Ancient Greeks and Eris

[the last yatto]

Ill see if i cant dig up more books and find things 
edit: apple talk = derail doesnt it 

'because Hercules had been through the area earlier and killed it.'
if he killed the dragon then the whole story of Atlas doesnt make sense
edit: unless it happen later oops

"Sure, you can have an apple. I can go get it for you from my orchard, the dragon cannot hurt me. If you just hold this burden for me, i will go get the apple." So Hercules took the heavens onto his shoulders

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Twelve_Labours

Slay the Nemean Lion and bring back its hide.
Slay the 9-headed Lernaean Hydra.
Capture the Golden Stag of Artemis.
Capture the Erymanthian Boar.
Clean the Augean stables in a single day.
Slay the Stymphalian Birds.
Capture the Cretan Bull.
Steal the Mares of Diomedes.
Obtain the Girdle of the Amazon warrior queen Hippolyte.
Obtain the Cattle of the Monster Geryon.
Steal the Apples of the Hesperides, which were strictly guarded by a 100-headed dragon called Ladon.
Capture Cerberus, the guardian dog of Hades, using no weapons and bring him back.



same mountain blog

A long time ago, Atlas' wife, Phoebe brought the golden tree that bore golden fruit to their orchard. And Atlas was told a prophecy, that one of the sons of his enemy Zeus would come to steal the golden tree from him. Atlas, understandably, was not very keen on the family of Zeus having his best treasure. So one day, as Atlas was kickin' it high on the ridge with the heavens on his shoulders, Perseus, son of Zeus, arrived. Now, Perseus was not out to steal Atlas' tree, he was just really tired and hungry and in need of a place to stay... after all, he had just fought and beheaded Medusa. Atlas, thinking this was the thief of the oracle, refused him. Perseus was irritable, being tired and hungry, and got really mad at Atlas. He grabbed Medusa's head from his bag, and averting his eyes, he held it up to Atlas. When Atlas looked at it, he turned into stone... the stone that is Mt Atlas. And upon the shoulders of this mountain, all the stars and the heavens are held.

[The Good Reverend Roger]

Ill see if i cant dig up more books and find things

Shut up, asswipe. 

If you feel the need to derail everyone elses' threads/posts, then you aren't going to be able to enjoy an conversation, either, shitheels.

[Bebek Sincap Ratatosk]

True, but not long before the Trojan war.  A single generation if memory serves me.

I'm going to do a little digging because I'm almost positive Heracles was a member of the Argonauts early on, and so was Peleus.  So, depending on whether Peleus was already married when he went on that voyage, the dragon may not have been dead for his wedding...

Hercules killed the dragon before sailing with Jason (all of his tasks were completed before the Golden Fleece adventure). The Argonauts adventure predated the Trojan war, thus Peleus was still a bachelor during the trip. That means Eris could have stolen the apple without worrying about the Dragon.

[hooplala]

Well, there you go.

[Cain]

Peleus was actually married twice before.  I was having trouble figuring out which time he married Thetis, which was making my work harder (it was the third time).

[hooplala]

Really!  I did not know that.

[Cain]

Oh no, my mistake.  That was the Acastus business.

I really should read mythology once I've had a proper night's sleep.

[Bebek Sincap Ratatosk]

Thetis was his second wife (and maybe his third depending on which myth you follow). Antigone was the first and she killed herself for some reason I don't remember.

[hooplala]

That's not Oedipus's daughter Antigone, though, is she?

[Cain]

That's not Oedipus's daughter Antigone, though, is she?

No, its the other one.

[Bebek Sincap Ratatosk]

No, she is Achilles Mom, I think...


EDIT: Err, no she isn't. Thetis is Achiles Mom, Antigone died childless.

Hung herself, because some bitch sent her a letter telling her that her husband was gonna marry someone else.

[Cain]

No, she is Achilles Mom, I think...

Achilles mother was Thetis.  Antigone, in this case, is the daughter of Eurytion.

[Bebek Sincap Ratatosk]

No, she is Achilles Mom, I think...

Achilles mother was Thetis.  Antigone, in this case, is the daughter of Eurytion.

Yes... I had to fix it.

That's what I get for dredging up Greek myth while on  a conference call

[Telarus]

Bump.


While running various terms through teh Google looking for Buzz about Intermittens, I ran across this dude:
Sperone Speroni
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sperone_Speroni

While digging through some random descriptions on a Library/Archivist site, I ran across the fact that among his works is included one "Dialog On Discord" in which the Goddess Discordia argues that Strife/Discord is necessary for human advancement.

   

And now I can't find _any_ translated copy of the Damn Thing. I find it reallt interesting that a 16th century Italian would use HER as one of his mouthpieces.

Your Mission: Help me find a copy of "On Discord by Sperone Speroni" in English

Cain, I know you have a few articles in the works right now, so you are excused from this mission FOR NOW (I think you may have the best university resources for this, but as I said, finish that other stuff first).

[hooplala]

Telarus, you just blew my mind!