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Pot/drugs: An all-encompassing explanation.

Started by Doktor Howl, February 15, 2010, 09:50:26 PM

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I do drugs because I like to do drugs. If something 'enlightening' happens while I'm on drugs, cool. If not, as long as I had a fun trip, I don't really give a shit.  LSD is great fun in the right setting. Shrooms are great fun in the right setting. Pot is good stuff in the right setting. If I'm in the right setting and I want to stick something in my head or body, then fuck you to anyone who thinks that they can demand I don't. Now, when I first started, I thought that mind expansion must be a part of it... but in retrospect my base motivation was curiosity and desire. Once the drug subculture realizes that curiousity and desire are equally valid reasons for taking drugs, maybe they'll drop the tribal mantra of "It's Expanding My Mind DUDE!"

The only position I find myself still holding unchanged from my early drug experiences is the vital need for the monkeys  to shut the fuck up about what other monkeys may or may not want to do.
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Doktor Howl

Quote from: Ratatosk on February 24, 2010, 06:49:13 PM
I do drugs because I like to do drugs.

Nothing wrong with that.  It's the pot evangelists that get under my skin.
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I should probably do a recap of my drug use and what I learned from them.

Entirely subjective, true.  But at least I can subsequently point to it when I get the inevitable, "what the hell do you know about drug
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    [edit] well, what do you know.  [x] gives you a bullet point.


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PeregrineBF

I don't do drugs because I hate when things mess with my head. I have a very high tolerance for alcohol (I'll poison myself before I get drunk), morphine wakes me up & makes me angry (had brain surgery), most painkillers don't do anything (codeine makes me annoyed, does nothing for pain.) I don't, however, care what anyone else does. Not my business to tell people to stop/whatever.
Pot evangelists, well, in all likelihood it would just make me paranoid and angry.

Captain Utopia

Quote from: P3nT4gR4m on February 24, 2010, 06:28:53 PM
Taking pot or any other hallucinogen, once or twice, can "expand your mind" or let you experience things that can also be accomplished in other ways.

Continuing to take the drug, afterwards, is pointless and anyone who claims it's still expanding their mind is bullshitting. It's like opening a door, once it's open it's open.

I disagree.  I get some pot maybe once or twice a year.  Frequently I'll experience a continuation of thoughts that I had previously considered six months earlier, while high, which had completely slipped my sober mind.  I can verify this because I take notes and date them.  When this happens I'll make a more careful note, explaining the concept as fully as I can, and most of the time - not always - it'll be a useful insight also when I am able to consider it while sober.

You're describing your experiences, not a universal truth.  Personally, I have no desire to see how fucked up I can get, not least because I'm a total lightweight - 1/3 to 1/2 a joint is enough for me to crack open the door a little, and it'll take a week or two to fully close.  I imagine that if you take it to the wall each time then there isn't much you can bring back from the experience.

Doktor Howl

Quote from: PeregrineBF on February 24, 2010, 07:00:30 PM
I don't do drugs because I hate when things mess with my head. I have a very high tolerance for alcohol (I'll poison myself before I get drunk), morphine wakes me up & makes me angry (had brain surgery), most painkillers don't do anything (codeine makes me annoyed, does nothing for pain.) I don't, however, care what anyone else does. Not my business to tell people to stop/whatever.
Pot evangelists, well, in all likelihood it would just make me paranoid and angry.

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I don't give a damn what anyone bangs into their bloodstream, as long as it doesn't affect me.
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BabylonHoruv

Quote from: Doktor Howl on February 24, 2010, 06:30:44 PM
Quote from: BabylonHoruv on February 24, 2010, 09:56:31 AM
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Quote from: Emerald City Hustle on February 22, 2010, 08:18:23 PM
why didn't nature have our bodies produce these amino acids internally?

poor diet choice over the ages? and is it all homos that require it, or just some of them, ie european/whites

If one group of humans require it, they all do.

But to different degrees, white skinned people require less sunlight than dark skinned people, but it is easier for whites to overdose on sunlight and get skin cancer or just sun burns.  Europeans are also almost universally able to digest lactose, Asians are less likely to be able to.

So what do whites do?  put vitamin D (the vitamin we get from sunlight) in their milk.  Mind you, we all need vitamin D, as well as calcium and protein in the milk, but we get it different ways.

Perhaps we also all need our brains stimulated in certain ways, but the degrees vary, probably within "races" as most human genetics tend to do.

Which amino acids do Black people not need?

I quite specifically didn't say that any race didn't need them at all.  i said different races may need them in different proportions.
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NotPublished

I definatly won't try drugs - and I'm not curious, after seeing the effects of what it does to people - even those who are considered quite strong, its sad watching them fall apart and trying to drag everyone with them due to an addiction. Heck, I never even used to drink till I turned 18, I just do social drinking now; I'm also an incredible light weight when it comes to alcohol 8) I have no tolerance what so ever. I weigh around 77 kg. I'd probably get sick from 4 drinks haha, I'm usually tipsy by my second.

As others have said - I don't care who does it, as long as it doesn't affect me and it isn't waved in my face.
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Quote from: NotPublished on February 25, 2010, 05:13:23 AM
I definatly won't try drugs - and I'm not curious, after seeing the effects of what it does to people - even those who are considered quite strong, its sad watching them fall apart and trying to drag everyone with them due to an addiction. Heck, I never even used to drink till I turned 18, I just do social drinking now; I'm also an incredible light weight when it comes to alcohol 8) I have no tolerance what so ever. I weigh around 77 kg. I'd probably get sick from 4 drinks haha, I'm usually tipsy by my second.

As others have said - I don't care who does it, as long as it doesn't affect me and it isn't waved in my face.


actually, if you drink you ARE "doing drugs".
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Dunno if this has been posted..

http://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/press_releases/2006/07_11_06.html

QuoteHOPKINS SCIENTISTS SHOW HALLUCINOGEN IN MUSHROOMS CREATES UNIVERSAL "MYSTICAL" EXPERIENCE

...

Using unusually rigorous scientific conditions and measures, Johns Hopkins researchers have shown that the active agent in "sacred mushrooms" can induce mystical/spiritual experiences descriptively identical to spontaneous ones people have reported for centuries.

The resulting experiences apparently prompt positive changes in behavior and attitude that last several months, at least.

Saw a presentation on this at Entheogenesis Australia last year, a great conference / gathering that some aussie posters might be interested in.

http://www.entheo.net/

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