THE INEVITABLE SWINE FLU THREAD: How bad is it where YOU are?

[Xooxe]

It's like having a cold, a flu, tonsillitis, bronchitis, throat cancer, and full-blown AIDS all at once, plus the symptoms are impervious to anything you can get over-the-counter. so yeah it's pretty cool.

Shitty. Hope you feel better soon.

A while back I was reading about research into vitamin D and the immune system. Looks pretty awesome against flu. Sunshine or cod liver oil I guess.

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

Oh shit, I forgot to include this link - http://www.naturalnews.com/026503_pandemic_swine_flu_bioterrorism.html

  Journalist Files Charges against WHO and UN for Bioterrorism and Intent to Commit Mass Murder

In her charges, Burgermeister presents evidence of acts of bioterrorism that is in violation of U.S. law by a group operating within the U.S. under the direction of international bankers who control the Federal Reserve, as well as WHO, UN and NATO. This bioterrorism is for the purpose of carrying out a mass genocide against the U.S. population by use of a genetically engineered flu pandemic virus with the intent of causing death. This group has annexed high government offices in the U.S.

That's hilarious!

Also, thanks for the links. I like the way you think about disease.

[Cain]

Oh shit, I forgot to include this link - http://www.naturalnews.com/026503_pandemic_swine_flu_bioterrorism.html

 Journalist Files Charges against WHO and UN for Bioterrorism and Intent to Commit Mass Murder

In her charges, Burgermeister presents evidence of acts of bioterrorism that is in violation of U.S. law by a group operating within the U.S. under the direction of international bankers who control the Federal Reserve, as well as WHO, UN and NATO. This bioterrorism is for the purpose of carrying out a mass genocide against the U.S. population by use of a genetically engineered flu pandemic virus with the intent of causing death. This group has annexed high government offices in the U.S.

Am I the only one who thinks, if the idea that there was a secret conspiracy of international bankers who intended to commit genocide through some of the world's most powerful organizations was true, then filing charges probably wouldn't work?

All I'm saying is that if such a scenario was true, I'd be spend money on sniper and demolitions training, not wasting the court's time.

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

Don't die, Vex!

What's it like?

It's like having a cold, a flu, tonsillitis, bronchitis, throat cancer, and full-blown AIDS all at once, plus the symptoms are impervious to anything you can get over-the-counter. so yeah it's pretty cool.

So you're basically AWESOME.

[Thurnez Isa]

http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/afp/090704/health/health_flu_world_164


DAMN YOU SWINE FLUE

[Xooxe]

Also, thanks for the links. I like the way you think about disease.

Thanks. A few months ago I was doing a short Open University course on medicines and biochemistry which went into Tamiflu and also influenza pandemics. The deadline for my final piece of work was on the same day that reports started coming out of the outbreak in Mexico, so my head kind of got stuck in a phase of analyzing it all.

Am I the only one who thinks, if the idea that there was a secret conspiracy of international bankers who intended to commit genocide through some of the world's most powerful organizations was true, then filing charges probably wouldn't work?

Filed with the FBI, no less. I can almost imagine a Monty Python sketch with Graham Chapman, big cheese of a clandestine sect of Wall Street bankers, going insane at his bureaucratic minions for forgetting to annex the FBI.



A very interesting article here, from ECDC.

http://ecdc.europa.eu/en/health_content/sciadv/090704_sciadv.aspx

Two studies conducted in the US and Europe have been published this week in the journal Science both investigating how pandemic influenza A(H1N1)v virus behaves in an animal model - ferrets. Their results of the studies have important implications for humans since ferrets show transmissibility and disease severity features for seasonal influenza A viruses (H1N1 and H3N2 subtypes) and animal influenza viruses (H5 and H7 types) very similar to what is seen in humans. They are considered by many the best available animal model for how influenza behaves in humans.

Overview of the findings (taken from the article):

• Significant but not lethal pathogenicity from the pandemic A(H1N1)v – somewhat more than for seasonal A(H1N1) but considerably less than that seen for A(H5N1) (bird flu) in ferrets.
• In contrast to the seasonal influenza A H1N1 confined to the nasal cavity the pandemic influenza A/H1N1v isolates also replicated in the trachea, bronchi and bronchioles. No ferrets died from their infection,
• Droplet respiratory expression (but not transmission) occurring with the pandemic virus was higher than with seasonal influenza though not reaching the levels when using a 1918 pandemic virus.
• Successful and efficient ferret to ferret transmission but,
• Respiratory droplet transmission was significantly reduced compared to respiratory droplet transmission of the seasonal influenza virus.
• No systemic replication of the A(H1N1)v
• Pandemic viruses being found at higher levels in the lower respiratory tract of the infected individuals,
• Pandemic viruses in the intestinal tracts of the animals, which is consistent with some report of a explains the higher frequency of gastrointestinal symptoms observed in individuals affected by the pandemic virus.
• An ability of both viruses to infect the same cells in the respiratory tract (upper and lower) so increasing the risk of reassortment when co-infection occurs in humans.

Article from New Scientist, using the same research as above - http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn17414-revealed-how-pandemic-swine-flu-kills.html?DCMP=OTC-rss&nsref=online-news

They focus on how the novel H1N1 infects the lower respiratory tract causing viral pneumonia.



"Clinical Details of 2009 H1N1 in Hospitalized Patients" - http://www.upmc-biosecurity.org/website/focus/2009_H1N1_updates/updates/SF9_5-22-09_PM.html

The most striking feature of the current case reports is the fact that no evidence of bacterial superinfection was found in severely ill patients—a finding in contradistinction to some recent studies of the 1918 pandemic and more characteristic of infections with H5N1.3,4 This trend, if it continues, may have implications for antibiotic use as well as for any plans to expand vaccination for bacterial pathogens that have traditionally complicated influenza (eg, Hemophilus influenzae, Streptococcus pneumonaie).

[Cain]

Interesting stuff, to be sure.  Thanks

[tyrannosaurus vex]

swine flu over.

overall impression of swine flu: needs moar bleeding. it isn't really a proper scary disease unless it makes you bleed unnaturally or uncontrollably.

[Cain]

Ebola is the (bloody) shit when it comes to that.

[Cain]

I think my girlfriend has teh swine flu.  Well, either way, unless she has a miraculous recovery we're not going to the beach tomorrow 

[Xooxe]

Damn.     I've been ill in the summer before and it fully sucks.

No sign of flu where I am. 1 confirmed case and 0 suspected. This is testing my theory that people only ever leave Hull.

[Cain]

Yeah, its not brilliant, especially since she only got back from France two days ago and I haven't actually seen her since before she left.

All roads lead away from Hull.  No-one ever makes the mistake of going along them in the wrong direction.

[Fredfredly ⊂(◉‿◉)つ]

yaaaaay my dads boss got swine flu!!! actual confirmed case and everything. i want it so i can be awesome and defeat it

[maphdet]

I don't care if I get the swine flu---but my son really really cannot get it-he has major respiratory issues as it is already. And is immunity sucks balls!
And we are all sick here and am too skeerd to find out. FUCK.

[Jenne]

Tamaflu is your friend.  My son had it over the summer and survived quite well, and he has raging asthma and allergies.  Is on like 3 meds daily for it.  But the Tamaflu kicked H1N1's ass to the curb in about 7 days.  Ended up being no worse than a major cold (which, come on, is basically what it is), despite the 2 days of weirdness you get with the flu (fever, feeling shitty, etc.).