The Sacred Chao Te Ching

[LMNO]

So:

31

Rigidity makes oppression simple;
The wise spags use the creative trip left,
or the destructive trip right.

Rules disguise suspicion;
So be suspicious about them.
The wise spag will break them
without bringing attention to it;
And will be Rewarded with sovereignty,
if being free is his intent.
When freedom is in danger,
there should be no rest.
Those who oppose the freedom of others are not evil,
but have caged themselves. 
Wise spags speak of a jail break,
and lead by example
by rattling their own chains.

They enter the idiot asylum
with care & consideration
as if crossing a battlefield.

The symphony of rattling chains
is neither noise nor music.
It is the sound of the Chao
and those who hear it.






Yeah?

[Cramulus]

yeah!

one final proposal;

They enter the idiot asylum
with care & consideration
as if crossing a battlefield
or tiptoeing through a slumber party.

[LMNO]

I like it.


Edited on wiki.

Now, to get back to CH 35:  Can we do a better job with the eating the menu line?

[Cramulus]

added:

http://principiadiscordia.com/cramulus/index.php?title=Chao_Bin

a repository sandbox for stuff when we don't know what to do with it, or we're afraid it'll get lost in-thread.

[the last yatto]

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On the most basic level, Yin is chaos and Yang is cosmos, or creation.

[LMNO]

If you're a Taospag, that is.

[LMNO]

Back to CH35:  Some chapters in the TTC seem like they were cobbled together.  I don't mind doing the same to this chapter, as such:

Everyone digs the one who balances the Chao,
because within it live shits, giggles, and 3D movies.

But even that is an incomplete map,
so beware of believing it to be the territory.

The Cabbage on the street may be starving
but the Chao on the menu still doesn't taste like hamburger.

Jump to conclusions,
fall flat on your face.

[Cramulus]

I just took a scan, and the only other place we talk about map/territory/menu/eating it is chapter 12, where we say

But the wise spag does confuse the meal with the menu,
Nor the map with the territory;
Both are approximations.

Do we feel ch35 adds to this definition?



I think it probably does, yeah

I noticed you dropped the line "The wise spag treats every day like a day off, but still gets stuff done."?
   Was riffing more on the note of "The Master uses all things carelessly, like used talismans"

maybe there's a way to tie that "careless use" to the way one should use a map or menu.

[LMNO]

I just took a scan, and the only other place we talk about map/territory/menu/eating it is chapter 12, where we say

But the wise spag does confuse the meal with the menu,
Nor the map with the territory;
Both are approximations.

Do we feel ch35 adds to this definition?



I think it probably does, yeah

Cool, I'll slap it up there.

I noticed you dropped the line "The wise spag treats every day like a day off, but still gets stuff done."?
   Was riffing more on the note of "The Master uses all things carelessly, like used talismans"

maybe there's a way to tie that "careless use" to the way one should use a map or menu.

What chapter is that again?  I don't see it in the originals for 35.

[Cramulus]

ohh okay - it was in this post: http://www.principiadiscordia.com/forum/index.php?topic=20529.msg704410#msg704410

[LMNO]

How the hell did I miss that?

Re-inserted.



  (obligatory)

[Cramulus]

I think for 34 we'll go with the first translation, but I want to snip this from the second one:

Unconcerned with conclusions,
no need to grasp.
Unconscious of power,
wild free it prevails.

and tuck it away in the Chao Bin for later use

[LMNO]

Sounds good to me.


Chapter 20's translations seem to be at odds with each other.

[Cramulus]

woah -- we're done with the doubles!





next up: let's dissect...

it'd be cool if we had a few more outside opinions..

I wonder if some people (other than LMNO and I) would like to earmark some chapters they think should be revised...



edit: whoops didn't see ch20

[LMNO]

I also wanted to go back to CH21, to see if we can rephrase it better.