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Started by Requia ☣, August 27, 2009, 05:13:15 AM

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The Good Reverend Roger

Quote from: fomenter on September 23, 2009, 07:32:05 PM
i like getting all my advice from people that don't expose them self's to the material they give advice on .... if she hasn't been to medical school then she is the obvious choice for being my doctor and making my important life and death decisions for me...

She's an expert in all fields.   :)
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

Mesozoic Mister Nigel

Quote from: Requia ☣ on September 23, 2009, 06:39:16 PM
What evidence?  I'm not sitting through an hour long movie, so tell me the citation that backs up what you're talking about.  I'll read that instead.

She wants to argue about it (and be right) but she won't actually watch it. Instead, I'm supposed to watch it and take notes for her. What the hell?  :lulz:

Is this how you handle your coursework, too, Requia?

Did you actually read the full text of the study you posted? Just curious, because that doesn't seem to be your MO.
"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."


fomenter

she only needs to see or read a little at the beginning to know if it is crap or true, she has the power of "always rightness"..
"So she says to me, do you wanna be a BAD boy? And I say YEAH baby YEAH! Surf's up space ponies! I'm makin' gravy... Without the lumps. HAAA-ha-ha-ha!"


hmroogp

The Good Reverend Roger

Quote from: fomenter on September 23, 2009, 07:58:28 PM
she only needs to see or read a little at the beginning to know if it is crap or true, she has the power of "always rightness"..

She was born knowing all this shit.
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

Requia ☣

Quote from: Nigel on September 23, 2009, 07:54:57 PM
Quote from: Requia ☣ on September 23, 2009, 06:39:16 PM
What evidence?  I'm not sitting through an hour long movie, so tell me the citation that backs up what you're talking about.  I'll read that instead.

She wants to argue about it (and be right) but she won't actually watch it. Instead, I'm supposed to watch it and take notes for her. What the hell?  :lulz:

Is this how you handle your coursework, too, Requia?

Did you actually read the full text of the study you posted? Just curious, because that doesn't seem to be your MO.

Do you even know the names of the studies you mentioned?
Inflatable dolls are not recognized flotation devices.

Requia ☣

Nigel, seriously, this is what, the fourth time we've done this, why is it so hard for you to give a source thats not a journalist or somebody who thinks homeopathy is a neat idea?
Inflatable dolls are not recognized flotation devices.

Mesozoic Mister Nigel

"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."


The Good Reverend Roger

Quote from: Requia ☣ on September 24, 2009, 12:23:16 AM
Nigel, seriously, this is what, the fourth time we've done this, why is it so hard for you to give a source thats not a journalist or somebody who thinks homeopathy is a neat idea?

Seriously, you keep talking, but all I hear is blah blah blah.  You have passed judgement on the lecture without even hearing it through, because it disagrees with your preconceived notions.  You're a very poor excuse for a scientific thinker.  You should take up a different advocation...like lecturing at the institute for creation science.  It's more your speed.
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

Mesozoic Mister Nigel

And then she is bizarrely determined to make other people explain it for her so that she can argue with them. It's completely illogical. "I haven't watched that lecture but I disagree with it, and I'm not going to look at the citations but I'm going to post some that are kind of related, which I imagine proves my point. Even though I'm not sure what I'm arguing against."
"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."


lumberjim

QuoteLow Carb Diets

In the later stages of a fat loss phase, I will do some carb manipulation/cycling. However, that is very individualized and beyond the scope of this article.

Manipulating carb consumption and cutting carbs all together are two very different things.



Here are some basic facts on carbs:

- The human body is fueled by glucose. All foods must be converted into glucose before they can be used as fuel.

- Carbohydrates are more easily converted into glucose than protein or fat, and are considered to be the body's "preferred" source of energy and the brain's essential source of energy.

- Glucose is stored in blood, muscles and the liver as glycogen



- 1 gram of glycogen holds 2.4 grams of water



Since glycogen holds over double its weight in water, it's no wonder why people who cut carbs lose so much weight so fast. It's more likely that they lost mostly water weight.



This is why just using the scale to gauge your progress is a bad idea.



You burn glycogen throughout the day, and eating carbs simply refuels your tank. If all of a sudden you stop refilling the tank, your body still needs a source of fuel for the brain. So your body will make its own glycogen by breaking down muscle tissue. Again, not good!



Finally, cutting carbs will cause you to go into a state of Ketosis, which is when you have an abnormal amount of ketone bodies in the blood. Ketone bodies help feed the brain.



Most medical resources regard ketosis as a physiological state associated with chronic starvation.



Ketosis is regarded as a crisis reaction of the body due to a lack of carbohydrates in the diet. Ketosis would thus be a dangerous (potentially life-threatening) state which unnecessarily stresses the liver and causes destruction of muscle tissues.



The other issue with cutting carbs is that when you do finally eat carbs, your body has no idea how to process them and will immediately turn them into triglycerides, which is a fatty acid. Put simply, your body forgets how to use carbs and will immediately store them as fat.
Hi!  I'm a stalker!  Disagree with me, and I'll follow you around for MONTHS!

The Good Reverend Roger

This is where Lumberjim thinks we'll all suddenly forget what a backstabbing, hypocritical shitneck he is.
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

Requia ☣

Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on September 24, 2009, 01:18:33 AM
Quote from: Requia ☣ on September 24, 2009, 12:23:16 AM
Nigel, seriously, this is what, the fourth time we've done this, why is it so hard for you to give a source thats not a journalist or somebody who thinks homeopathy is a neat idea?

Seriously, you keep talking, but all I hear is blah blah blah.  You have passed judgement on the lecture without even hearing it through, because it disagrees with your preconceived notions.  You're a very poor excuse for a scientific thinker.  You should take up a different advocation...like lecturing at the institute for creation science.  It's more your speed.

No, i passed judgment on Nigel claiming that science backs up low carb dieting, I watched the lecture long enough to know that according to the man, post industrial farmers are very active, but pre industrial farmers are sedentary.
Inflatable dolls are not recognized flotation devices.

The Good Reverend Roger

Quote from: Requia ☣ on September 24, 2009, 05:57:53 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on September 24, 2009, 01:18:33 AM
Quote from: Requia ☣ on September 24, 2009, 12:23:16 AM
Nigel, seriously, this is what, the fourth time we've done this, why is it so hard for you to give a source thats not a journalist or somebody who thinks homeopathy is a neat idea?

Seriously, you keep talking, but all I hear is blah blah blah.  You have passed judgement on the lecture without even hearing it through, because it disagrees with your preconceived notions.  You're a very poor excuse for a scientific thinker.  You should take up a different advocation...like lecturing at the institute for creation science.  It's more your speed.

No, i passed judgment on Nigel

Sorry, you lack the cops for that sort of thing.
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

Sir Squid Diddimus

A friend of mine is on that "caveman diet" thing where you eat I guess meats, fruits and vegies that were available or some shit, no processed grains and... man I can't keep up with it all, but he's as thin as a rail.

Mesozoic Mister Nigel

Quote from: Requia ☣ on September 24, 2009, 05:57:53 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on September 24, 2009, 01:18:33 AM
Quote from: Requia ☣ on September 24, 2009, 12:23:16 AM
Nigel, seriously, this is what, the fourth time we've done this, why is it so hard for you to give a source thats not a journalist or somebody who thinks homeopathy is a neat idea?

Seriously, you keep talking, but all I hear is blah blah blah.  You have passed judgement on the lecture without even hearing it through, because it disagrees with your preconceived notions.  You're a very poor excuse for a scientific thinker.  You should take up a different advocation...like lecturing at the institute for creation science.  It's more your speed.

No, i passed judgment on Nigel claiming that science backs up low carb dieting, I watched the lecture long enough to know that according to the man, post industrial farmers are very active, but pre industrial farmers are sedentary.

Noooooooo! Oh my god! He didn't say that at all! And I didn't claim that science backs up low-carb dieting! ZOMG!  :horrormirth:
"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."