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Started by Suu, December 04, 2012, 03:19:49 PM

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The Good Reverend Roger

Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on December 26, 2012, 09:17:46 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on December 26, 2012, 09:12:49 PM
Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on December 26, 2012, 09:02:05 PM
Despite my personal stance against medical marijuana, I'm going to say I agree with Nigel.  Technically, if they are going to allow workers to work while using prescription drugs they should also allow medical marijuana.  That is, it should be equitable.  If one is okay, the other should be too.  Unless of course where you work receives federal funds, in which case I'd see why they wouldn't allow workers to use medical marijuana.

Because the congressmen that set these requirements are funded and lobbied by Big Pharma, and weed is BAD and pills are GOOD, because they can't control weed and sell it, while they can with pills.  Also, allowing certain core industries to use weed would invalidate the "WEED IS THE DEVIL" religion that sprung up in 1933 and 1981. 

As always, it's economics, enforced by what amounts to a religion...Even leaving aside decriminalization for recreational use, which I think we can safely leave alone for this discussion.


Doesn't surprise me.  Now, if it had been Big Tobacco, you'd be golden because Big Tobacco is already setting up the marketing andcommercial machinery for when marijuana is legalized federally, because that WILL happen.  They've already started to trademark brand names.

It's going to be interesting, watching how they keep private citizens from growing their own, seeing that weed would grow on the fucking MOON, given half a chance.
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Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on December 26, 2012, 09:19:33 PM
Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on December 26, 2012, 09:17:46 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on December 26, 2012, 09:12:49 PM
Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on December 26, 2012, 09:02:05 PM
Despite my personal stance against medical marijuana, I'm going to say I agree with Nigel.  Technically, if they are going to allow workers to work while using prescription drugs they should also allow medical marijuana.  That is, it should be equitable.  If one is okay, the other should be too.  Unless of course where you work receives federal funds, in which case I'd see why they wouldn't allow workers to use medical marijuana.

Because the congressmen that set these requirements are funded and lobbied by Big Pharma, and weed is BAD and pills are GOOD, because they can't control weed and sell it, while they can with pills.  Also, allowing certain core industries to use weed would invalidate the "WEED IS THE DEVIL" religion that sprung up in 1933 and 1981. 

As always, it's economics, enforced by what amounts to a religion...Even leaving aside decriminalization for recreational use, which I think we can safely leave alone for this discussion.


Doesn't surprise me.  Now, if it had been Big Tobacco, you'd be golden because Big Tobacco is already setting up the marketing andcommercial machinery for when marijuana is legalized federally, because that WILL happen.  They've already started to trademark brand names.

It's going to be interesting, watching how they keep private citizens from growing their own, seeing that weed would grow on the fucking MOON, given half a chance.


Yep, the stuff will grow and thrive in fucking Maine.  It will be interesting to see how that happens.  It's not going to be like alcohol where you really only have your extreme beer-geeks making it at home.  Anyone with a patch of soil and/pr electricity will be able to grow it.


Which means you can expect Big Tobacco to help write the regulations regarding private cultivation.
Cynicism is a blank check for failure.

The Good Reverend Roger

Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on December 26, 2012, 09:23:54 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on December 26, 2012, 09:19:33 PM
Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on December 26, 2012, 09:17:46 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on December 26, 2012, 09:12:49 PM
Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on December 26, 2012, 09:02:05 PM
Despite my personal stance against medical marijuana, I'm going to say I agree with Nigel.  Technically, if they are going to allow workers to work while using prescription drugs they should also allow medical marijuana.  That is, it should be equitable.  If one is okay, the other should be too.  Unless of course where you work receives federal funds, in which case I'd see why they wouldn't allow workers to use medical marijuana.

Because the congressmen that set these requirements are funded and lobbied by Big Pharma, and weed is BAD and pills are GOOD, because they can't control weed and sell it, while they can with pills.  Also, allowing certain core industries to use weed would invalidate the "WEED IS THE DEVIL" religion that sprung up in 1933 and 1981. 

As always, it's economics, enforced by what amounts to a religion...Even leaving aside decriminalization for recreational use, which I think we can safely leave alone for this discussion.


Doesn't surprise me.  Now, if it had been Big Tobacco, you'd be golden because Big Tobacco is already setting up the marketing andcommercial machinery for when marijuana is legalized federally, because that WILL happen.  They've already started to trademark brand names.

It's going to be interesting, watching how they keep private citizens from growing their own, seeing that weed would grow on the fucking MOON, given half a chance.


Yep, the stuff will grow and thrive in fucking Maine.  It will be interesting to see how that happens.  It's not going to be like alcohol where you really only have your extreme beer-geeks making it at home.  Anyone with a patch of soil and/pr electricity will be able to grow it.


Which means you can expect Big Tobacco to help write the regulations regarding private cultivation.

Obviously.  They'll probably make it a tax issue, like they did with whiskey.
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

Mesozoic Mister Nigel

Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on December 26, 2012, 09:15:16 PM
Yeah, I'd be surprised given that it's oil if federal funds weren't involved somewhere.  Though, it's prerty clear to me that the Obama administration has absolutely ZERO interest in enforcing federal marijuana laws, at least, with respect to medical marijuana and the new recreational laws in Colorado and Washington.

This may be true, but they came down hard on Oregon and California last year, raiding and putting out of business scores of legal farms here. So, it's hard to say whether they'll do the same in Colorado and Washington.

"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."


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What I'm hearing behind the scenes tells me they won't.  They may still go after the occassinal dispensary, for show, but there won't be any sustained effort to push back against the expansion of medical marijuana and the new recreatinal laws in Colorado and Washington, not under this administration anyway.  That can always change under a new President. 



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Mesozoic Mister Nigel

Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on December 26, 2012, 09:17:46 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on December 26, 2012, 09:12:49 PM
Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on December 26, 2012, 09:02:05 PM
Despite my personal stance against medical marijuana, I'm going to say I agree with Nigel.  Technically, if they are going to allow workers to work while using prescription drugs they should also allow medical marijuana.  That is, it should be equitable.  If one is okay, the other should be too.  Unless of course where you work receives federal funds, in which case I'd see why they wouldn't allow workers to use medical marijuana.

Because the congressmen that set these requirements are funded and lobbied by Big Pharma, and weed is BAD and pills are GOOD, because they can't control weed and sell it, while they can with pills.  Also, allowing certain core industries to use weed would invalidate the "WEED IS THE DEVIL" religion that sprung up in 1933 and 1981. 

As always, it's economics, enforced by what amounts to a religion...Even leaving aside decriminalization for recreational use, which I think we can safely leave alone for this discussion.


Doesn't surprise me.  Now, if it had been Big Tobacco, you'd be golden because Big Tobacco is already setting up the marketing andcommercial machinery for when marijuana is legalized federally, because that WILL happen.  They've already started to trademark brand names.

They did that 20+ years ago. It's taking longer than they expected.
"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."


Mesozoic Mister Nigel

Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on December 26, 2012, 10:37:19 PM
What I'm hearing behind the scenes tells me they won't.  They may still go after the occassinal dispensary, for show, but there won't be any sustained effort to push back against the expansion of medical marijuana and the new recreatinal laws in Colorado and Washington, not under this administration anyway.  That can always change under a new President.

I suspect the raids in Oregon and California were about testing the waters, to see what the public reaction would be. It was overwhelmingly negative, especially in farming areas where the local economies have been boosted so much by legal marijuana farms. They had a window of opportunity for pushback, and the window is rapidly closing, if it's still open at all.
"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."


insideout

Quote from: M. Nigel Salt on December 26, 2012, 08:53:45 PM
Well shit, I changed the resolution on my monitor and while everything is now huge, it stopped flickering.

This completely does not answer the question of why it started flickering in the first place, but at least I don't need a new monitor!
Sounds to me like an issue with your video card, or your video card's driver.  The video cards can go out over time, and the drivers that run them can become corrupted over time.

If it happens again, either find a geek friend that knows computer hardware and ply him with something that tempts him to get him to diagnose it for you, or pay hard-won cash at a tech shop to get them to diagnose it for you.

Anyway, that is my guess based on what you just said.

My qualifications:  I have a computer at home that is a frankenstein monster of 5 different computers pieced together because I was too cheap to buy a new one, and it works just fine.

And also, I've been doing either computer sales, programming or repair for a living since about 1996.

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http://criticpunk.com/live/concert/review/cp_12052012_el.html
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"I Turn To You" by Melanie C
"My Life Be Like Ooh Aah" by Grits
"Ballad of Serenity" from the Firefly soundtrack
"Blame On Me" by Toots and the Maytals, with Rachael Yamagata

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Mesozoic Mister Nigel

Quote from: insideout on December 26, 2012, 11:35:34 PM
Quote from: M. Nigel Salt on December 26, 2012, 08:53:45 PM
Well shit, I changed the resolution on my monitor and while everything is now huge, it stopped flickering.

This completely does not answer the question of why it started flickering in the first place, but at least I don't need a new monitor!
Sounds to me like an issue with your video card, or your video card's driver.  The video cards can go out over time, and the drivers that run them can become corrupted over time.

If it happens again, either find a geek friend that knows computer hardware and ply him with something that tempts him to get him to diagnose it for you, or pay hard-won cash at a tech shop to get them to diagnose it for you.

Anyway, that is my guess based on what you just said.

My qualifications:  I have a computer at home that is a frankenstein monster of 5 different computers pieced together because I was too cheap to buy a new one, and it works just fine.

And also, I've been doing either computer sales, programming or repair for a living since about 1996.

It's a Mac Mini so if the video card is going the whole computer is going.
"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."


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I think I might be in trouble. The place I just blew all my Christmas money at gives a ten percent credit back with every order.
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Quote from: Juana Go? on December 27, 2012, 12:33:31 AM
I think I might be in trouble. The place I just blew all my Christmas money at gives a ten percent credit back with every order.

DID YOU JUST FIND THE ECONOMIC EQUIVALENT OF A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
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