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Started by Cain, August 06, 2009, 12:56:34 PM

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Cain

#15
August 09, 2009, 01:49:22 PM
Cf, Lord of War

Cain

#16
August 20, 2009, 03:31:52 PM
Blackwater were hired to play a part in the CIA "terrorist hunt and kill" program.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/8211088.stm

QuoteThe CIA hired contractors from the US private security firm Blackwater as part of a secret programme to track and kill top al-Qaeda figures, reports say.

The New York Times quotes current and ex-government officials as saying Blackwater helped the CIA with planning, training and surveillance.

Several million dollars were spent on the programme but no militants were caught or captured, the report says.

Emphasis mine.  Nothing like a several million freebie to give to a Christian extremist with a private army.

Jenne

#17
August 26, 2009, 04:25:12 PM
Yes, and apparently, we have about twice as many "Blackwater troops" over in Afghanistan as we do American.  70K Blackwater vs. 40K US.  That's shitty.  Shitty shitty shitty.  And the Obama administration continues, according to Scahill (this is all accdg to Scahill, who I saw on Bill Maher's show), to use Blackwater for its own purposes, same as the damned Bush administration did.

Cain

#18
August 26, 2009, 04:30:12 PM
I heard there were 250,000 total contracters in Afghanistan, but contracter doesn't necessarily mean a frontline or security-placed mercenary.  I'd like more accurate figures, and a breakdown of precise duties (much of the logistics end has been privatized in war), but I doubt any will be forthcoming, since, uh, trade secrets and all that.

Jenne

#19
August 26, 2009, 04:34:10 PM
Scahill calls Prince a "Christian supremicist"...and it's so very scary that this guy has just about THE PREMIERE merc organization in the world, so I'm starting to be paranoid enough to put Blackwater up there with AQ as a runaway juggernaut backed by so-called legit governmental agendas.

Bullshit on the 'no more war on terra' statement by Obama's boys in the Pentagon...if Blackwater's still in play, then this b.s. agenda is STILL ON.

Jenne

#20
August 26, 2009, 04:38:52 PM
Quote from: Cain on August 26, 2009, 04:30:12 PM
I heard there were 250,000 total contracters in Afghanistan, but contracter doesn't necessarily mean a frontline or security-placed mercenary.  I'd like more accurate figures, and a breakdown of precise duties (much of the logistics end has been privatized in war), but I doubt any will be forthcoming, since, uh, trade secrets and all that.

again, this was Scahill's figures...I don't know how legit they are, but he named the figures as they are, and you're right--security ops/troops/bodyguards on officials...they can all be Blackwater and not figure into the "official" figures.

The scary part is the supralegal aspect to the role they play, no matter where they are.  But they still carry the stench of American supremicism on them.  So our agenda, whatever Obama's administration seems to think it is over there, is going to be outright tainted by them and their merc duties. 

Fucking paranoid shit, this is, and I got more and more pissed off sitting there listening to Chuck Todd and his excuses for why they pander to Obama and don't ask more hard-hitting questions about this--a platform Obama ran on.

Cain

#21
August 26, 2009, 04:40:01 PM
In Iraq, Blackwater mercs were often suspected by locals of being CIA or Mossad.  That was what insurgents called them, too.

Jenne

#22
August 26, 2009, 04:48:16 PM
Well, they were CIA...they were part of the death squad hired by Cheney et al.  Fuckers.

The Good Reverend Roger

#23
August 26, 2009, 04:49:21 PM
Quote from: Cain on August 26, 2009, 04:40:01 PM
In Iraq, Blackwater mercs were often suspected by locals of being CIA or Mossad.  That was what insurgents called them, too.

They are CIA.  I mean, in any meaningful sense.  Sort of like Tower Airlines.  Are they CIA?  No.  Are they really CIA?  Yes.
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Jenne

#24
August 26, 2009, 04:51:08 PM
Scahill said they were part of CIA (and still are) in Iraq.  They have diplomatic fucking immunity handed them by the Bush administration, though.  Unlike the CIA.  But there is a trial going on against a few of them right now.

Elder Iptuous

#25
August 26, 2009, 05:01:35 PM
just a point, since nobodies mentioned it in this thread....
Blackwater is now called Xe Services LLC.....
upon starting up Badassss name was good for rep.  now, not so much.

The Good Reverend Roger

#26
August 26, 2009, 05:03:13 PM
Quote from: Iptuous on August 26, 2009, 05:01:35 PM
just a point, since nobodies mentioned it in this thread....
Blackwater is now called Xe Services LLC.....
upon starting up Badassss name was good for rep.  now, not so much.


Check out their logo.   :lulz:
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- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
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Elder Iptuous

#27
August 26, 2009, 05:10:11 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on August 26, 2009, 05:03:13 PM
Check out their logo.   :lulz:
:?

what am i missing?

The Good Reverend Roger

#29
August 26, 2009, 05:15:26 PM
Whoops, never mind.

Got my evil empires mixed up.
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