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Started by LMNO, April 15, 2013, 08:19:14 PM

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Mesozoic Mister Nigel

Quote from: stelz on April 23, 2013, 10:50:41 PM
Quote from: M. Nigel Salt on April 23, 2013, 10:45:55 PM
I noticed three things.

1. It's a terrible poem, worse than anything I have ever written. I am burning with jealousy.

2. It's not about Drothafhakjuzar or whatever his name is, it's about Amanda Palmer. Which is, you know.

3.
Quoteand i thought: this is amazing. when was the last time a thousand people argued about a stupid poem? -- Amanda Palmer

God damn, that's a good observation.

NOBODY outdoes Kitty Parsons.

I don't know, Kitty's feeling pretty upstaged, here. That was ABYSMAL. Further, it was LONG.

I don't know that Kitty has the staying power to compete. Every line ended in a period.

Kitty may just go off on a snit and write an epic poem about how much she envies and admires Amanda Palmer.
"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."


Mesozoic Mister Nigel

Quote from: Cain on April 23, 2013, 10:49:42 PM
A "mystery radical" which, apparently, was in contact with Tamerlan before the FBI investigated him in 2011.

uhhhh that's not sketchy AT ALL.
"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."


The Johnny

Quote from: M. Nigel Salt on April 23, 2013, 04:34:52 PM
Quote from: Bu☆ns on April 23, 2013, 04:24:22 PM
Police perform house-to-house raids in Watertown MA

Wait....WAT THE FUCK!?

Yeah this is a pretty good one too. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B_Gb6i5DF9k

WTF, Massachusetts.

Quote from:  3:07 dude
I mean I hope the guy is not like in my house, i mean i hope they catch him... Certainly not happy about it, i wanted to sleep.

Well, it's 100% cool beans to get your basic liberties of no search without a warrant getting stomped on as long as you are allowed to sleep. Or something.
<<My image in some places, is of a monster of some kind who wants to pull a string and manipulate people. Nothing could be further from the truth. People are manipulated; I just want them to be manipulated more effectively.>>

-B.F. Skinner

tyrannosaurus vex

GIVE ME LIBERTY
OR... don't, I guess.

It's up to you.

I'll just be in here taking a nap.

If that's OK.
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Roly Poly Oly-Garch

Quote from: The Johnny on April 24, 2013, 03:45:36 AM
Quote from: M. Nigel Salt on April 23, 2013, 04:34:52 PM
Quote from: Bu☆ns on April 23, 2013, 04:24:22 PM
Police perform house-to-house raids in Watertown MA

Wait....WAT THE FUCK!?

Yeah this is a pretty good one too. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B_Gb6i5DF9k

WTF, Massachusetts.

Quote from:  3:07 dude
I mean I hope the guy is not like in my house, i mean i hope they catch him... Certainly not happy about it, i wanted to sleep.

Well, it's 100% cool beans to get your basic liberties of no search without a warrant getting stomped on as long as you are allowed to sleep. Or something.

P.C. = Probable Cause
P.C. = Perpetual Cause

...it's an easy substitution
Back to the fecal matter in the pool

Bu🤠ns

Quote from: The Johnny on April 24, 2013, 03:45:36 AM
Quote from: M. Nigel Salt on April 23, 2013, 04:34:52 PM
Quote from: Bu☆ns on April 23, 2013, 04:24:22 PM
Police perform house-to-house raids in Watertown MA

Wait....WAT THE FUCK!?

Yeah this is a pretty good one too. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B_Gb6i5DF9k

WTF, Massachusetts.

Quote from:  3:07 dude
I mean I hope the guy is not like in my house, i mean i hope they catch him... Certainly not happy about it, i wanted to sleep.

Well, it's 100% cool beans to get your basic liberties of no search without a warrant getting stomped on as long as you are allowed to sleep. Or something.

I might be projecting here a little but that guy in nigel's linked vid holding his daughter...talking about how he didn't like it but something to the effect of 'it's a good thing that they're doing what they have to do.'  Ugh I couldn't help but wince...There's no way he was believing  that crap coming out of his own mouth.

It's like he was getting governmentally pigscrewed in front of his whole town and saying, "um ... well... okay if this is what you have to do...then do it'. 

I mean if you didn't have a choice then you fucking shout, "DO YOUR WORST COCKSUCKERS!"  but damn...if this is a small representation of our whole country then I just want to say that it's been a pleasure knowing all of you folks the past couple years.


Cain

Just so everyone knows, the Elvis impersonator charged with sending ricin to President Obama has been cleared and released.

QuoteCharges were dropped and "new information" became available, U.S. Attorney Felicia Adams said.

Authorities are investigating whether someone may have tried to falsely implicate the Elvis impersonator from Corinth, Mississippi, a law enforcement source said on condition of anonymity.

Cain

Hmmm:

QuoteGeorgia Sen. Saxby Chambliss told Channel 2 Action News late Tuesday afternoon that a law enforcement agency may have had information in advance of the Boston bombings that wasn't properly shared.

"There now appears that may have been some evidence that was obtained by one of the law enforcement agencies that did not get shared in a way that it could have been. If that turns out to be the case, then we have to determine whether or not that would have made a difference," Chambliss said.

Though Chambliss would not get into specifics on the information or whether or not the bombing could have been prevented, he told Channel 2 Action News that they will find out if someone dropped the ball.

Chambliss isn't up for re-election either, so consider me interested in this allegation.

Cain

Consortium News, the website of investigative journalist Robert Parry, has a good piece up on the strategy of support for Chechen terrorists by the United States:

QuoteAuthor John Laughland wrote: "the leading group which pleads the Chechen cause is the American Committee for Peace in Chechnya (ACPC). The list of the self-styled 'distinguished Americans' who are its members is a roll call of the most prominent neoconservatives who so enthusiastically support the 'war on terror.'

"They include Richard Perle, the notorious Pentagon adviser; Elliott Abrams of Iran-Contra fame; Kenneth Adelman, the former US ambassador to the UN who egged on the invasion of Iraq by predicting it would be 'a cakewalk'; Midge Decter, biographer of Donald Rumsfeld and a director of the rightwing Heritage Foundation; Frank Gaffney of the militarist Centre for Security Policy; Bruce Jackson, former US military intelligence officer and one-time vice-president of Lockheed Martin, now president of the US Committee on Nato; Michael Ledeen of the American Enterprise Institute, a former admirer of Italian fascism and now a leading proponent of regime change in Iran; and R. James Woolsey, the former CIA director who is one of the leading cheerleaders behind George Bush's plans to re-model the Muslim world along pro-US lines."

The ACPC later sanitized "Chechnya" to "Caucasus" so it's rebranded itself as the "American Committee for Peace in the Caucasus."

Also this is of considerable interest:

QuoteShenon's discovery involved key information that the FBI and the entire "intelligence" community mishandled and covered up, not only before 9/11 but for a decade afterward. And it also related to the exact point of my 2002 "whistleblower memo" that led to the post 9/11 DOJ-Inspector General investigation about FBI failures and also partially helped launch the 9/11 Commission investigation.

But still the full truth did not come out, even after Shenon's blockbuster discovery in 2011 of the April 2001 memo linking the main Chechen leader Ibn al Khattab to Osama bin Laden. The buried April 2001 memo had been addressed to FBI Director Louis Freeh (another illegal recipient of MEK money, by the way!) and also to eight of the FBI's top counter-terrorism officials.

Similar memos must have been widely shared with all U.S. intelligence in April 2001. Within days of terrorist suspect Zaccarias Moussaoui's arrest in Minnesota on Aug. 16, 2001, French intelligence confirmed that Moussaoui had been fighting under and recruiting for Ibn al-Khattab, raising concerns about Moussaoui's flight training.

Yet FBI Headquarters officials balked at allowing a search of his laptop and other property, still refusing to recognize that: 1) the Chechen separatists were themselves a "terrorist group" for purposes of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act's (FISA) legal requirement of acting "on behalf of a foreign power" and 2) that Moussaoui's link to Ibn al Khattab inherently then linked him to bin Laden's well-recognized Al Qaeda group for purposes of FISA (the point in my memo).

And of course, we know that in the late 1990s, the CIA was also supporting Chechen terrorists:

Quote from: Nafeez AhmedFrom the mid-1990s, bin Laden funded Chechen guerrilla leaders Shamil Basayev and Omar ibn al-Khattab to the tune of several millions of dollars per month, sidelining the moderate Chechen majority. US intelligence remained deeply involved until the end of the decade. According to Yossef Bodanksy, then-Director of the US Congressional Task Force on Terrorism and Unconventional Warfare, Washington was actively involved in 'yet another anti-Russian jihad, 'seeking to support and empower the most virulent anti-Western Islamist forces'. US Government officials participated in 'a formal meeting in Azerbaijan' in December 1999 'in which specific programmes for the training and equipping of mujahidin from the Caucasus, Central/South Asia and the Arab world were discussed and agreed upon', culminating in 'Washington's tacit encouragement of both Muslim allies (mainly Turkey, Jordan and Saudi Arabia) and US "private security companies"... to assist the Chechens and their Islamist allies to surge in the spring of 2000 and sustain the ensuing jihad for a long time.' The US saw the sponsorship of 'Islamist jihad in the Caucasus' as a way to 'deprive Russia of a viable pipeline route through spiraling violence and terrorism'.

Mesozoic Mister Nigel

Oh wow, that's interesting stuff, Cain!~
"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."


Cain

Yeah.  It's one reason I'm still considering alternative explanations for the bombings.  Chechnya is such a clusterfuck of parapolitical interest, both in the USA and in Russia, that anything resulting from that region is tainted by the suspicion of involvement.

Still nothing definitive, but lots of potential avenues of inquiry. 

Cardinal Pizza Deliverance.

You know why I enjoy PD? Because of this stuff. I tried talking to a co-worker about this and she's like "Those damn Russians!" Because Chechnya is a city in Russia. "They come over here all pissed about our vodka being better than theirs and go apeshit!"

O.o

Thank you, Cain. For not being a moron.
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"The only way we can ever change anything is to look in the mirror and find no enemy." - Akala  'Find No Enemy'.

Cain

Quote from: Cardinal Pizza Deliverance. on April 24, 2013, 07:25:03 PM
Thank you, Cain. For not being a moron.

You're welcome.

Quote from: Cain on April 24, 2013, 09:55:21 AM
Just so everyone knows, the Elvis impersonator charged with sending ricin to President Obama has been cleared and released.

QuoteCharges were dropped and "new information" became available, U.S. Attorney Felicia Adams said.

Authorities are investigating whether someone may have tried to falsely implicate the Elvis impersonator from Corinth, Mississippi, a law enforcement source said on condition of anonymity.

Also, related to this: does anyone else remember they tried painting the suspect as a lunatic because he believed in a secret network dealing in an illegal trade in organs and other body parts?

Quote from: Not An Attempted Presidential AssassinAbout 4 hour into the job after I laid down the first coat of sealer, I became very thirsty. I was unable to exit the morgue due to floor finish not drying as fast as I had anticipated with the humidity level, so I opened the dor to a small refrigerator located to the right of the autopsy table. I assumed I might find some water or anything to drink as I was dehydrated.

What I discovered, changed my life forever! There were dismembered body parts & organs wrapped in plastic. A leg, an arm, a hand, a foot, hearts, lungs, tissue, eyes and even a severed human head!

Well, about that...

RTI Biologics is a Gainsville company that did a lot of business with Ukrainian tissue providers, who were investigated for illegal tissue recovery multiple times.

But you know, he's obviously the crazy one.

Cardinal Pizza Deliverance.

Yet another wonderful clusterfuck.
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Slick and Deranged Wombat of Manhood Questioning
Hulking Dormouse of Lust and DESPAIR™
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"The only way we can ever change anything is to look in the mirror and find no enemy." - Akala  'Find No Enemy'.