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Started by hooplala, November 05, 2008, 04:48:27 PM

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I am a big fan of his work on my daughter's favorite show Yo Gabba Gabba. 
Cynicism is a blank check for failure.

Bebek Sincap Ratatosk

Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on November 06, 2008, 06:23:33 PM
I am a big fan of his work on my daughter's favorite show Yo Gabba Gabba. 

OSHI, that explains a lot about that show.
- I don't see race. I just see cars going around in a circle.

"Back in my day, crazy meant something. Now everyone is crazy" - Charlie Manson

hooplala

Quote from: Ratatosk on November 06, 2008, 05:53:54 PMThe closest thing Discordianism had to a 'leader' was probably RAW and he was far more interested in his own ideas and philosophies than in maintaining a active national scene as Stang has.

I love RAW to death, but he was more often than not latching on to other people's ideas and re-packaging them. 
"Soon all of us will have special names" — Professor Brian O'Blivion

"Now's not the time to get silly, so wear your big boots and jump on the garbage clowns." — Bob Dylan?

"Do I contradict myself?
Very well then I contradict myself,
(I am large, I contain multitudes.)"
— Walt Whitman

Bebek Sincap Ratatosk

Quote from: Hoopla on November 06, 2008, 06:58:47 PM
Quote from: Ratatosk on November 06, 2008, 05:53:54 PMThe closest thing Discordianism had to a 'leader' was probably RAW and he was far more interested in his own ideas and philosophies than in maintaining a active national scene as Stang has.

I love RAW to death, but he was more often than not latching on to other people's ideas and re-packaging them. 

Well, I had meant that in the sense that he was more interested in his own agenda of ideas and philosophies, not that he was popping out completely new and unique ideas.

Besides, I think mosbunal philosophy is "latching on to other people's ideas and re-packaging them" ;-)

- I don't see race. I just see cars going around in a circle.

"Back in my day, crazy meant something. Now everyone is crazy" - Charlie Manson

The Dark Monk

I thought this is all there is,
but now I know you are so much more.
I want to upgrade from my simple eight bits,
but will you still love me when I'm sixty-four?
~MIAB~

Manta Obscura

Everything I wish for myself, I wish for you also.

The Dark Monk

You need to watch more South Park.
Basically the joke is "The Simpsons have been around longer than anything/anyone and anything you do, the Simpsons already did"
I thought this is all there is,
but now I know you are so much more.
I want to upgrade from my simple eight bits,
but will you still love me when I'm sixty-four?
~MIAB~

Manta Obscura

Quote from: TheScarletReaper on November 06, 2008, 07:56:50 PM
You need to watch more South Park.
Basically the joke is "The Simpsons have been around longer than anything/anyone and anything you do, the Simpsons already did"

Yeah, I recognized the reference, but I did not see how it was related to the posts that had been made. It was just sort of a left-field comment to my work-addled brain. But I guess, on second viewing, there is a tangential relation between that statement and the idea of RAW repackaging ideas. Unless I'm missing some other, more esoteric reference here.
Everything I wish for myself, I wish for you also.

shadowfurry23

Quote from: Cramulus on November 05, 2008, 07:19:53 PM
Yeah, the negativity is core what repelled me.

Most of the time, I think the universe is actually a pretty cool place. It's exciting, dynamic, funny, and awesome. I believe that cabbages are generally well-meaning people until they inherit the curse of Greyface. I get the sense that Subgenii disagree - and they love to fuck over all those people.

Also, humans are flawed beings, and I'm a human so I'm no different. I'm certainly not a hippie by any measure, but I'm generally pretty "I'm okay you're okay". Most Subgenii I've met have been very "I'm okay, you're a piece of shit." I just think it's a waste of energy to be so pissed off and negative all the time. I can get just as much done but with a way lower bloodpressure.

That's pretty close to my feelings on it, though I'm probably more of a hippy depending on how you define hippy - I shower regularly, and I gots no hair on my noggin (lots elsewhere tho).

I found BotSB a scream and was very into it for a while, but the PD has more 'staying power' as an overall philosophy for my money; I'm happy to call Discordianism my religion and will cheerfully explain it to folks, which I can't see doing as a Subgenii.  Money was a part of it too - for some reason the focus on money was a weird turn-off to me.  That and a definitive apocalypse day, which now makes BotSG terribly dated IMO.  Discordianism I find more easy-going, and I'm an easy-going kind of guy.  I'm also easy, but that goes along with being a guy.

I've always thought of SubGenii as being to Discordians as Christians are to Jews.  Take from that what you will - I do.

Quote from: Ratatosk on November 06, 2008, 05:53:54 PM
My personal categorization goes likethis:

The Erisian sees the Cabbage and hopes it will become Human.
The Discordian sees the Cabbage and figures it might become human, or might not... but either way it will be good for some laughs.
The Sub Genius sees that Cabbage and makes Cole Slaw.

I had no idea there was a differentiation between Erisian and Discordian - I've been using them interchangably.  I believe I shall use that little 'Search' field up thar to further enlighten myself.
This play, however, is an affirmation of life—not an attempt to bring order out of chaos nor to suggest improvements in creation, but simply a way of waking up to the very life we're living, which is so excellent once one gets one's mind and one's desires out of its way and lets it act of its own accord. - John Cage

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Quote from: shadowfist23 on November 06, 2008, 08:16:09 PM
Quote from: Cramulus on November 05, 2008, 07:19:53 PM
Yeah, the negativity is core what repelled me.

Most of the time, I think the universe is actually a pretty cool place. It's exciting, dynamic, funny, and awesome. I believe that cabbages are generally well-meaning people until they inherit the curse of Greyface. I get the sense that Subgenii disagree - and they love to fuck over all those people.

Also, humans are flawed beings, and I'm a human so I'm no different. I'm certainly not a hippie by any measure, but I'm generally pretty "I'm okay you're okay". Most Subgenii I've met have been very "I'm okay, you're a piece of shit." I just think it's a waste of energy to be so pissed off and negative all the time. I can get just as much done but with a way lower bloodpressure.

That's pretty close to my feelings on it, though I'm probably more of a hippy depending on how you define hippy - I shower regularly, and I gots no hair on my noggin (lots elsewhere tho).

I found BotSB a scream and was very into it for a while, but the PD has more 'staying power' as an overall philosophy for my money; I'm happy to call Discordianism my religion and will cheerfully explain it to folks, which I can't see doing as a Subgenii.  Money was a part of it too - for some reason the focus on money was a weird turn-off to me.  That and a definitive apocalypse day, which now makes BotSG terribly dated IMO.  Discordianism I find more easy-going, and I'm an easy-going kind of guy.  I'm also easy, but that goes along with being a guy.

I've always thought of SubGenii as being to Discordians as Christians are to Jews.  Take from that what you will - I do.

Quote from: Ratatosk on November 06, 2008, 05:53:54 PM
My personal categorization goes likethis:

The Erisian sees the Cabbage and hopes it will become Human.
The Discordian sees the Cabbage and figures it might become human, or might not... but either way it will be good for some laughs.
The Sub Genius sees that Cabbage and makes Cole Slaw.

I had no idea there was a differentiation between Erisian and Discordian - I've been using them interchangably.  I believe I shall use that little 'Search' field up thar to further enlighten myself.


I think the Discordians SubGenii that are really really into the "I'm OK, YOu're a piece of Shit" are about like the Discordians that run about saying  LOL23PINEALFNORD... they get the first joke, and miss the underlying one. There's a famous SubG quote "Fuck em, if they can't take a joke." In the last book released, in a rant about SubG's, the new quote is "Fuck em, if they can't tell a joke".

Also, X Day is coming this year... its not dated at all. *looks at calendar...*Oh I mean, X Day is really coming NEXT year... its not dated at all. ;-)


Also, Erisian/Discordian is sometimes the same and sometimes different, depending on the whim of the speaker ;-)
- I don't see race. I just see cars going around in a circle.

"Back in my day, crazy meant something. Now everyone is crazy" - Charlie Manson

hooplala

"Soon all of us will have special names" — Professor Brian O'Blivion

"Now's not the time to get silly, so wear your big boots and jump on the garbage clowns." — Bob Dylan?

"Do I contradict myself?
Very well then I contradict myself,
(I am large, I contain multitudes.)"
— Walt Whitman

The Dark Monk

Whens the next Prickle Prickle btw?
I thought this is all there is,
but now I know you are so much more.
I want to upgrade from my simple eight bits,
but will you still love me when I'm sixty-four?
~MIAB~

hooplala

I ignore that calendar, and made up my own instead.
"Soon all of us will have special names" — Professor Brian O'Blivion

"Now's not the time to get silly, so wear your big boots and jump on the garbage clowns." — Bob Dylan?

"Do I contradict myself?
Very well then I contradict myself,
(I am large, I contain multitudes.)"
— Walt Whitman

Cramulus


The Dark Monk

Quote from: Hoopla on November 06, 2008, 09:53:53 PM
I ignore that calendar, and made up my own instead.

Must hear teh hooplar calandar.
I thought this is all there is,
but now I know you are so much more.
I want to upgrade from my simple eight bits,
but will you still love me when I'm sixty-four?
~MIAB~