News:

TESTEMONAIL:  Right and Discordianism allows room for personal interpretation. You have your theories and I have mine. Unlike Christianity, Discordia allows room for ideas and opinions, and mine is well-informed and based on ancient philosophy and theology, so, my neo-Discordian friends, open your minds to my interpretation and I will open my mind to yours. That's fair enough, right? Just claiming to be discordian should mean that your mind is open and willing to learn and share ideas. You guys are fucking bashing me and your laughing at my theologies and my friends know what's up and are laughing at you and honestly this is my last shot at putting a label on my belief structure and your making me lose all hope of ever finding a ideological group I can relate to because you don't even know what the fuck I'm talking about and everything I have said is based on the founding principals of real Discordianism. Expand your mind.

Main Menu

Logal guy is uncooperative at DUI checkpoint. Hilarity ensues.

Started by Bruno, July 07, 2013, 12:11:53 AM

Previous topic - Next topic

Bruno

I can't wait to see what the Obama-hating, racist, Islamophobic, teabilly newspaper has to say about it.  :lulz:
Formerly something else...

Left

#16
Quote from: V3X on July 07, 2013, 10:03:50 PM
Yes it was planned, yes it was a stunt. But the police in the video weren't in on it, so what's this guy's point? Who cares if he went there with the specific intention of documenting the way real cops react to real rights when they're demanded? I see no problem with that at all.
Neither do I.

...I haven't ever seen a drunk-driving checkpoint, honestly.
I just see lots of drunks, usually damn near clipping my car as they go weaving past.
At least I now have uninsured motorist, so if they total my car, I get a newer hoopty.

I wonder if it's an advantage of being female, though, that cops don't seem to find me suspicious?
I'll take full advantage of it, if so...
Anyway...
He doesn't HAVE to roll down his window...but chances are the cop was trying to see whether he smelled alcohol or pot smoke.

If you have a very good sense of smell, a very simple  way to run a DWI checkpoint would be to get people to pull up and roll down the window.
When my nose isn't inflamed, yes, I can EASILY smell alcohol or pot on someone.
Yes, from that distance.

...I'm not justifying his behavior, I'm not justifying the entire practice.  In fact I think DWI checkpoints are probably more about revenue collection than they are about stopping drunk drivers.
I'm just trying to put myself in the jackboots.



Hope was the thing with feathers.
I smacked it with a hammer until it was red and squashy

The Johnny


The fuzz checkpoints is what prevents me to go out drinking.

Because there is no public transportation at 3am, when the bars close, and i live about 45 minutes away, which is just asking for trouble, because:

A) Rot away outside a 7-11 until the metro wakes up (good luck not getting robbed).

B) Pay a taxi over $20 to get to my house (which is right about 5 hours of wage down here, and my salary isnt bad, so thats a LOT just to get home).

C) Risk the fuzz checkpoints.
<<My image in some places, is of a monster of some kind who wants to pull a string and manipulate people. Nothing could be further from the truth. People are manipulated; I just want them to be manipulated more effectively.>>

-B.F. Skinner

Left

Quote from: The Johnny on July 08, 2013, 12:43:44 AM

The fuzz checkpoints is what prevents me to go out drinking.

Because there is no public transportation at 3am, when the bars close, and i live about 45 minutes away, which is just asking for trouble, because:

A) Rot away outside a 7-11 until the metro wakes up (good luck not getting robbed).

B) Pay a taxi over $20 to get to my house (which is right about 5 hours of wage down here, and my salary isnt bad, so thats a LOT just to get home).

C) Risk the fuzz checkpoints.

I just get hammered as soon as I walk in the place.
This only takes two beverages, BTW, SSRI's amplify the effects of booze.
I make sure I finish the booze by 10 pm, I can leave at 1 am.
Hope was the thing with feathers.
I smacked it with a hammer until it was red and squashy

Q. G. Pennyworth


Left

Quote from: Queen Gogira Pennyworth, BSW on July 08, 2013, 02:52:37 AM
Drink at home = no DUI
I realized I'd feel horrible if I hurt or killed someone while driving intoxicated.


Hope was the thing with feathers.
I smacked it with a hammer until it was red and squashy

Roly Poly Oly-Garch

I just ride a bike to do my drinking. I know this seems like a great idea. Surprisingly though, it hasn't always turned out that great.
Back to the fecal matter in the pool

Mesozoic Mister Nigel

Quote from: NoLeDeMiel on July 08, 2013, 08:31:39 PM
I just ride a bike to do my drinking. I know this seems like a great idea. Surprisingly though, it hasn't always turned out that great.

I can't actually ride in a straight line if I've had more than two. It kinda sucks.
"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."


McGrupp

Quote from: NoLeDeMiel on July 08, 2013, 08:31:39 PM
I just ride a bike to do my drinking. I know this seems like a great idea. Surprisingly though, it hasn't always turned out that great.

Depending on the state they can still give you a DUI on a bike.
http://philadelphia.cbslocal.com/2011/04/13/pennsylvania-man-charged-with-dui-on-bicycle/

or motorized wheelchairs in most places and at least one time a fisher price Barbie car, with a top speed of 4mph.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/howaboutthat/7606600/Man-loses-licence-after-drink-driving-in-toy-Barbie-car.html

McGrupp

So apparently this applies to skateboards and rollerblades in many states as well.
http://blog.aacriminallaw.com/dwi/oregon-man-charged-with-dui-while-skateboarding/

ugh, that can't possibly be the intent of DUI laws. I was unable to find an example of dui with rollerblades but it wouldn't surprise me.

Roly Poly Oly-Garch

Quote from: McGrupp on July 08, 2013, 09:50:27 PM
Quote from: NoLeDeMiel on July 08, 2013, 08:31:39 PM
I just ride a bike to do my drinking. I know this seems like a great idea. Surprisingly though, it hasn't always turned out that great.

Depending on the state they can still give you a DUI on a bike.
http://philadelphia.cbslocal.com/2011/04/13/pennsylvania-man-charged-with-dui-on-bicycle/

or motorized wheelchairs in most places and at least one time a fisher price Barbie car, with a top speed of 4mph.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/howaboutthat/7606600/Man-loses-licence-after-drink-driving-in-toy-Barbie-car.html

Yeah, a BUI was a possibility in Colorado where I did most of my B-ingUI. Trips over the handlebars were a bit more distinct a possibility, though.
Back to the fecal matter in the pool

Mesozoic Mister Nigel

They're possible here but I don't think they happen often; you have to be pretty visibly drunk for them to stop you.
"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."


Junkenstein

Random DUI stops/checkpoints occur in various "High risk" locations at particularly at public holidays. They operative in a very similar way when challenged here. I doubt this is a co-incidence.

The UK has a bit of an alcohol problem, so they function as nice money earners and PR exercises. Quick way to boost the crime stats too, so everyone's a winner.

They tend to have a large degree of public support here as road accidents/deaths get quite widely publicised. There's unfortunately no good way to deal with them here really. Questioning their authority is basically an invitation for them to waste your time at best. They're acting with a very strong moral imperative, and the uniform is almost impossible to break through.

That said, bias and that.
Nine naked Men just walking down the road will cause a heap of trouble for all concerned.

Golden Applesauce

w.r.t. biking/skateboarding/whatever under the influence - you're less likely to kill someone else with your stupidity, but it's still really dangerous if you're traveling near a road. All the basic mechanics of drunk = more likely to collide with a car still hold true, but unlike drunk driving you don't have a car to take the hit for you.

Freakonomics had a sketch of a statistical argument that walking home drunk, along a road, was even more dangerous (to the drunk person, not counting collateral damage) than driving the equivalent distance drunk. I've seen bloggers disagree with his conclusions (he relied on a lot of assumptions and correlations) but not any actual statistical fieldwork.
Q: How regularly do you hire 8th graders?
A: We have hired a number of FORMER 8th graders.

Pergamos

Quote from: My Other Username Is A Pseudonym on July 07, 2013, 09:04:09 PM
Quote from: Balls Wellington on July 07, 2013, 07:13:29 PM
Fuck the Police.

but seriously, how anybody could ever be OK with random checkpoints is utterly beyond me. Those people should move to Germany circa 1938.


I'd rather have Drunk Joe getting stopped and having an overnight stay in lock-up as opposed to plowing into a family sedan full of family.  Public roads are public and thus it is perfectly valid to institute procedures to protect safety on those public roads.

And if Juan gets dragged out of his car and beaten for being the wrong color, well that's just the price we have to pay to keep drunk drivers off the road.  Who wouldn't trade a little liberty for a little security after all?