HUGE WORM

[Kai]

what?
It's Cogswell's Cogs, goddammit.....
you can't just call me 'conditioned' and excuse the implications of the terms...

No, its Leopold's Land Ethic. A Sand County Almanac is the seminal text of modern environmental ethic, written in the 1930's and published after his death in the 1940s. This was back when being an environmentalist wasn't touchy-feely lets hug a tree and save the wales and be coffee shop intellectuals, a far cry from the bullshit of today. This was before Singer, Naess, and all this PETA nonsense. Its definitely before the dumbass JETSONS, you moron.

[Elder Iptuous]

c'mon man.... 
reference to kids cartoon was a bit of levity.  i don't understand why you're taking such personal affront at this.

y'know what.... i was just debating the issue and touched a nerve with you, so you got real personal, real quick.  I didn't call you, or your reference a creationist at all, but you took my criticism of the terminology used as such, and for what it's worth, i apologize for not making it perfectly clear up front.
so... i didn't mean to step on your toes, and i'm not going to hold your comments against you.  I'm certain that you would not have behaved in the same way if we were discussing face to face, as you would have seen that i meant no ill will.  you seem a decent fellow, and the board is better for your presence.
I'll just back away here...

[Kai]

I just don't like creationists/ID/YEC. Creationist retoric is one of my biggest pet peeves (and I have many).

Someone telling me I'm spouting creationist rhetoric on a  bad day has bought themselves a shit sandwich. On a good day, I'll just never take them seriously again.

People who think I'm an apologist for creationism in the slightest haven't read my rant on Intelligent Design, or are simply unobservant.

[Kai]

Speaking of control:

http://scienceblogs.com/zooillogix/2009/03/mosquito_laser.php

MOSQUITO LAZERS