Miley Cyrus, Pedobear, and the Hollywood Spectacle

[Ben Shapiro]

So the end  game is to make sure all girls are sitting up straight and shutting up?

[AFK]

How the hell do you come to THAT conclusion? 


Jesus!

[Don Coyote]

Young woman is not doing things the way YOU think she should.
You are predicting (actively hoping) that she Lohans.
You are discounting and ignoring the fact that she is most likely in control of the weird shit she is doing.

According to you, she isn't in control of herself, and if she is she isn't doing things the way you think she should, and if she isn't doing things the way you think she should she should shut up because her art isn't real and true enough for your tastes, and she is surely going to end up in rehab because of drugs and crazy because she cannot possibly have the support or the fortitude to be a popstar without turning to drugs and losing control of her life.

[AFK]

This one hits it out of the park, and I noted when I brought up this angle before, how Miley was objectifying others with her performance, that everyone here ignored it:

"it seems...that ann magnuson has similar things to say as sinead, just more stream of consciousness and less preachy. that "brilliant" commentary is also riddled with cliches. and that part about hashtags being a means of self prostitution is ridiculous compared to what your run in the mill pop star does to promote him/herself. Miley Cyrus is selling her product more than most in a shameless fashion. Shit, it isn't even original, it's booty shaking. It's a white girl miming a caricature of an increasingly mainstreamed minority subculture and packaging it as "edgy.""

"all i'm saying is that even if miley wanted that performance to go the way it did and those background dancers to be seen in the light they were seen in, it doesn't legitimize her actions or make her a "genius of a troll." Objectification doesn't mean "makes people feel bad about themselves." Objectification means, "causes the viewer to see the performer as an object and not a person." That definitely occurred, no matter what the performer's intentions were. I like to read both sinead's and ann magnuson's comments as statements against the institutionalized marginalization of women in a broader society. It's not about the individual, it's about the institution, and, like you said, it is through discourse that we learn from situations such as this. Discourse, I might add, that Sinead help foster."

[AFK]

She's a tool using others as mere tools. 

[Anna Mae Bollocks]

She's a tool using others as mere tools.

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[The Good Reverend Roger]

She's a tool using others as mere tools.

Your Brad Pitt hat is showing.

[The Good Reverend Roger]

Young woman is not doing things the way YOU think she should.
You are predicting (actively hoping) that she Lohans.
You are discounting and ignoring the fact that she is most likely in control of the weird shit she is doing.

According to you, she isn't in control of herself, and if she is she isn't doing things the way you think she should, and if she isn't doing things the way you think she should she should shut up because her art isn't real and true enough for your tastes, and she is surely going to end up in rehab because of drugs and crazy because she cannot possibly have the support or the fortitude to be a popstar without turning to drugs and losing control of her life.

If only she played smooth jazz!   

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

[AFK]

You can ignore her problems with racial appropriation but that doesn't make them go away:

http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/3817286

All the elements of nu-Cyrus that critics have called foul on in recent weeks were on display: black people used as props (see above), black cultural signifiers like twerking used as a means of connoting that Miley's now wild and dangerous, and little in the way of new or evocative imagery.

I've written about Miley's race problems (or, racism, depending on how you take it), but here's a quick summary: She's gone around telling people she wants to make music that "sounds black," that she likes "hood music" but isn't "a white Nicki Minaj," and most recently proclaimed that she's "not a white ratchet girl." Extending her master class on racial identity to social media, she told her followers that she is, indeed, aware of her skin color.

[AFK]

THAT's your new hero PD.COM?

[Lord Cataplanga]

You can ignore her problems with racial appropriation but that doesn't make them go away:

http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/3817286

All the elements of nu-Cyrus that critics have called foul on in recent weeks were on display: black people used as props (see above), black cultural signifiers like twerking used as a means of connoting that Miley's now wild and dangerous, and little in the way of new or evocative imagery.

I've written about Miley's race problems (or, racism, depending on how you take it), but here's a quick summary: She's gone around telling people she wants to make music that "sounds black," that she likes "hood music" but isn't "a white Nicki Minaj," and most recently proclaimed that she's "not a white ratchet girl." Extending her master class on racial identity to social media, she told her followers that she is, indeed, aware of her skin color.

Can you, or someone else, explain to me what is racial appropiation?
When I read the article, it doesn't sound so bad. Is it because the writer just assumes everyone knows why it's bad and it's just me who is missing some crucial context?

[Cain]

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[Lord Cataplanga]

I was just about to google site:principiadiscordia.com/forum "racial appropiation" because I remembered reading something about it on this forum but couldn't remember exactly where 

Thank you, Cain.

[Cain]

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