Wage Slavery

[Cain]

Supply and demand, comr-uh, citizen.

The demand is so low, and the cost of production is so high, only decadent college professors can afford pictures of Famous Dead Communists, Che Guevara aside.

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

As everyone knows, in the capitalist west the reading of Marx and study of Communist history are forbidden by the ruling Supreme Chambers of Commerce.

Even if you can get hold of a copy of his Manifesto it's useless unless you started learning Russian at age 10.

[The Good Reverend Roger]

Supply and demand, comr-uh, citizen.

The demand is so low, and the cost of production is so high, only decadent college professors can afford pictures of Famous Dead Communists, Che Guevara aside.

Well, it's a good thing we have Holist, then, who certainly isn't a dilittante at this sort of thing.  Or everything else.

[The Good Reverend Roger]

As everyone knows, in the capitalist west the reading of Marx and study of Communist history are forbidden by the ruling Supreme Chambers of Commerce.

Even if you can get hold of a copy of his Manifesto it's useless unless you started learning Russian at age 10.

TOO OLD HE IS!

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

Oh, you already did. ISN'T THAT AMAZING???

Have I mentioned that I keep a picture of Richard Feynman in my living room?  I am now an expert on advanced physics.

My bedroom has pictures of Richard Nixon on every wall. I'll leave it to you to figure out what I'm an expert in.

[The Good Reverend Roger]

Oh, you already did. ISN'T THAT AMAZING???

Have I mentioned that I keep a picture of Richard Feynman in my living room?  I am now an expert on advanced physics.

My bedroom has pictures of Richard Nixon on every wall. I'll leave it to you to figure out what I'm an expert in.

BIBI REBOZO?

[Anna Mae Bollocks]

Oh, you already did. ISN'T THAT AMAZING???

Have I mentioned that I keep a picture of Richard Feynman in my living room?  I am now an expert on advanced physics.

My bedroom has pictures of Richard Nixon on every wall. I'll leave it to you to figure out what I'm an expert in.

BIBI REBOZO?

CLOTH COATS? COCKER SPANIELS?

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

Oh, you already did. ISN'T THAT AMAZING???

Have I mentioned that I keep a picture of Richard Feynman in my living room?  I am now an expert on advanced physics.

My bedroom has pictures of Richard Nixon on every wall. I'll leave it to you to figure out what I'm an expert in.

BIBI REBOZO?

I'll give you some "covert payments", if you know what I'm sayin'.

[The Good Reverend Roger]

Oh, you already did. ISN'T THAT AMAZING???

Have I mentioned that I keep a picture of Richard Feynman in my living room?  I am now an expert on advanced physics.

My bedroom has pictures of Richard Nixon on every wall. I'll leave it to you to figure out what I'm an expert in.

BIBI REBOZO?

I'll give you some "covert payments", if you know what I'm sayin'.

Just sucked my jeans up my arse.

This is yet another feature of Roger™ of which I was not aware, and would turn off if the fucking menus were in any way comprehensible.

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

 

[Anna Mae Bollocks]

Nigel's tough. I'm not sure I could even sleep good with Nixon gazing down at me, much less do teh secks. 

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

Nigel's tough. I'm not sure I could even sleep good with Nixon gazing down at me, much less do teh secks. 

The gentlemen LOVE it!

Well, they don't usually come back, but I'm pretty sure they love it. Secretly.

[Phox]

Ok, against my better judgment, here it goes.

To show sincerity, though, I will give you an example: I noted that the word fun was used as an adjective for the sex itself (i.e. that sex without a condom is more "fun" than sex with a condom), or in cases like when they looked at each other's genitals "for fun", which doesn't necessarily that it was actually a fun experience, but that they were doing it despite the fact they really didn't have the ability to identify signs of STDs unless it was something obvious, to stave off boredom while they waited for the shoot to begin.

It's an interesting point. I'm going to start a new thread called "Soft paternalism, linguistic parsing and exploitation" using not porn examples (since we don't need a Porn Princess thread #3), and see if there is an interest in what I see as a categorical problem. If you want to talk about this specific example, I suppose it makes sense to do that here.

You are missing my point, if I understand your other thread correctly. That was only the surface, since your argument against Nigel seemed to be that because that porn star used the word "fun" that she: A) legitimately enjoyed her experience overall, 2) is not mentally, emotionally, or physically harmed in some way, or will end up as such if she continues in the industry, or iii) that she isn't forced to give a positive statement because doing otherwise would cause her more problems. Now, staying away from the credibility issue at this point, and looking just at the context, unless I missed something, she does not say that working in the porn industry has been a fun, positive experience for her, but rather relates an anecdote about a particular experience. I'm not saying that she wouldn't say that, nor that she wouldn't legitimately feel that way, but when working with textual accounts with little or no context like this, the specific use of language is the ONLY means we have to draw conclusions from., and it seems to me that you drew a conclusion that is not supported by the evidence, on this one.

To add another point: Have you ever noticed that most of the time, emotionally damaged people, don't realize/admit that they are emotionally damaged? Even if they do, do you think that a person who saw no way out of the porn industry would bad mouth it publicly?

[Anna Mae Bollocks]

Nigel's tough. I'm not sure I could even sleep good with Nixon gazing down at me, much less do teh secks. 

The gentlemen LOVE it!

Well, they don't usually come back, but I'm pretty sure they love it. Secretly.

[Luna]

Nigel's tough. I'm not sure I could even sleep good with Nixon gazing down at me, much less do teh secks. 

The gentlemen LOVE it!

Well, they don't usually come back, but I'm pretty sure they love it. Secretly.

That's because, in order to come back, they'd have to dig themselves out of the rose garden...  And they're too afraid to do that, because they know another Nigeling is waiting for them if they DO get out.