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Started by The Good Reverend Roger, June 12, 2006, 11:12:56 PM

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Cramulus

I put up a shit-ton of the 11x17 versions in the White Plains Business District today.

The White Plains Lunch Cabal REP. RE. SENTS.

Kaienne

The problem I've encountered with a lot of really confrontational guerilla philosophy is that when you start forcing someone to realize that everything they've build their entire life around has been a waste, and a torturous one at that, they start disagreeing with you simply out of principle; they take your words of enlightenment as an insult to them, their life and what they've done with it. Once you reach that point, it becomes significantly harder to shake them out of their shells, because now not only are they dealing with getting over the fact that they've wasted their life, but now they've made a mental association between the philosopher and someone insulting or mean.
In a constant state of losing The Game.

Sir Squid Diddimus

but every once in a while, not often, you can make someone stop and go

"shit...... this sucks" and if theyre the right kind of human worm baby OR a little guy (like me) maybe, just maybe, theyll do something to change .... something.

you never know.

i even got in a semi argument w/ a friend of mine last night cause i was talking about cost of living vs. the pay here. she agreed but didnt want to do anything to change anything.
you know, dont rock the boat.(or just too fucking lazy) made me wanna kick her in the funt.

Kaienne

It's definitely worded properly that, if shown to the right person, will tip their boat and get them swimming. As Morpheus put it, though, "[M]any are so hopelessly dependent on the system that they will fight to protect it."
In a constant state of losing The Game.

Sir Squid Diddimus

cause they cant think enough for themselves to adapt to change.

this is why i love math(word problems) and science. they promote critical/creative thinking.

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Quote from: Kaienne on September 27, 2007, 08:49:00 PM
The problem I've encountered with a lot of really confrontational guerilla philosophy is that when you start forcing someone to realize that everything they've build their entire life around has been a waste, and a torturous one at that, they start disagreeing with you simply out of principle; they take your words of enlightenment as an insult to them, their life and what they've done with it. Once you reach that point, it becomes significantly harder to shake them out of their shells, because now not only are they dealing with getting over the fact that they've wasted their life, but now they've made a mental association between the philosopher and someone insulting or mean.

You're trying to speak for a huge demographic and utterly missing the point.

What you don't seem to understand is that by insulting people we capture attention. I don't think most people take this personally, you whiny hippie. I think a lot of people will just think this doesn't apply to them and read it from an amused 3rd party standpoint until they reflect on it or have a realization on their way to their cubicle weeks later.

Another possibility is that if someone DOES identify as the chump then all they need to do to release themselves this uncomfortable identity is to start doing things they care about or enjoy.

BOO HOO! ROGER IS SO MEAN!
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P E R   A S P E R A   A D   A S T R A

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Quote from: Professor Cramulus on September 27, 2007, 08:24:09 PM
I put up a shit-ton of the 11x17 versions in the White Plains Business District today.

The White Plains Lunch Cabal REP. RE. SENTS.

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P E R   A S P E R A   A D   A S T R A

AFK

Besides, no one's forcing anyone to do anything. 

They read it or they don't read it.
If they read it and are offended, fuck em if they can't see the joke they are in. 

Cynicism is a blank check for failure.

Kaienne

Quote from: Netaungrot on September 27, 2007, 09:10:11 PM
Another possibility is that if someone DOES identify as the chump then all they need to do to release themselves this uncomfortable identity is to start doing things they care about or enjoy.

But they won't, though. If they were capable of doing so they'd have done it already. Normalicy and under-the-radar behavior are deemed sacred in common society, and as soon as you call someone out, they scramble back into hiding like a roach in sunlight. The only way to force someone's eyes open is if you monitor them and keep on them, and keep on them, and keep on them. Otherwise they'll allow themselves to forget the incident ever happened and continue along with their cublicle job.
In a constant state of losing The Game.

AFK

I think that's overly general.  Sure, some people aren't going to want to make waves.  While others will.  Yet, others may start to explore different ideas, and different ways to think about things.  Like a seed was planted.  Besides, the goal isn't overnight revolution.  Things have to happen in steps.  Pieces like the OP offer a first step.  People can take it or not.  But if you don't draw attention to the stairwell, they'll never know its there. 
Cynicism is a blank check for failure.

Kaienne

Well, I can't argue with that.
In a constant state of losing The Game.

Cramulus

There is no "one best approach"

you'll get some people being inviting and friendly
you'll get some people being harsh and confrontational

if you ask me, the "best approach" is a full-spectrum attack. I've put up hundreds of flyers this year. Most of them are nice, light, and funny. Some of them are rude, callous, heavy, or challenging. My motion is to approach from all angles, rather than just hoping I'm hitting the pedestrian's one psychic weak spot.

Sir Squid Diddimus

and well when you think about it

ya cant say that nobody will ever be affected by anything you do to try to make change.

look at us. and those who think like us.
theres plenty of us thinkin outside the cubicle.

Cramulus

Quote from: Cthulhu's Squidling on September 27, 2007, 09:38:07 PM
and well when you think about it

ya cant say that nobody will ever be affected by anything you do to try to make change.

look at us. and those who think like us.
theres plenty of us thinkin outside the cubicle.

*looks around*

and (literally) thinking inside the cubicle as well.  :p

AFK

Even if you have a 5% conversion rate, that's something. 

edit:  when I say conversion, I don't literally mean converting to Discordianism.  Whatever that means. 
Cynicism is a blank check for failure.