The Blackest Friday: 2019 holiday season / pre-election gun buying deals!!!

[rong]

9mm is usually what I reccomend to people who've not shot a gun before. Seriously you can blaze off some near rapid fire 9mm.


It doesn't pierce body armor but like it will stop a person dead in their tracks. If someone is wearing body armor then you're in a whole other world of trouble.

I got a 9mm based on some chart I saw that gave percentages of attacks stopped by the first shot of different calibers. 9mm was 80% as good as the best one on the chart, and it's about the second cheapest round after 22lr, which is good for, you know, stack'n 'm deap. I have probably 1400 rounds or so, not proper defense rounds, tho. Round nose practice rounds mostly. I think I do have like one box of defense rounds.

It's a pretty small gun, though. For someone like me who just got into shooting in the last couple of years, it's still a little unnerving having explosions going off in my hands with relatively little between me and it.

I bought my first gun about a year and a half ago. It was a Ruger 10/22, and I bought it at a gun store here in town. Shortly after, I got an M&P Shield 9mm and an M&P ar-15 which I bought online and picked up at a pawn shop in town. I think I got all three in 2018.

i liked shooting my m&p 15 so much i bought a conversion kit so i could shoot 22lr out of it (223 ammo is expensive).  i enjoyed that so much that i bought an m&p 15-22 so i can keep my regular m&p15 set up for .223 and it stays clean.  22lr ammo is kinda dirty.   

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I want to reiterate that I'm the kind of firearms geek who played milsim airsoft and has designed my own firearms, including all-new round profiles and calibers.

I want to reiterate that THE FAPPING IS PALPABLE.

In fact, it's not even really fapping at this point. There is a difference between "I am on the autism spectrum and this is my special interest" and "prepper fuckwit".

The line has been crossed.

[Doktor Howl]

I want to reiterate that I'm the kind of firearms geek who played milsim airsoft and has designed my own firearms, including all-new round profiles and calibers.

I want to reiterate that THE FAPPING IS PALPABLE.

In fact, it's not even really fapping at this point. There is a difference between "I am on the autism spectrum and this is my special interest" and "prepper fuckwit".

The line has been crossed.

Gun people are as bad as gym people, really.

[Doktor Howl]

People call guns "penis substitutes," but they're really not.  They are a fetish for people who lack power in their daily lives, and make up for it with projectile weapons and fantasies of how that will eventually make them powerful (while the rest of the population got drunk & laid, they studied the blade gun.)

In the meantime, what's actually happening is that they are spending their stored labor buying more munitions than one person could ever hope to use, guaranteeing that they will never have any power in the real world in which they inhabit, because their stored wealth is a pile of rifles and pistols that do precisely nothing to further their situation.  This makes them feel even more powerless, so it's off to the gun store again.

Rinse, repeat.

[rong]

that's a pretty broad brush you're painting with there.  I bought an m&p 15 because when I caught the porcupine that was eating my porch, I killed him with my pellet gun.  it took 12 shots and i felt really sorry for him.  then i caught the coyote that's been eating my chickens - 7 rounds and every one missed, so i do a lot of practicing with 22lr so next time i'll get him

[Doktor Howl]

that's a pretty broad brush you're painting with there.  I bought an m&p 15 because when I caught the porcupine that was eating my porch, I killed him with my pellet gun.  it took 12 shots and i felt really sorry for him.  then i caught the coyote that's been eating my chickens - 7 rounds and every one missed, so i do a lot of practicing with 22lr so next time i'll get him

Rong, I hadn't even considered you.  I haven't for 4 years.  Relax.

[Fujikoma]

I don't have a gun. There's a very simple reason for that, owning a firearm would be much more hazardous MY health than anyone or anything else's. I just don't have it in me anymore to even kill someone who deserves it. If I was in a situation where I NEEDED to use a firearm to stop someone, and I had one, I'd probably hesitate way too long and just get killed... so I can't really depend on one for self defense.

It would be more dangerous to me than anyone else because the symptoms of my mental illness would start dicking with me late one night and knowing there's a really quick fix in the pistol I keep by my bed is a recipe for disaster. So I don't own one, if society really DOES collapse and I want to survive THAT badly, I can just listen for some dope squeezing rounds off and hit them over the head with a rock and take their weapon. I prefer to deal with shitty situations without even considering firearms, or possibly killing someone. I have enough bad karma floating over me without adding more.

That said, I can understand why others might wish to own a gun, whether for doomsday prep, self defence, or dealing with troublesome wildlife. I don't judge someone for simply owning a firearm. I judge them when they walk into a wal-mart firing indiscriminately because their micropenis makes them so insecure that someone else has to die for it.

EDIT: Yes, I've fired guns and I'm a decent shot, I'm ex-infantry so at one point dumping an assload of fuck inside someone else's skull was my job. I enjoy target shooting because it's a test of skill, and something I'm not bad at.

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My interest in firearms is in three parts:

Primal. Stupid bald monkey like big boom.

Engineering. Some of them are so goddamned intricate and the piecing together of a functional firearm from first principles is like solving a puzzle box where you need to carefully mill pieces to put INTO it.

Sports. Not hunting or such, but 3 gun competition is a legitimate test of skill, and fun as hell besides.

[Doktor Howl]

I don't have a gun. There's a very simple reason for that, owning a firearm would be much more hazardous MY health than anyone or anything else's. I just don't have it in me anymore to even kill someone who deserves it. If I was in a situation where I NEEDED to use a firearm to stop someone, and I had one, I'd probably hesitate way too long and just get killed... so I can't really depend on one for self defense.

It would be more dangerous to me than anyone else because the symptoms of my mental illness would start dicking with me late one night and knowing there's a really quick fix in the pistol I keep by my bed is a recipe for disaster. So I don't own one, if society really DOES collapse and I want to survive THAT badly, I can just listen for some dope squeezing rounds off and hit them over the head with a rock and take their weapon. I prefer to deal with shitty situations without even considering firearms, or possibly killing someone. I have enough bad karma floating over me without adding more.

That said, I can understand why others might wish to own a gun, whether for doomsday prep, self defence, or dealing with troublesome wildlife. I don't judge someone for simply owning a firearm. I judge them when they walk into a wal-mart firing indiscriminately because their micropenis makes them so insecure that someone else has to die for it.

EDIT: Yes, I've fired guns and I'm a decent shot, I'm ex-infantry so at one point dumping an assload of fuck inside someone else's skull was my job. I enjoy target shooting because it's a test of skill, and something I'm not bad at.

Nothing wrong with that.  I was also infantry and I still occasionally go plinking.  Also, the shadier parts of my past.

I don't think of them as being more than, say, a hammer.  An expensive hammer.

[Bruno]

Yeah, it's making me really uncomfortable

"Every so often I think to myself "Hey man, wtf are you doing, anyway? What are you ever even going to do with all this shit? How many rounds do you really think you're going to get off before you take one to the dome? What's the plan? Do you even have a plan? Prolly nothing's gonna happen anyway." and right about then the great pumpkin comes out with some tweet dogwhistling about CIVIL WAR and shit, and I'm all like "maybe a dozen or so of those SCCY 9mms to pass out to muh friends and another couple hundred lbs of Pintos sounds like a good idea right about now."

Is a big red flag for me, Jerry, what scenario are you describing here exactly?

Because that reads like you are envisioning some last stand scenario which depending on the interpretation would place this gun thread somewhere between trigger warning (sorry, not sorry), and submit to tips.fbi.gov

The scenario I'm describing is one where people like the people who support Trump own over 80% of the guns and decide it's time to water the freedom bush, and my blood's Got What Plants Crave.

[Fujikoma]

No, only Brawndo's got what plants crave. Those people are idiots.

[Cain]

We're not allowed guns over here. However, between some Army training (though the Engineers corps prefer plastique as their primary weapon), the Scouts and growing up in the countryside, where shotguns and low calibre hunting rifles are legal (and many older guns still exist besides), I have more experience than the average British person who hasn't been in the Army.

If they were legal, I might want a handgun, for home protection. But that's about all, and not so much because I really want one, but because as recent events conspire to show, most of this country is too stupid to be trusted with any kind of dangerous implement and so if the morons are going to have them, I would need them to.

Always preferred knives anyway. Knife training was fun.

[Doktor Howl]

We're not allowed guns over here. However, between some Army training (though the Engineers corps prefer plastique as their primary weapon), the Scouts and growing up in the countryside, where shotguns and low calibre hunting rifles are legal (and many older guns still exist besides), I have more experience than the average British person who hasn't been in the Army.

If they were legal, I might want a handgun, for home protection. But that's about all, and not so much because I really want one, but because as recent events conspire to show, most of this country is too stupid to be trusted with any kind of dangerous implement and so if the morons are going to have them, I would need them to.

Always preferred knives anyway. Knife training was fun.

The best home protection is a crowbar, really.

[Bruno]

9mm is usually what I reccomend to people who've not shot a gun before. Seriously you can blaze off some near rapid fire 9mm.


It doesn't pierce body armor but like it will stop a person dead in their tracks. If someone is wearing body armor then you're in a whole other world of trouble.

I got a 9mm based on some chart I saw that gave percentages of attacks stopped by the first shot of different calibers. 9mm was 80% as good as the best one on the chart, and it's about the second cheapest round after 22lr, which is good for, you know, stack'n 'm deap. I have probably 1400 rounds or so, not proper defense rounds, tho. Round nose practice rounds mostly. I think I do have like one box of defense rounds.

It's a pretty small gun, though. For someone like me who just got into shooting in the last couple of years, it's still a little unnerving having explosions going off in my hands with relatively little between me and it.

I bought my first gun about a year and a half ago. It was a Ruger 10/22, and I bought it at a gun store here in town. Shortly after, I got an M&P Shield 9mm and an M&P ar-15 which I bought online and picked up at a pawn shop in town. I think I got all three in 2018.

i liked shooting my m&p 15 so much i bought a conversion kit so i could shoot 22lr out of it (223 ammo is expensive).  i enjoyed that so much that i bought an m&p 15-22 so i can keep my regular m&p15 set up for .223 and it stays clean.  22lr ammo is kinda dirty.

Isn't the twist rate all wrong for shooting 22lr in a 223/556 barrel anyway? Ruger 10/22s have a 1:16 twist, my ARs have 1:9 (S&W) and 1:7(PSA). I'm not sure what the consequences are for putting too much spin on a bullet is, But I've heard conversion kits for AR-15s to 22lr produce a less accurate rifle than rifles made for 22lr, or dedicated uppers with a proper barrel for 22lr.

[Bruno]

I want to reiterate that I'm the kind of firearms geek who played milsim airsoft and has designed my own firearms, including all-new round profiles and calibers.

I want to reiterate that THE FAPPING IS PALPABLE.

In fact, it's not even really fapping at this point. There is a difference between "I am on the autism spectrum and this is my special interest" and "prepper fuckwit".

The line has been crossed.

Are you referring to me, specifically, or the thread in general?

Because, in the interest of full disclosure, there is some self-satirization involved in the production of this thread, which I feel I have represented accurately in various " WTF, wat am I even doing, I don't even..." related themes presented.

This is presented as an affirmation of your emotion rather than a contradiction.