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God Does Not Remove the Terror of Science!!!!

Started by Prelate Diogenes Shandor, March 12, 2009, 12:07:29 AM

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Prelate Diogenes Shandor

March 12, 2009, 12:07:29 AM
:fnord: :fnord: God Does Not Remove the Terror of Science!!!! :fnord: :fnord:

Many people cling to the belief of a divine (or, in the case of some cults, alien) creator with the idea that if this creator is real, then it will somehow make the world "meaningful" or somehow "explain" existence. Well, i don't know what to believe, but I know that the existence or non-existence of God won't change the meaninglessness of our existence one bit either way!


Are "the Sims" meaningful?!? They had an intelligent creator!!!!!
A divine creator doesn't solve anything, it just moves it somewhere else! So what if God created the universe? So what if we were made for a reason? Where did the creator come from?!? What is his reason?!?!?!?!?.

Sooner or later everything boils down to something arbitrary! Everything falls apart, either one way, or another! A meaningless creator does not a meaningful universe make! GOD DOES NOT REMOVE THE TERROR OF SCIENCE!!!!!
Praise NHGH! For the tribulation of all sentient beings.

a plague on both your houses -Mercutio

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He who fights with monsters must take care lest he thereby become a monster -Nietzsche

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The Good Reverend Roger

#1
March 12, 2009, 01:33:55 AM
I believe in a God.  Several, actually, depending on my state of mind (and whether or not I'm all fucked up on sleeping pills).  However, I do not look to them for "meaning", because they're just going to eat us all, anyway.  This is why I never pray...you never know what's listening. 

That's their reason.  We're like Doritos for the Gods. 
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

The Good Reverend Roger

#2
March 12, 2009, 01:34:36 AM
Quote from: lumberjim on March 12, 2009, 12:18:54 AM
If there were a 'creator' and it wanted it's meaning known, it would be known. 

They don't want their meanings known.  Never assume a deity is benevolent.
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

Cainad (dec.)

#3
March 12, 2009, 04:54:46 AM
:mittens: to the OP, for expressing exactly what I think of the whole mess.


Them: "But without God, life is just a meaningless nothing! How can anyone live like that?"
Me: :?

Lies

#4
March 12, 2009, 12:42:22 PM
Good shit dude.
Short, but sweet and hits hard.

:mittens:
- So the New World Order does not actually exist?
- Oh it exists, and how!
Ask the slaves whose labour built the White House;
Ask the slaves of today tied down to sweatshops and brothels to escape hunger;
Ask most women, second class citizens, in a pervasive rape culture;
Ask the non-human creatures who inhabit the planet:
whales, bears, frogs, tuna, bees, slaughtered farm animals;
Ask the natives of the Americas and Australia on whose land
you live today, on whose graves your factories, farms and neighbourhoods stand;
ask any of them this, ask them if the New World Order is true;
they'll tell you plainly: the New World Order... is you!

P3nT4gR4m

#5
March 12, 2009, 12:45:43 PM
Cool position, I can relate but what's with the "terror" of science? I just don't get the terror factor.

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The Good Reverend Roger

#6
March 12, 2009, 02:38:18 PM
Quote from: P3nT4gR4m on March 12, 2009, 12:45:43 PM
Cool position, I can relate but what's with the "terror" of science? I just don't get the terror factor.

I think it was a play on the Subgenius Dictum "Science does not remove the terror of the Gods".
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

Prelate Diogenes Shandor

#7
March 12, 2009, 04:01:44 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on March 12, 2009, 02:38:18 PM
Quote from: P3nT4gR4m on March 12, 2009, 12:45:43 PM
Cool position, I can relate but what's with the "terror" of science? I just don't get the terror factor.

I think it was a play on the Subgenius Dictum "Science does not remove the terror of the Gods".

It is indeed a reference to that aphorism, but it is also a reference to many people's aversions to the implications of many scientific concepts and ideas (evolution, thermodynamics, reductionism (especially as applied to biology and psychology), the big bang/cosmology, et cetera), and the general idea/implication that humanity (and, indeed, the universe itself) is just a coincidence and has not been afforded any special role or status in the cosmos
Praise NHGH! For the tribulation of all sentient beings.

a plague on both your houses -Mercutio

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zrTGgpWmdZQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rVWd7nPjJH8

It is an unfortunate fact that every man who seeks to disseminate knowledge must contend not only against ignorance itself, but against false instruction as well. No sooner do we deem ourselves free from a particularly gross superstition, than we are confronted by some enemy to learning who would plunge us back into the darkness -H.P.Lovecraft

He who fights with monsters must take care lest he thereby become a monster -Nietzsche

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SHhrZgojY1Q

You are a fluke of the universe, and whether you can hear it of not the universe is laughing behind your back -Deteriorata

Don't use the email address in my profile, I lost the password years ago

The Good Reverend Roger

#8
March 12, 2009, 04:04:13 PM
Quote from: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on March 12, 2009, 04:01:44 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on March 12, 2009, 02:38:18 PM
Quote from: P3nT4gR4m on March 12, 2009, 12:45:43 PM
Cool position, I can relate but what's with the "terror" of science? I just don't get the terror factor.

I think it was a play on the Subgenius Dictum "Science does not remove the terror of the Gods".

It is indeed a reference to that aphorism, but it is also a reference to many people's aversions to the implications of many scientific concepts and ideas (evolution, thermodynamics, reductionism (especially as applied to biology and psychology), the big bang/cosmology, et cetera), and the general idea/implication that humanity (and, indeed, the universe itself) is just a coincidence and has not been afforded any special role or status in the cosmos

That isn't what scares the fundies.  What scares the fundies is that someone, somewhere, might have a good time.
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

Prelate Diogenes Shandor

#9
March 12, 2009, 04:14:05 PM
The end of my reply a couple of posts ago got cut off. Here is the complete version:

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Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on March 12, 2009, 02:38:18 PM
Quote from: P3nT4gR4m on March 12, 2009, 12:45:43 PM
Cool position, I can relate but what's with the "terror" of science? I just don't get the terror factor.

I think it was a play on the Subgenius Dictum "Science does not remove the terror of the Gods".

It is indeed a reference to that aphorism, but it is also a reference to many people's aversions to the implications of many scientific concepts and ideas (evolution, thermodynamics, reductionism (especially as applied to biology and psychology), the big bang/cosmology, et cetera), and the general idea/implication that humanity (and, indeed, the universe itself) is just a coincidence and has not been afforded any special role or status in the cosmos.

Most people would rather believe that we were put here for some purpose and that we have a special unique place in the cosmic order; that we weren't a coincidence (it is this desire for purpose which is mocked by SubGenius scripture when it claims that we were created in response to a bar-bet or that we were created as a joke. It is also mocked at various times in the novels of H.P.Lovecraft, such as when the protagonists of At the mountains of Madness discover that all Earthly life evolved from the Elder Things' garbage). This is not however, what science assumes; It generally, in fact, assumes just the opposite.
Praise NHGH! For the tribulation of all sentient beings.

a plague on both your houses -Mercutio

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zrTGgpWmdZQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rVWd7nPjJH8

It is an unfortunate fact that every man who seeks to disseminate knowledge must contend not only against ignorance itself, but against false instruction as well. No sooner do we deem ourselves free from a particularly gross superstition, than we are confronted by some enemy to learning who would plunge us back into the darkness -H.P.Lovecraft

He who fights with monsters must take care lest he thereby become a monster -Nietzsche

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SHhrZgojY1Q

You are a fluke of the universe, and whether you can hear it of not the universe is laughing behind your back -Deteriorata

Don't use the email address in my profile, I lost the password years ago

Prelate Diogenes Shandor

#10
March 12, 2009, 04:17:49 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on March 12, 2009, 04:04:13 PM
Quote from: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on March 12, 2009, 04:01:44 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on March 12, 2009, 02:38:18 PM
Quote from: P3nT4gR4m on March 12, 2009, 12:45:43 PM
Cool position, I can relate but what's with the "terror" of science? I just don't get the terror factor.

I think it was a play on the Subgenius Dictum "Science does not remove the terror of the Gods".

It is indeed a reference to that aphorism, but it is also a reference to many people's aversions to the implications of many scientific concepts and ideas (evolution, thermodynamics, reductionism (especially as applied to biology and psychology), the big bang/cosmology, et cetera), and the general idea/implication that humanity (and, indeed, the universe itself) is just a coincidence and has not been afforded any special role or status in the cosmos

That isn't what scares the fundies.  What scares the fundies is that someone, somewhere, might have a good time.

No, but its what scares many normal religious folks, most new-agers, and even some respected scientists (Einstein found Quantum Physics to be exceedingly unnerving, especially its implications about non-determinism)
Praise NHGH! For the tribulation of all sentient beings.

a plague on both your houses -Mercutio

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zrTGgpWmdZQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rVWd7nPjJH8

It is an unfortunate fact that every man who seeks to disseminate knowledge must contend not only against ignorance itself, but against false instruction as well. No sooner do we deem ourselves free from a particularly gross superstition, than we are confronted by some enemy to learning who would plunge us back into the darkness -H.P.Lovecraft

He who fights with monsters must take care lest he thereby become a monster -Nietzsche

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SHhrZgojY1Q

You are a fluke of the universe, and whether you can hear it of not the universe is laughing behind your back -Deteriorata

Don't use the email address in my profile, I lost the password years ago

Saint Syko the confused

#11
March 12, 2009, 07:00:30 PM
Behold I am the great one I am a god from the planet 34e=0 and humanity and earth was created when I burped with all the great glory you would expect from a nuke hitting a cockroach. :kingmeh:
I'm EVIL MOOO OR IS IT BOO??????

Mesozoic Mister Nigel

#12
March 12, 2009, 07:56:35 PM
Is it another one of yours, BDS?

How old are these kids, anyway? You seem pretty mature, but your hangers-on all seem about 14.
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The Good Reverend Roger

#13
March 12, 2009, 08:00:51 PM
Quote from: Saint Syko the confused on March 12, 2009, 07:00:30 PM
Behold I am the great one I am a god from the planet 34e=0 and humanity and earth was created when I burped with all the great glory you would expect from a nuke hitting a cockroach. :kingmeh:


Yeah, great, whatever.  Please try not to let your pinealism leak all over the carpet.  Kthxbai.
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

P3nT4gR4m

#14
March 12, 2009, 10:59:42 PM
We are being trolled by a bunch of fucking children  :x

I suddenly find myself missing the smartest guy on the internets  :cry:

I'm up to my arse in Brexit Numpties, but I want more.  Target-rich environments are the new sexy.
Not actually a meat product.
Ass-Kicking & Foot-Stomping Ancient Master of SHIT FUCK FUCK FUCK
Awful and Bent Behemothic Results of Last Night's Painful Squat.
High Altitude Haggis-Filled Sex Bucket From Beyond Time and Space.
Internet Monkey Person of Filthy and Immoral Pygmy-Porn Wart Contagion
Octomom Auxillary Heat Exchanger Repairman
walking the fine line line between genius and batshit fucking crazy

"computation is a pattern in the spacetime arrangement of particles, and it's not the particles but the pattern that really matters! Matter doesn't matter." -- Max Tegmark
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