Open Bar: ASSUMING DIRECT CONTROL

[LMNO]

She doesn't live near me, so, no.


LMNO
-strong believer in herd immunity.

[Cardinal Pizza Deliverance.]

Herd immunity, that's a new one.

[LMNO]

Seriously?  You've never heard of that?  It's pretty much how mass vaccinations work.

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

I've never had one. About once every fifteen years, I get something that might be flu or might just be a really nasty cold. Doesn't really justify the hassle and privation involved in getting a shot.

I've never had one. When my kids were small it wasn't common for everyone to get  them, because the really nasty new strains of transgenic flu we have now hadn't developed. Those are the ones the shots are designed to protect against; the idea is to prevent pandemic flu, the ones that meet certain criteria both for contagion and for severity, not  to prevent people from getting some shitty but not particularly dangerous bug.

I don't work with sick people, children, or the public, so there's no really compelling reason for me to get one except that my best friend just had a baby. The current flu shot protects against three highly contagious strains that have a high mortality rate for babies, so...

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

Also, it isn't much of a hassle or a privation anymore. You go to the grocery store, hand the pharmacist $25, and they give you a shot and a coupon for a latte. At least that's how it works here.

And CPD, you are forgiven because you're young, but do please read the link LMNO posted. Herd immunity is important because it prevents disease from spreading to those who are most vulnerable, such as newborns.

Feedlot conditions have created a perfect breeding ground for some incredibly nasty flu strains in the last few years. These are not "sick in bed for a week" flus, these are strains that are killing young healthy people by sending their immune systems into overdrive. Good idea to get vaccinated if you deal with the public.

[LMNO]

Incidentally, I apologize if that sounded elitist and snarky.  Having a bad day, but that's no reason to be shitty to you.

[Cardinal Pizza Deliverance.]

Seriously?  You've never heard of that?  It's pretty much how mass vaccinations work.

Community immunity, yes. I guess even farmers don't like to think of themselves as a herd, though. Weird.

[Cardinal Pizza Deliverance.]

Also, it isn't much of a hassle or a privation anymore. You go to the grocery store, hand the pharmacist $25, and they give you a shot and a coupon for a latte. At least that's how it works here.

And CPD, you are forgiven because you're young, but do please read the link LMNO posted. Herd immunity is important because it prevents disease from spreading to those who are most vulnerable, such as newborns.

Feedlot conditions have created a perfect breeding ground for some incredibly nasty flu strains in the last few years. These are not "sick in bed for a week" flus, these are strains that are killing young healthy people by sending their immune systems into overdrive. Good idea to get vaccinated if you deal with the public.

I'm 32. I understand how mass immunization works; farmer, etc. I just never heard the term 'herd immunity' applied to people. Community immunity yeah. I thought LMNO was making a dig. 

I spend two weeks with a migraine and vomiting my guts up every time I get a flu shot, so I stopped getting them because I can't afford to miss two straight weeks of work.

[LMNO]

I like the melifluous sound of "community immunity".  I might have to start using that.

And you're exactly the person who that sort of thing benefits, so you obviously know what you're talking about.

Again, no snark intended.

[Cardinal Pizza Deliverance.]

I like the melifluous sound of "community immunity".  I might have to start using that.

And you're exactly the person who that sort of thing benefits, so you obviously know what you're talking about.

Again, no snark intended.

Yeah, no, I dig. My brain just isn't making the right connections today, apparently. I grew up on a farm and all that, I saw what happened when my uncle skipped vaccinations. In this conversation I just went from thinking about the lectures I get from people now, mostly semi-city folk and your mention of 'herd' and it skipped the track. Sorry about that.

[Reginald Ret]

I spend two weeks with a migraine and vomiting my guts up every time I get a flu shot, so I stopped getting them because I can't afford to miss two straight weeks of work.

Good call.

[Cardinal Pizza Deliverance.]

I spend two weeks with a migraine and vomiting my guts up every time I get a flu shot, so I stopped getting them because I can't afford to miss two straight weeks of work.

Good call.

I thought so.

[Telarus]

Is this something other than this year's flu, or did you not get your shots?

I got my shots.  This is the upper respiratory tract thingie going around.

Has all the hallmarks of a flu, walked right though the vaccine, kicked my ass, took my lunch.  Everyone here seems to be getting it,whether or not they had the shot.

Oh, I got that in October. That shit's no fun. I only beat it by having a vaporizer in the bedroom at night.

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

Seriously?  You've never heard of that?  It's pretty much how mass vaccinations work.

Community immunity, yes. I guess even farmers don't like to think of themselves as a herd, though. Weird.

Funny, is that the new PC term for herd immunity?

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

Also, it isn't much of a hassle or a privation anymore. You go to the grocery store, hand the pharmacist $25, and they give you a shot and a coupon for a latte. At least that's how it works here.

And CPD, you are forgiven because you're young, but do please read the link LMNO posted. Herd immunity is important because it prevents disease from spreading to those who are most vulnerable, such as newborns.

Feedlot conditions have created a perfect breeding ground for some incredibly nasty flu strains in the last few years. These are not "sick in bed for a week" flus, these are strains that are killing young healthy people by sending their immune systems into overdrive. Good idea to get vaccinated if you deal with the public.

I'm 32. I understand how mass immunization works; farmer, etc. I just never heard the term 'herd immunity' applied to people. Community immunity yeah. I thought LMNO was making a dig. 

I spend two weeks with a migraine and vomiting my guts up every time I get a flu shot, so I stopped getting them because I can't afford to miss two straight weeks of work.

32 isn't as young as I thought you are, but it's pretty young from here. Old enough though that I'm surprised you haven't heard the term herd immunity since it's the one most often used academically and in disease prevention, but hey, different communities, different strokes.

No need to be defensive; if you're a person who can't deal with immunizations, you'e exactly the person herd immunity protects.