kinda way.

Thing is, America has one HELL of a warrior mythology.  It's almost impossible to not buy into it at one level or another, when you're a 17 year old kid who is convinced of his own immortality.

And I think it's hilarious, too.  That's why I laugh the way I do, even if it makes the neighbors call the cops.

Yeah, I get that. That's one major difference between our cultures. Scotland is a subjugated nation, from hundreds of years ago. We're much more interested in fighting amongst ourselves than marching under a flag.

I'm up to my arse in Brexit Numpties, but I want more.  Target-rich environments are the new sexy.
Not actually a meat product.
Ass-Kicking & Foot-Stomping Ancient Master of SHIT FUCK FUCK FUCK
Awful and Bent Behemothic Results of Last Night's Painful Squat.
High Altitude Haggis-Filled Sex Bucket From Beyond Time and Space.
Internet Monkey Person of Filthy and Immoral Pygmy-Porn Wart Contagion
Octomom Auxillary Heat Exchanger Repairman
walking the fine line line between genius and batshit fucking crazy

"computation is a pattern in the spacetime arrangement of particles, and it's not the particles but the pattern that really matters! Matter doesn't matter." -- Max Tegmark

Anna Mae Bollocks

Reading...yes, very true, yes, exactly...and then this line:

Quote from: Dirty Old Uncle Roger on August 13, 2012, 04:59:14 PM
Imagine what the neighbors would say if a bunch of pissed off veterans decided to Build Their Own Dream for once.

Holy fuck. It was like something went through me.

*sprunnnnng*
Scantily-Clad Inspector of Gigantic and Unnecessary Cashews, Texas Division

Anna Mae Bollocks

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Quote from: Dirty Old Uncle Roger on August 13, 2012, 06:58:06 PM
Quote from: P3nT4gR4m on August 13, 2012, 06:55:58 PM
Quote from: Dirty Old Uncle Roger on August 13, 2012, 05:34:25 PM
Quote from: Luna on August 13, 2012, 05:31:36 PM
Chill.  Right down my spine.

The difference between 23 year old Roger and 43 year old Roger isn't THAT big.  Both Rogers knew what was happening.  The only difference is that the 23 year old Roger didn't give a shit what it meant.  None of us did.  We were kids, and kids will do any damn dangerous thing that they can possibly do, especially if it fits the Mighty Hunter/Warrior tribal position.  Gets you laid, you know.

And that's how you get The Dream you demanded.

You seem to have been the opposite of me. When I was 23 I cared all too deeply about the injustice of the world and I marched and postered and met up with likeminded people and we bemoaned the fact that the enemy was just too big to fight.

Nowadays I just think the whole thing is fucking hilarious, in a - not actually that funny but can't help smirking anyway - kinda way.

Thing is, America has one HELL of a warrior mythology.  It's almost impossible to not buy into it at one level or another, when you're a 17 year old kid who is convinced of his own immortality.

And I think it's hilarious, too.  That's why I laugh the way I do, even if it makes the neighbors call the cops.

It does. I remember the kids after 9-11 wanting to go to Afghanistan and kill Muslims. So they sent 'em to Iraq. And they went, because it was that or work in the produce section of Handy Andy for the rest of their lives.

Everybody wants to be the guys raising the flag at Iwo Jima. Fat lot of good it did Ira Hayes.
Scantily-Clad Inspector of Gigantic and Unnecessary Cashews, Texas Division

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And right on cue there was yet another shooting today, this time at Texas A&M:

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0812/79677.html

It's starting to remind me of the late 90's, when bombings and shooting sprees were all the rage.

*sprung*

P E R   A S P E R A   A D   A S T R A

Juana

Most of my early memories are either cartoons or news stories about those bombings and shootings.

Quote from: TEXAS FAIRIES FOR ALL YOU SPAGS on August 13, 2012, 09:05:30 PM
Reading...yes, very true, yes, exactly...and then this line:

Quote from: Dirty Old Uncle Roger on August 13, 2012, 04:59:14 PM
Imagine what the neighbors would say if a bunch of pissed off veterans decided to Build Their Own Dream for once.

Holy fuck. It was like something went through me.

*sprunnnnng*
Ditto.
"I dispose of obsolete meat machines.  Not because I hate them (I do) and not because they deserve it (they do), but because they are in the way and those older ones don't meet emissions codes.  They emit too much.  You don't like them and I don't like them, so spare me the hysteria."

The Good Reverend Roger

Quote from: Net on August 13, 2012, 11:12:39 PM
And right on cue there was yet another shooting today, this time at Texas A&M:

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0812/79677.html

It's starting to remind me of the late 90's, when bombings and shooting sprees were all the rage.

*sprung*

If your culture is based on insanity, why would you expect members of that culture to remain sane?
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

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