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another sign the machine is rotting

Started by LHX, December 10, 2005, 04:34:18 PM

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LHX

December 10, 2005, 04:34:18 PM
the machine relies on being able to control people

the machine is driving people insane thru entertainment and drugs (of all sorts - mental / physical)

insane people cannot be controlled


thus
the machine contributes to its demise
and
the demise of the machine is imminent

and messy
neat hell

The Good Reverend Roger

#1
December 10, 2005, 05:15:41 PM
Quote from: LHXthe machine relies on being able to control people

the machine is driving people insane thru entertainment and drugs (of all sorts - mental / physical)

insane people cannot be controlled


thus
the machine contributes to its demise
and
the demise of the machine is imminent

and messy

Meh.  That's happened many, many times before.  And The Machine(tm) waits patiently for things to stabilize, and then subverts and dominates the new paradigm.

Historical examples upon request.
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

Cain

#2
December 10, 2005, 05:50:08 PM
Insane people can be controlled...with the right drugs and stimuli.  Also, all these crazy people running about the place are just another excuse for more control from on high.

Cain

#3
December 10, 2005, 06:18:20 PM
Yep, but only by people who had as irrational inputs as those who they ordered to be killed.  Its far better to find a use for them, a threat, leverage...as every good leader knows, its fear that controls the people.  Of who is nearly irrelevant, so long as the outcome can be manipulated...

Cain

#4
December 10, 2005, 06:24:39 PM
Nope, just manipulation.  Its predetermined buttons and reactions, press A and get B.  Rarely ever fails either, because its built on a basic element of human nature.  Machiavelli was smart, but that fascist scumbag Carl Schmidt (and by extension, Nietzsche) hit the nail on the head.

The Good Reverend Roger

#5
December 10, 2005, 06:46:22 PM
Quote from: CainNope, just manipulation.  Its predetermined buttons and reactions, press A and get B.  Rarely ever fails either, because its built on a basic element of human nature.  Machiavelli was smart, but that fascist scumbag Carl Schmidt (and by extension, Nietzsche) hit the nail on the head.

For example, giving them a "choice" between two "opposing" political parties...
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

Cain

#6
December 10, 2005, 06:47:32 PM
Thats one of the old good ones, yeah.  Control the choices was the favourite trick of Henry Kissinger, for example.

The Good Reverend Roger

#7
December 10, 2005, 06:51:03 PM
Quote from: CainThats one of the old good ones, yeah.  Control the choices was the favourite trick of Henry Kissinger, for example.

Ah, good old Henry...stuck by The Man, til the bitter end.

After The Machine cast Nixon aside, Henry and Dick would wander the halls of the White House, swilling gin and begging the portraits of presidents past for guidance.

Nixon went down, of course, in the end, and Kissinger was left to bitterly curse John Dean, out in the desert.

Needless to say, I have a soft spot for the man.
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

Cain

#8
December 10, 2005, 06:52:31 PM
He understood power incredibly well, which was most of the problem really.

The Good Reverend Roger

#9
December 10, 2005, 06:53:40 PM
Quote from: CainHe understood power incredibly well, which was most of the problem really.

Problem?

TGRR,
Doesn't understand.
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

Cain

#10
December 10, 2005, 06:55:15 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger
Quote from: CainHe understood power incredibly well, which was most of the problem really.

Problem?

TGRR,
Doesn't understand.

Well, I say problem, you say good times, one normally leads to the other if given time anyway...

The Good Reverend Roger

#11
December 10, 2005, 07:03:34 PM
Quote from: Cain
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger
Quote from: CainHe understood power incredibly well, which was most of the problem really.

Problem?

TGRR,
Doesn't understand.

Well, I say problem, you say good times, one normally leads to the other if given time anyway...

NOBODY is allowed to have fun anymore.

Hell, you get caught with a few grams of smallpox, and they throw you in jail.

What the HELL is going on in this country?
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

LHX

#12
December 10, 2005, 07:22:46 PM
how do any historical examples accomodate the intranet?


also
who are the younger people able to escape the drug-induced insanity coming into replace the current people in power?

reagan got alzheimers
bush look like he crackin down
neat hell

Cain

#13
December 10, 2005, 07:23:56 PM
The communications revolution is vastly overrated when you take into account how many people actually have access to it.

The Good Reverend Roger

#14
December 10, 2005, 07:25:30 PM
Quote from: LHXhow do any historical examples accomodate the intranet?


also
who are the younger people able to escape the drug-induced insanity coming into replace the current people in power?

reagan got alzheimers
bush look like he crackin down

Hehehe...so, 1 million bitter fatasses are going to have a revolution?

:lol:

No, they'll just sit around and TALK about it.

The Machine ALWAYS wins.
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.
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