Janvier's condensed crap.

[LMNO]

Einsturzende Neubauten embodies the concept of Creative Destruction.

[Payne]

Einsturzende Neubauten embodies the concept of Creative Destruction.

Thanks for the introduction LMNO.

[LMNO]

http://trouserpress.com/entry.php?a=einsturzende_neubauten

A good history up until 1993.  Their later works (Silence is Sexy, Ende Neu, and Jewels) are, for the most part, highly restrained and delicate stuff.

They have 3 "best of" albums, from the various points of their career: Volumes I, II, and II of Strategies Against Architecture.  Those are great starting points, if you're really interested.

[Payne]

Excellent, I'll check it out!

[Janvier]

First off, I fixed your retarded attempt at BBS code.

Joey Ramone.

I've never really listened to punk out of fear of becoming a smelly ill-dressed vegan with a mutilated body and shit for brains.

Wow, that's too bad.  I listen to punk, and I am a well-groomed omnivore with a tattoo and graduated with a 3.7 GPA.

Too bad about that fear you got.

How about some intellectually challenging music?

Thanks.  I'll take a listen to that when I get home.

Well, I listened to it.  I'm wondering where you got the idea that it was intellectually challenging.

Kinda clever?  Yeah, I suppose.  It's a mock country western song about Marshall McLuhan ("Marshall," get it?), but it really doesn't offer any challenge.  Even if you can't grasp the meaning of the quotes they lift off him, you don't have to.  The joke is the juxtaposition of borderline post-modern gibberish against a "Rawhide"-esque melody.

I thought for sure you were gonna lay something like this snazzy little number on me.  I mean, if we're talking about challenging most of the traditions of the musical canon, that is.


But all in all, you really missed what I was saying about Joey Ramone, and how it actually answered your question perfectly.


I know, I know; you're just a troll trying to get a rise out of a bunch of Discordians.  And you did manage to piss some off.  But that's not hard.  Around here, Discordians get pissed off at a bunch of things.  It's much, much harder to get them to respect you.  More rewarding, too.

At least we've learned you drop the Joycean bullshit when you get angry.  I think you should do that more; it clarifies your writing.

It's intellectually challenging because it contains philosophy O:
The joke is that when someone questions McLuhan, he shoots them.
Fuck Germany. Hitler is old meme now.
No I did not miss it. Good boy, here's a cookie.
But isn't everyone a Discordian  even me?
I haven't actually read a single word by Joyce. He's been recommended to me several times though.

[LMNO]

Wow.  Failtroll is Fail.

[Faust]

5

[Janvier]

Wow.  Failtroll is Fail.

Where did you lose faith[tm]?

[Janvier]

5

You might just have a point.

[Darth Cupcake]

[Cain]

Cheers, Rog.

[Ratonderio]

The sophists also "played dumb" (Socrates) in order to lead the person they were communicating with towards a desired result.  They actually lead the conversation by seemingly innocous chatter until the person had discovered something about themselves through the sophists unknown guidance. The sophist in turn may have learned something from the person he was speaking to and it became beneficial to both parties to partake in these conversations.

You fit the description of the modern day sophist. The modern day sophist "plays smart" and is unwilling to learn anything from the person they are speaking to and boasts their superior intellect with no actual evidence as to why they are superior.  The modern day sophist is a leach to society.  They allow for no contribution and as much as they want to teach others to free their minds, they are completely unwilling to do so themselves.  To say you're more intelligent than a person provides the opposite.

I'm just saying. If you want to continue to surround cliches with drivel and suspect that it's art then be my guest.  I'm no more intelligent than you, but the same goes in reverse.  The difference is I listen when people speak before I choose to reject it or accept it is a logical argument and I stay unabrasive.

But this is teh intranetz. You can do whatever you want here.

[Darth Cupcake]

The sophists also "played dumb" (Socrates) in order to lead the person they were communicating with towards a desired result.  They actually lead the conversation by seemingly innocous chatter until the person had discovered something about themselves through the sophists unknown guidance. The sophist in turn may have learned something from the person he was speaking to and it became beneficial to both parties to partake in these conversations.

You fit the description of the modern day sophist. The modern day sophist "plays smart" and is unwilling to learn anything from the person they are speaking to and boasts their superior intellect with no actual evidence as to why they are superior.  The modern day sophist is a leach to society.  They allow for no contribution and as much as they want to teach others to free their minds, they are completely unwilling to do so themselves.  To say you're more intelligent than a person provides the opposite.

I'm just saying. If you want to continue to surround cliches with drivel and suspect that it's art then be my guest.  I'm no more intelligent than you, but the same goes in reverse.  The difference is I listen when people speak before I choose to reject it or accept it is a logical argument and I stay unabrasive.

But this is teh intranetz. You can do whatever you want here.

I don't know who you are, or where you came from... But you can have these.

[The Good Reverend Roger]

Cheers, Rog.

No problem.  You knew Tentasticle was gonna come back.  It was just a matter of time before someone had to mop up his drivel.

[The Good Reverend Roger]

The sophists also "played dumb" (Socrates) in order to lead the person they were communicating with towards a desired result.  They actually lead the conversation by seemingly innocous chatter until the person had discovered something about themselves through the sophists unknown guidance. The sophist in turn may have learned something from the person he was speaking to and it became beneficial to both parties to partake in these conversations.

You fit the description of the modern day sophist. The modern day sophist "plays smart" and is unwilling to learn anything from the person they are speaking to and boasts their superior intellect with no actual evidence as to why they are superior.  The modern day sophist is a leach to society.  They allow for no contribution and as much as they want to teach others to free their minds, they are completely unwilling to do so themselves.  To say you're more intelligent than a person provides the opposite.

I'm just saying. If you want to continue to surround cliches with drivel and suspect that it's art then be my guest.  I'm no more intelligent than you, but the same goes in reverse.  The difference is I listen when people speak before I choose to reject it or accept it is a logical argument and I stay unabrasive.

But this is teh intranetz. You can do whatever you want here.