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Started by Lies, October 05, 2010, 11:57:58 PM

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Lies

Quote from: Sir Coyote on October 06, 2010, 02:46:43 AM
Quote from: The Lord and Lady Omnibus Fuck on October 06, 2010, 02:45:01 AM
Quote from: Lysergic on October 06, 2010, 12:43:26 AM
Yeah, look, you're just completely missing my point here.
Fine, worship the fucking costumed geeks. I don't give a fuck anyway.

I'm going to go and support the people who I feel are *really* making a difference and watch them get no credit for it regardless.

Can you do it without tearing other people down?

How else is he to show how much better he is?
I don't think I'm better than anyone. In fact, I'm down right fucking stupid.
But I do what I feel is right, and I don't expect credit or reward most of the time except when I'm promised it.

I've done a lot of thankless things, and I've never mentioned them right up until you had to call me on "what have I done for society?" and I fucking said what I did and suddenly I'm trying to show how much "better" I am than everyone. Fuck this noise.
- So the New World Order does not actually exist?
- Oh it exists, and how!
Ask the slaves whose labour built the White House;
Ask the slaves of today tied down to sweatshops and brothels to escape hunger;
Ask most women, second class citizens, in a pervasive rape culture;
Ask the non-human creatures who inhabit the planet:
whales, bears, frogs, tuna, bees, slaughtered farm animals;
Ask the natives of the Americas and Australia on whose land
you live today, on whose graves your factories, farms and neighbourhoods stand;
ask any of them this, ask them if the New World Order is true;
they'll tell you plainly: the New World Order... is you!

Don Coyote

Quote from: Phox on October 06, 2010, 02:46:56 AM
Quote from: Sir Coyote on October 06, 2010, 02:40:28 AM
Quote from: Phox on October 06, 2010, 02:37:24 AM
Oh, did I miss the whole thing?


My brother and I did unpaid 24-hour shifts at the ambulance service this summer because we wanted to use our EMT training but neither of us wanted to actually be employed there, and we both work part-time with the fire department as first responders. He also tried to join the Navy but they wouldn't let him because he was 4 lbs. overweight, so now he's trying to lose that weight so they'll let him in. We both regularly donate to charities, and we both volunteer at the homeless shelter.  Do we win?  

Your brother in 2nd place. Anyone can lose 4lbs. I have excessive refractive error, which isn't easily fixed short of maybe lazers. :lulz:
You are tied at 3rd place with Lys.

3rd?   :|

And, yes, losing the 4 lbs. shouldn't be hard. I just think it's stupid that they won't even let him go through the medical screening until he loses 4 lbs. that he would  lose in basic training anyway....

Well to be honest, the requirements to get in are lower than to stay in. He already has more slack than what would required to stay in.

Mesozoic Mister Nigel

Quote from: Lysergic on October 06, 2010, 02:44:17 AM
THAT is what I'm fucking talking about, I answered the question, got ridiculed for answering honestly.

Fuck this place.

I saw that after I posted. Didn't read the whole thread first.

So, to your list of things, which are pretty much the same things everyone does, I say, so what?

If you think some of the costumed guys are assholes, start a thread about the specific ones who are assholes. There's no good reason to dump on everyone who thinks it's cool just because there are more effective social justice programs or because some of them are fucked-up dicks.
"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."


Mesozoic Mister Nigel

Quote from: Lysergic on October 06, 2010, 12:47:42 AM

You don't seem to get that I'm not *opposed* to what they are doing, in theory, I'm just trying to point out the *otherside* to this, that there are people who help out society and get NO fucking credit for it, while these guys dress up like idiots and do nothing really and become media sensations because they "stand out".


I know I should read the rest of the thread before replying to every little thing, but... Mr. Language has devoted his life to working for social justice, and believe me, he's not doing it for the credit.

"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."


Lies

Quote from: The Lord and Lady Omnibus Fuck on October 06, 2010, 03:01:18 AM
Quote from: Lysergic on October 06, 2010, 02:44:17 AM
THAT is what I'm fucking talking about, I answered the question, got ridiculed for answering honestly.

Fuck this place.

I saw that after I posted. Didn't read the whole thread first.

So, to your list of things, which are pretty much the same things everyone does, I say, so what?

If you think some of the costumed guys are assholes, start a thread about the specific ones who are assholes. There's no good reason to dump on everyone who thinks it's cool just because there are more effective social justice programs or because some of them are fucked-up dicks.
I never said that anything I've done is more than what anyone else would do, I was trying to make the point that we can *all* be heroes without wearing a fucking costume.
- So the New World Order does not actually exist?
- Oh it exists, and how!
Ask the slaves whose labour built the White House;
Ask the slaves of today tied down to sweatshops and brothels to escape hunger;
Ask most women, second class citizens, in a pervasive rape culture;
Ask the non-human creatures who inhabit the planet:
whales, bears, frogs, tuna, bees, slaughtered farm animals;
Ask the natives of the Americas and Australia on whose land
you live today, on whose graves your factories, farms and neighbourhoods stand;
ask any of them this, ask them if the New World Order is true;
they'll tell you plainly: the New World Order... is you!

Mesozoic Mister Nigel

Quote from: Lysergic on October 06, 2010, 03:03:34 AM
Quote from: The Lord and Lady Omnibus Fuck on October 06, 2010, 03:01:18 AM
Quote from: Lysergic on October 06, 2010, 02:44:17 AM
THAT is what I'm fucking talking about, I answered the question, got ridiculed for answering honestly.

Fuck this place.

I saw that after I posted. Didn't read the whole thread first.

So, to your list of things, which are pretty much the same things everyone does, I say, so what?

If you think some of the costumed guys are assholes, start a thread about the specific ones who are assholes. There's no good reason to dump on everyone who thinks it's cool just because there are more effective social justice programs or because some of them are fucked-up dicks.
I never said that anything I've done is more than what anyone else would do, I was trying to make the point that we can *all* be heroes without wearing a fucking costume.

My suggestion is that you learn a way to do this without using critical comparisons. You can say "This guy is amazing and cool! Talk about a real-life superhero!" without also saying "Compared to him, those other guys everyone thinks are cool are total chumps!"

It was the negative comparison that really took it awry. Also, you brought your pet topic into someone else's thread, and that rubbed people the wrong way.
"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."


Mesozoic Mister Nigel

Obviously, you feel like everyone's picking on you when you haven't done anything to deserve it.
"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."


Lies

Quote from: The Lord and Lady Omnibus Fuck on October 06, 2010, 03:03:01 AM
Quote from: Lysergic on October 06, 2010, 12:47:42 AM

You don't seem to get that I'm not *opposed* to what they are doing, in theory, I'm just trying to point out the *otherside* to this, that there are people who help out society and get NO fucking credit for it, while these guys dress up like idiots and do nothing really and become media sensations because they "stand out".


I know I should read the rest of the thread before replying to every little thing, but... Mr. Language has devoted his life to working for social justice, and believe me, he's not doing it for the credit.



This is what I'm trying to say.
People who do things because it's the *right* thing to do, and aren't looking for credit, go unnoticed.
People who dress up like "super heroes" and are essentially a, as coyote put it, "neighbour hood watch" in costume, and are barely that, if anything, have their own fucking website where they all circle jerk each other and fight for media attention.

I don't care if you want to play dress ups and do good things, I'm in favour of it, weirdness is awesome.
But I do care when you decide that people who do drugs deserved to be bashed up instead of helped, that someone thinks it's their moral obligation to stop people from flirting and picking up just because *they* had one bad experience in love, or go on some ones word that "someone" is doing a "bad" thing and something must be done about it when that person is completely innocent and has their life ruined because of some random asshole who doesn't like them.
- So the New World Order does not actually exist?
- Oh it exists, and how!
Ask the slaves whose labour built the White House;
Ask the slaves of today tied down to sweatshops and brothels to escape hunger;
Ask most women, second class citizens, in a pervasive rape culture;
Ask the non-human creatures who inhabit the planet:
whales, bears, frogs, tuna, bees, slaughtered farm animals;
Ask the natives of the Americas and Australia on whose land
you live today, on whose graves your factories, farms and neighbourhoods stand;
ask any of them this, ask them if the New World Order is true;
they'll tell you plainly: the New World Order... is you!

Lies

Quote from: The Lord and Lady Omnibus Fuck on October 06, 2010, 03:06:56 AM
Quote from: Lysergic on October 06, 2010, 03:03:34 AM
Quote from: The Lord and Lady Omnibus Fuck on October 06, 2010, 03:01:18 AM
Quote from: Lysergic on October 06, 2010, 02:44:17 AM
THAT is what I'm fucking talking about, I answered the question, got ridiculed for answering honestly.

Fuck this place.

I saw that after I posted. Didn't read the whole thread first.

So, to your list of things, which are pretty much the same things everyone does, I say, so what?

If you think some of the costumed guys are assholes, start a thread about the specific ones who are assholes. There's no good reason to dump on everyone who thinks it's cool just because there are more effective social justice programs or because some of them are fucked-up dicks.
I never said that anything I've done is more than what anyone else would do, I was trying to make the point that we can *all* be heroes without wearing a fucking costume.

My suggestion is that you learn a way to do this without using critical comparisons. You can say "This guy is amazing and cool! Talk about a real-life superhero!" without also saying "Compared to him, those other guys everyone thinks are cool are total chumps!"

It was the negative comparison that really took it awry. Also, you brought your pet topic into someone else's thread, and that rubbed people the wrong way.

You're absolutely right Nigel.
I'm sorry, but it's just something I feel pretty strongly about, and maybe jumped a bit too hard into it.

I just can't help but feel there's a darker side to all this "awesomeness" of people running around in costumes that people are just going to ignore.

I don't want to be a fucking kill joy, but I don't want people getting hurt because of their "heroics" and I don't like people who DESERVE to be acknowledged and credited for their contributions to society to go unnoticed because there are other random ass holes stealing the spotlight.
- So the New World Order does not actually exist?
- Oh it exists, and how!
Ask the slaves whose labour built the White House;
Ask the slaves of today tied down to sweatshops and brothels to escape hunger;
Ask most women, second class citizens, in a pervasive rape culture;
Ask the non-human creatures who inhabit the planet:
whales, bears, frogs, tuna, bees, slaughtered farm animals;
Ask the natives of the Americas and Australia on whose land
you live today, on whose graves your factories, farms and neighbourhoods stand;
ask any of them this, ask them if the New World Order is true;
they'll tell you plainly: the New World Order... is you!

Freeky

It may be that the people who do what they do to help, and don't care whether or not they get acknowledged, may not give a damn that there are some people trying to help in their own way.

Lies

Quote from: Mistress Freeky, HRN on October 06, 2010, 03:20:09 AM
It may be that the people who do what they do to help, and don't care whether or not they get acknowledged, may not give a damn that there are some people trying to help in their own way.

Helping in your own way I've got nothing against, but where do you draw the line between helping and "fucking things up more"?

I think there's a very thin line there when it comes to a lot of these costumed crusaders, and it won't be long before we start hearing shit about it, mark my words.
- So the New World Order does not actually exist?
- Oh it exists, and how!
Ask the slaves whose labour built the White House;
Ask the slaves of today tied down to sweatshops and brothels to escape hunger;
Ask most women, second class citizens, in a pervasive rape culture;
Ask the non-human creatures who inhabit the planet:
whales, bears, frogs, tuna, bees, slaughtered farm animals;
Ask the natives of the Americas and Australia on whose land
you live today, on whose graves your factories, farms and neighbourhoods stand;
ask any of them this, ask them if the New World Order is true;
they'll tell you plainly: the New World Order... is you!

Don Coyote

Quote from: Lysergic on October 06, 2010, 03:22:08 AM
Quote from: Mistress Freeky, HRN on October 06, 2010, 03:20:09 AM
It may be that the people who do what they do to help, and don't care whether or not they get acknowledged, may not give a damn that there are some people trying to help in their own way.

Helping in your own way I've got nothing against, but where do you draw the line between helping and "fucking things up more"?

I think there's a very thin line there when it comes to a lot of these costumed crusaders, and it won't be long before we start hearing shit about it, mark my words.

This can apply to so many things.  :wink:


Lies

Quote from: Sir Coyote on October 06, 2010, 03:23:37 AM
Quote from: Lysergic on October 06, 2010, 03:22:08 AM
Quote from: Mistress Freeky, HRN on October 06, 2010, 03:20:09 AM
It may be that the people who do what they do to help, and don't care whether or not they get acknowledged, may not give a damn that there are some people trying to help in their own way.

Helping in your own way I've got nothing against, but where do you draw the line between helping and "fucking things up more"?

I think there's a very thin line there when it comes to a lot of these costumed crusaders, and it won't be long before we start hearing shit about it, mark my words.

This can apply to so many things.  :wink:



Oh ho ho, ICWUTUDIDTHAR, how fucking clever, you're right, maybe I *should* take a good hard look at myself and how I'm fucking things up around here, RIGHT?

Get fucked, asshole.
- So the New World Order does not actually exist?
- Oh it exists, and how!
Ask the slaves whose labour built the White House;
Ask the slaves of today tied down to sweatshops and brothels to escape hunger;
Ask most women, second class citizens, in a pervasive rape culture;
Ask the non-human creatures who inhabit the planet:
whales, bears, frogs, tuna, bees, slaughtered farm animals;
Ask the natives of the Americas and Australia on whose land
you live today, on whose graves your factories, farms and neighbourhoods stand;
ask any of them this, ask them if the New World Order is true;
they'll tell you plainly: the New World Order... is you!

Don Coyote

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Quote from: Lysergic on October 06, 2010, 03:24:59 AM
Quote from: Sir Coyote on October 06, 2010, 03:23:37 AM
Quote from: Lysergic on October 06, 2010, 03:22:08 AM
Quote from: Mistress Freeky, HRN on October 06, 2010, 03:20:09 AM
It may be that the people who do what they do to help, and don't care whether or not they get acknowledged, may not give a damn that there are some people trying to help in their own way.

Helping in your own way I've got nothing against, but where do you draw the line between helping and "fucking things up more"?

I think there's a very thin line there when it comes to a lot of these costumed crusaders, and it won't be long before we start hearing shit about it, mark my words.

This can apply to so many things.  :wink:



Oh ho ho, ICWUTUDIDTHAR, how fucking clever, you're right, maybe I *should* take a good hard look at myself and how I'm fucking things up around here, RIGHT?

Get fucked, asshole.
You are so right. You are so making things so much better. Please, carry on. Remember based on your qualifications of worthwhile ways to help people, I am several steps ahead of you.

Lies

Quote from: Sir Coyote on October 06, 2010, 03:32:18 AM
Quote from: Lysergic on October 06, 2010, 03:24:59 AM
Quote from: Sir Coyote on October 06, 2010, 03:23:37 AM
Quote from: Lysergic on October 06, 2010, 03:22:08 AM
Quote from: Mistress Freeky, HRN on October 06, 2010, 03:20:09 AM
It may be that the people who do what they do to help, and don't care whether or not they get acknowledged, may not give a damn that there are some people trying to help in their own way.

Helping in your own way I've got nothing against, but where do you draw the line between helping and "fucking things up more"?

I think there's a very thin line there when it comes to a lot of these costumed crusaders, and it won't be long before we start hearing shit about it, mark my words.

This can apply to so many things.  :wink:



Oh ho ho, ICWUTUDIDTHAR, how fucking clever, you're right, maybe I *should* take a good hard look at myself and how I'm fucking things up around here, RIGHT?

Get fucked, asshole.
You are so right. You are so making things so much better. Please, carry on. Remember based on your qualifications of worthwhile ways to help people, I am several steps ahead of you.

Now who's fucking tooting their own horn?
- So the New World Order does not actually exist?
- Oh it exists, and how!
Ask the slaves whose labour built the White House;
Ask the slaves of today tied down to sweatshops and brothels to escape hunger;
Ask most women, second class citizens, in a pervasive rape culture;
Ask the non-human creatures who inhabit the planet:
whales, bears, frogs, tuna, bees, slaughtered farm animals;
Ask the natives of the Americas and Australia on whose land
you live today, on whose graves your factories, farms and neighbourhoods stand;
ask any of them this, ask them if the New World Order is true;
they'll tell you plainly: the New World Order... is you!