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Started by LMNO, April 15, 2013, 08:19:14 PM

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Anna Mae Bollocks

Quote from: Cardinal Pizza Deliverance. on April 24, 2013, 07:25:03 PM
You know why I enjoy PD? Because of this stuff. I tried talking to a co-worker about this and she's like "Those damn Russians!" Because Chechnya is a city in Russia. "They come over here all pissed about our vodka being better than theirs and go apeshit!"

O.o

Thank you, Cain. For not being a moron.

SO much this.

People here just zone out on FOX and cheese tater tots, looking dumbstruck until they start repeating "Terrorists...terrorists..."

I don't even try to engage them in conversation anymore.
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Mesozoic Mister Nigel

Quote from: Cain on April 24, 2013, 07:33:27 PM
Quote from: Cardinal Pizza Deliverance. on April 24, 2013, 07:25:03 PM
Thank you, Cain. For not being a moron.

You're welcome.

Quote from: Cain on April 24, 2013, 09:55:21 AM
Just so everyone knows, the Elvis impersonator charged with sending ricin to President Obama has been cleared and released.

QuoteCharges were dropped and "new information" became available, U.S. Attorney Felicia Adams said.

Authorities are investigating whether someone may have tried to falsely implicate the Elvis impersonator from Corinth, Mississippi, a law enforcement source said on condition of anonymity.

Also, related to this: does anyone else remember they tried painting the suspect as a lunatic because he believed in a secret network dealing in an illegal trade in organs and other body parts?

Quote from: Not An Attempted Presidential AssassinAbout 4 hour into the job after I laid down the first coat of sealer, I became very thirsty. I was unable to exit the morgue due to floor finish not drying as fast as I had anticipated with the humidity level, so I opened the dor to a small refrigerator located to the right of the autopsy table. I assumed I might find some water or anything to drink as I was dehydrated.

What I discovered, changed my life forever! There were dismembered body parts & organs wrapped in plastic. A leg, an arm, a hand, a foot, hearts, lungs, tissue, eyes and even a severed human head!

Well, about that...

RTI Biologics is a Gainsville company that did a lot of business with Ukrainian tissue providers, who were investigated for illegal tissue recovery multiple times.

But you know, he's obviously the crazy one.

:eek: Oh wow.
"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."


Cain

Oh dear

http://www.boston.com/politicalintelligence/2013/04/23/russia-contacted-fbi-multiple-times-concerns-about-alleged-boston-marathon-bomber/NXGbfiW7hyYeRpdryaK3mN/story.html

QuoteRussian authorities alerted the US government not once but "multiple'' times over their concerns about Tamerlan Tsarnaev — including a second time nearly a year after he was first interviewed by FBI agents in Boston — raising new questions about whether the FBI should have focused more attention on the suspected Boston Marathon bomber, according to US senators briefed on the probe Tuesday.

[...]

In a closed briefing on Tuesday, members of the Senate Intelligence Committee learned that Russia alerted the United States about Tsarnaev in "multiple contacts'' — including "at least once since October 2011,'' said Richard Burr, a Republican of North Carolina, speaking with reporters afterward.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/biden-lashes-out-at-twisted-perverted-terrorists-in-eulogy-for-slain-office/2013/04/24/652b987a-acf8-11e2-a8b9-2a63d75b5459_print.html

QuoteThe CIA asked the main U.S. counterterrorism agency to add the name of one of the suspected Boston Marathon bombers to a watch list more than a year before the attack, according to U.S. officials.

The agency took the step after Russian authorities contacted officials there in the fall of 2011 and raised concerns that Tamerlan Tsarnaev — who was killed last week in a confrontation with police — was seen as an increasingly radical Islamist and could be planning to travel overseas. The CIA requested that his name be put on a database maintained by the National Counterterrorism Center.

That database, the Terrorist Identities Datamart Environment, or TIDE, is a data storehouse that feeds a series of government watch lists, including the FBI's main Terrorist Screening Database and the Transportation Security Administration's "no-fly" list.

Officials said Tsarnaev's name was added to the database but it's unclear which agency added it.

Admittedly now, the TIDE program is crap.  Basically anyone who has ever come into contact with a suspected terrorist has an entry in TIDE, which includes vast swathes of the population.  I probably have a TIDE file somewhere.

However, the idea that no-one could have predicted what happened is becoming somewhat tenuous.  Even given the large amounts of false flags raised by many counter-terrorism programs such as TIDE, when you have an intelligence agency going out of its way to knock on your door not once but at least twice to give you a warning about a specific person, it's hard to claim they were an unstoppable, hitherto unknown "lone wolf".

deadfong

Given that our countries aren't all that friendly, could part of the reason why the FBI apparently repeatedly ignored the Russians' concerns be because they were coming from the Russians?  I wonder if some people in the FBI might've asked themselves why a Chechen would want to attack the U.S., and simply figure the Russians were trying to stir something up?

Cain

It's possible, yes.  But then, it should have also been considered that the Russians do have something to gain here - namely preventing terrorism from the Chechen emigre community and perhaps highlighting the danger of Chechen terrorism to the American public and thus convincing American policymakers that Chechnya is another front in the War on Terror.  It would be much easier for the FSB to sit on their hands and do nothing if the issue fundamentally did not serve their interests in some way, so I'd be surprised if someone didn't point out what this might gain for Russia.

Assuming this wasn't some crazy plan cooked up in an FSB basement in the first place, of course.

Cain

So....

QuoteThe officials told the AP that no gun was found in the boat where Dzhokhar was hiding. Boston police Commissioner Ed Davis said earlier that shots were fired from inside the boat.

Asked whether the suspect had a gun in the boat, Davis said, "I'm not going to talk about that."

But Kurt Schwartz, director of the Massachusetts Emergency Management Agency, said a police officer was shot within half a mile of where Tsarnaev was captured, "and I know who shot him."

Authorities had previously said Dzhokhar exchanged gunfire with them for more than an hour Friday night before they captured him inside a tarp-covered boat in a suburban Boston neighborhood backyard. But two U.S. officials said Wednesday that he was unarmed when captured, raising questions about the gunfire and how he was injured.

Either Chechens have mind bullets and thus are far more dangerous than ever anticipated, or Boston PD basically held Dzhokhar down and shot him in the throat.

LMNO

There were some odd reports that day.  Some people heard popping sounds like firecrackers, some people said that was the flashbang grenades they used.  Would the cops use a lower-caliber round in those instances?  The kinds of guns shown on TV would have much louder reports than what was captured on tape.

Cain

I couldn't say.  It's possible that a SWAT team would used suppressed weapons, I would guess.

Anna Mae Bollocks

Quote from: Cain on April 25, 2013, 03:10:02 PM
So....

QuoteThe officials told the AP that no gun was found in the boat where Dzhokhar was hiding. Boston police Commissioner Ed Davis said earlier that shots were fired from inside the boat.

Asked whether the suspect had a gun in the boat, Davis said, "I'm not going to talk about that."

But Kurt Schwartz, director of the Massachusetts Emergency Management Agency, said a police officer was shot within half a mile of where Tsarnaev was captured, "and I know who shot him."

Authorities had previously said Dzhokhar exchanged gunfire with them for more than an hour Friday night before they captured him inside a tarp-covered boat in a suburban Boston neighborhood backyard. But two U.S. officials said Wednesday that he was unarmed when captured, raising questions about the gunfire and how he was injured.

Either Chechens have mind bullets and thus are far more dangerous than ever anticipated, or Boston PD basically held Dzhokhar down and shot him in the throat.

The guy who lived there said he went outside for a cigarette, saw blood on the boat, and walked over there and lifted the tarp.

This goes a long way towards explaining how he didn't get shot.
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Cain

Yeah.

Also turns out the New York Times reported incorrectly on Friday.  Dzhokhar was still inside the lockdown zone.

Anna Mae Bollocks

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Junkenstein

Just caught that. Cue the hate barrage from old media about how dangerous new media is.

Not like any major news channels named that guy too is it?

Somebodies getting sued from this. Spin the wheel and see where the litigation lands! BET BET BET
Nine naked Men just walking down the road will cause a heap of trouble for all concerned.

Q. G. Pennyworth

Keeping fingers crossed for accidental drowning :(

Bruno

Is that one of the "Bag Men" reported by the New York Post?
Formerly something else...

Junkenstein

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Quote from: stelz on April 25, 2013, 04:29:29 PM
Quote from: Cain on April 25, 2013, 03:10:02 PM
So....

QuoteThe officials told the AP that no gun was found in the boat where Dzhokhar was hiding. Boston police Commissioner Ed Davis said earlier that shots were fired from inside the boat.

Asked whether the suspect had a gun in the boat, Davis said, "I'm not going to talk about that."

But Kurt Schwartz, director of the Massachusetts Emergency Management Agency, said a police officer was shot within half a mile of where Tsarnaev was captured, "and I know who shot him."

Authorities had previously said Dzhokhar exchanged gunfire with them for more than an hour Friday night before they captured him inside a tarp-covered boat in a suburban Boston neighborhood backyard. But two U.S. officials said Wednesday that he was unarmed when captured, raising questions about the gunfire and how he was injured.

Either Chechens have mind bullets and thus are far more dangerous than ever anticipated, or Boston PD basically held Dzhokhar down and shot him in the throat.

The guy who lived there said he went outside for a cigarette, saw blood on the boat, and walked over there and lifted the tarp.

This goes a long way towards explaining how he didn't get shot.

It really puts that neck injury in a bad light. Trying to ID the actual shooter is going to be practically impossible I guessing. I'd bet there's little inclination to either. The Infowars brigade is going to have a ton of 3 letter suspects by the weekend.

Nine naked Men just walking down the road will cause a heap of trouble for all concerned.