Jesus Christ, seriously?

[The Good Reverend Roger]

Because the majority are happy with this set up, the people at the top, the people in the middle, and the ones you described, the bad welfare people.
The difference is the bad welfare people don't have any choice in the matter.
The truth is, the American Dream, that everyone can rise to the top if they have the skills, simply isn't true, it doesn't happen.

You just made Horatio Alger cry.

Now go to bed, Faust, it's gotta be Friday o'clock in Ireland by now.

[Jasper]

What's so bad about backpedaling?  It's merely the act of climbing out of the hole you just dug.

[Jasper]

Nothing. I frequently enjoy a good backpedal. 

BACKPEDALER!!

[Captain Utopia]

http://celebrities.ninemsn.com.au/blog.aspx?blogentryid=585857&showcomments=true&rss=yes

No.

[Fuquad]

No skills + no work experience = no job = need to get on welfare.

I see.  Might I ask who we are blaming for the lack of skills/work experience?

Die in a fire.

[Freeky]

So, me and the wife were jsut postulating, d ya reckon billy ray's a nonce then?

If I knew what a nonce was, I'd give my two cents. 

[Salty]

A pedo, yes?
That'd be MORE weird, gross, considering it's his daughter.

Alty,
has the heeby-jeebies now.

[Freeky]

EW. Very EW.

[Captain Utopia]

Ah, fuck it.  This is the result of our celebrity-obsessed culture.  Monkey see, monkey do.  It's easy and a satisfying relief to just blame the parents, but what can any parent do about the tidal-wave of technicolored infectious filth that spews forth from every communication orifice piped into our homes with increasing mind-numbing speed?

Become a born-again bible-sucking fundamentalist?  No.  But seeing that article made me briefly, however seriously, packing my family up and moving to some backwoods of nowhere without any connection to the outside world.  Fuck.

I mean look around.  What role models does a young girl have?  Who are they going to try to emulate?  Seemingly precious few are the women out there who couldn't give a flying shit about Heat Magazine, or the fucking E! network.  And guys, you reinforce this too, even if it's just a passive acceptance of what you've been trained to think of as the superfluous fluff most women spend so much time obsessing about.  It is a poison, and you don't need to get all gay for jesus to do take a stand against it.

You know, this viewpoint helps explain to me why I've always felt an uncomfortable resonance when I've heard jihadists talk about the decadent, immoral and evil westernised culture.  I've always internally countered that with a "Yeah, but what are you gonna do?  The price for this outweighs the cost of that, and oh fucking look, I don't need to change a goddamn thing, how ass-puckeringly convenient".  You know, changing minds is a lot more difficult, and infinitely less gratifying than just blowing shit up. 

Given the content creation/criticism ratio here, I don't think most of us fully believe that minds can be changed.  It's easier to file it under the "nice dream", but until the win is virtually guaranteed, it's a pleasant self-reinforcing attitude to sit back and not give a fuck.  For all my short-sighted idiocy, I give a fuck.  I have a two year old daughter and by my estimation, less than seven years to make any impact at all.  If Discordian Evangelism needs causes to rally around, then I nominate this one - we have a voice and we have never been stronger.

Because this time, the spiders have gone too far.

[Cain]

lol, education and skills.

Yeah, that'll help.  No, really.  

Hows it going overqualified, underpaid buddy? I'm fairly certain half the forum holds a degree/masters at this stage.

Yeah, its a good ratio certainly.  Well, I've finally managed to break back into credit.  First time since October 2008.  As someone who has never been more than a couple of hundred pounds in debit before the last two years, that was....unpleasant.  I also think I have a one-off job coming up, which I might be able to use to wrangle myself a payrise.  Well, at the very least, I know I have job security right now, and plenty of spare time to read.

[Cain]

lol, education and skills.

Yeah, that'll help.  No, really. 

Yeah, point.

How much schooling do you have, again?  And it took you how long to find ANY job?

Yeah, but why blame 30 years of short-sighted economic policy when you can blame smudgy people, right?

Six years on top of the mandatory.  Aside from very temporary jobs and schemes (like the poker business), took me fourteen months to land my current position.  Where I'm earning less than I have at any time in the past six years.

[Cain]

Uh huh, are you hiring dishwashers that don't have experience?  I've been trying to get that job, but I've been told no.  Even when i have friends in management at the company in question.

Yeah, I've tried using my connections to get entry level jobs as well.  No dice.  That's when you know things are pretty bad.

[Cain]

So, me and the wife were jsut postulating, d ya reckon billy ray's a nonce then?

I've always considered it a possibility, from the moment he allowed his other sprog to do the Vanity Fair shoot.

[P3nT4gR4m]

Ah, fuck it.  This is the result of our celebrity-obsessed culture.  Monkey see, monkey do.  It's easy and a satisfying relief to just blame the parents, but what can any parent do about the tidal-wave of technicolored infectious filth that spews forth from every communication orifice piped into our homes with increasing mind-numbing speed?

Become a born-again bible-sucking fundamentalist?  No.  But seeing that article made me briefly, however seriously, packing my family up and moving to some backwoods of nowhere without any connection to the outside world.  Fuck.

I mean look around.  What role models does a young girl have?  Who are they going to try to emulate?  Seemingly precious few are the women out there who couldn't give a flying shit about Heat Magazine, or the fucking E! network.  And guys, you reinforce this too, even if it's just a passive acceptance of what you've been trained to think of as the superfluous fluff most women spend so much time obsessing about.  It is a poison, and you don't need to get all gay for jesus to do take a stand against it.

You know, this viewpoint helps explain to me why I've always felt an uncomfortable resonance when I've heard jihadists talk about the decadent, immoral and evil westernised culture.  I've always internally countered that with a "Yeah, but what are you gonna do?  The price for this outweighs the cost of that, and oh fucking look, I don't need to change a goddamn thing, how ass-puckeringly convenient".  You know, changing minds is a lot more difficult, and infinitely less gratifying than just blowing shit up. 

Given the content creation/criticism ratio here, I don't think most of us fully believe that minds can be changed.  It's easier to file it under the "nice dream", but until the win is virtually guaranteed, it's a pleasant self-reinforcing attitude to sit back and not give a fuck.  For all my short-sighted idiocy, I give a fuck.  I have a two year old daughter and by my estimation, less than seven years to make any impact at all.  If Discordian Evangelism needs causes to rally around, then I nominate this one - we have a voice and we have never been stronger.

Because this time, the spiders have gone too far.

Teach your kid to hate society and the monkeys in it. Fuck the rest of them, you should already hate those bastards as it is. Children are not innocent little bastions of the future, they are ignorant little clones of their idiot parents in waiting. Some of them might break the mold and grow up sentient. Most of them won't. Forget about 'em - look after your own.

[Captain Utopia]

Teach your kid to hate society and the monkeys in it. Fuck the rest of them, you should already hate those bastards as it is. Children are not innocent little bastions of the future, they are ignorant little clones of their idiot parents in waiting. Some of them might break the mold and grow up sentient. Most of them won't. Forget about 'em - look after your own.

Ah, I know it's probably pointless.. but I had to try.