Sandwich Argument

[Q. G. Pennyworth]

https://medium.com/@kmikeym/is-this-a-sandwich-50b1317eb3f5

I put them in pairs and instructed them to create as clear and literal a definition as they could—one that encompassed all things they knew to be sandwiches, while providing criteria for excluding all those things that were obviously not sandwiches. Furthermore, anything they were going to submit as examples of a "sandwich" also had to pass the thought experiment of imagining ordering "a sandwich" in a restaurant and being brought that thing—because after all, this is an exercise about common knowledge. We all "know" what a sandwich is. Their definition had to somehow account for this shared mental understanding. So "a bowling ball between two pieces of lettuce" would not count, for example.

This is guaranteed to result in a screaming match every time. Let's do it!

[The Wizard Joseph]

That was awesome and I must share the article with a teacher friend of mine given to philosophical arguments on FB and a fan of Socrates.

See I used to consider the taco to simply be a "Mexican sandwich". Then I discovered the torta. It had more "sandwichness" and I realized that the important "Mexican" attributes of contents and flavor were nearly identical, yet by being on a yeasty flour bun rather than a flat, unleavened tortilla my reasoning mind saw more "sandwichness". My unreasonable eating mind promptly instructed me to "shut up and eat it" in it's usual wordless fashion.

I kind of wish the "Socrates" in the article had folded the pizza over and asked if it was then a taco or asked if the (IMO already oxymoronic )vegan pepperoni was still just that once it was touching cheese.

Starting to think logocentrism is strictly for suckers.

[Q. G. Pennyworth]

A sandwich is a thing you can hold in your hand that is two flat-ish food items with at least one different food item in between, with no non-food items, and is intended to be eaten  as-is (not taken apart, eaten one piece at a time, or leaving any portion uneaten).

[The Wizard Joseph]

A sandwich is a thing you can hold in your hand that is two flat-ish food items with at least one different food item in between, with no non-food items, and is intended to be eaten  as-is (not taken apart, eaten one piece at a time, or leaving any portion uneaten).

So... if a cheap corn tortilla splits along the fold has it metamorphosed into a sandwich if it remains otherwise intact and edible?

[LMNO]

An Oreo is a sammish!

[The Wizard Joseph]

Sandwich cookie. Gonna go Google fish for "cookie sandwich".

[The Wizard Joseph]

 

ALL returns were images of either ice cream sandwiches or sandwich cookies. Not one single example of a cookie stuffed betwixt two edible things!

[LMNO]

Lasagna is a sammish!

[Q. G. Pennyworth]

Lasagna is a sammish!

Lasagna is not hand held.

[Q. G. Pennyworth]

An Oreo is a sammish!

An Oreo IS a sammich! It says so on the box!

[Q. G. Pennyworth]

A sandwich is a thing you can hold in your hand that is two flat-ish food items with at least one different food item in between, with no non-food items, and is intended to be eaten  as-is (not taken apart, eaten one piece at a time, or leaving any portion uneaten).

So... if a cheap corn tortilla splits along the fold has it metamorphosed into a sandwich if it remains otherwise intact and edible?

Yes, it is now a taco sammich.

Alternatively the definition could be modified to include intent. But I'm okay with taco sammich.

[Bruno]

So one piece of bread and a slice of bologna folded in half is not a sandwich?

[Don Coyote]

Open face sammich?

[Q. G. Pennyworth]

So one piece of bread and a slice of bologna folded in half is not a sandwich?

Not a sandwich. Unless you break the bread in half when you fold it.

Open face sammich?

NOT A SAMMICH. I WILL FIGHT YOU.

[LMNO]

Lasagna is a sammish!

Lasagna is not hand held.

You, my dear, have obviously never been stoned out of your gourd at 3am.