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Started by Cuddlefish, December 14, 2010, 05:23:25 PM

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Suu

Quote from: Doktor Phox on December 14, 2010, 06:27:52 PM
Quote from: Cramulus on December 14, 2010, 06:21:40 PM
Quote from: Doktor Phox on December 14, 2010, 05:57:57 PM
Quote from: Cramulus on December 14, 2010, 05:54:37 PM
latin is super useful because it boosts your English vocabulary. but it is a very difficult language to learn.

I disagree. It's inflected, but it's not terribly more difficult than Spanish.

No way! I had two years of Spanish, three years of Latin, and one year of German. I'd say German was the easiest, then Spanish, then Latin.

Latin has more genders, a, SOV sentence structure that is alien to English speakers, and inflects nouns and adjectives (in addition to verbs).

Spanish has genders and inflects nouns to a degree (and so does English, for that matter).

And not to blow your mind, but the SOV sentence structure is just a suggestion, not a hard and fast rule. It gets tossed by the wayside by real Latin all the time. But once you understand the inflectional system, and get past the SVO structure hangup, it's really not hard.

There's also declination and more cases than absolutely necessary.
Sovereign Episkopos-Princess Kaousuu; Esq., Battle Nun, Bene Gesserit.
Our Lady of Perpetual Confusion; 1st Church of Discordia

"Add a dab of lavender to milk, leave town with an orange, and pretend you're laughing at it."

Phox

Quote from: Suu on December 14, 2010, 06:33:36 PM
Quote from: Doktor Phox on December 14, 2010, 06:27:52 PM
Quote from: Cramulus on December 14, 2010, 06:21:40 PM
Quote from: Doktor Phox on December 14, 2010, 05:57:57 PM
Quote from: Cramulus on December 14, 2010, 05:54:37 PM
latin is super useful because it boosts your English vocabulary. but it is a very difficult language to learn.

I disagree. It's inflected, but it's not terribly more difficult than Spanish.

No way! I had two years of Spanish, three years of Latin, and one year of German. I'd say German was the easiest, then Spanish, then Latin.

Latin has more genders, a, SOV sentence structure that is alien to English speakers, and inflects nouns and adjectives (in addition to verbs).

Spanish has genders and inflects nouns to a degree (and so does English, for that matter).

And not to blow your mind, but the SOV sentence structure is just a suggestion, not a hard and fast rule. It gets tossed by the wayside by real Latin all the time. But once you understand the inflectional system, and get past the SVO structure hangup, it's really not hard.

There's also declination and more cases than absolutely necessary.

Wanan talk about too many cases? Sanskrit. 9 of them.  :lulz:

Suu

Quote from: Doktor Phox on December 14, 2010, 06:34:49 PM
Quote from: Suu on December 14, 2010, 06:33:36 PM
Quote from: Doktor Phox on December 14, 2010, 06:27:52 PM
Quote from: Cramulus on December 14, 2010, 06:21:40 PM
Quote from: Doktor Phox on December 14, 2010, 05:57:57 PM
Quote from: Cramulus on December 14, 2010, 05:54:37 PM
latin is super useful because it boosts your English vocabulary. but it is a very difficult language to learn.

I disagree. It's inflected, but it's not terribly more difficult than Spanish.

No way! I had two years of Spanish, three years of Latin, and one year of German. I'd say German was the easiest, then Spanish, then Latin.

Latin has more genders, a, SOV sentence structure that is alien to English speakers, and inflects nouns and adjectives (in addition to verbs).

Spanish has genders and inflects nouns to a degree (and so does English, for that matter).

And not to blow your mind, but the SOV sentence structure is just a suggestion, not a hard and fast rule. It gets tossed by the wayside by real Latin all the time. But once you understand the inflectional system, and get past the SVO structure hangup, it's really not hard.

There's also declination and more cases than absolutely necessary.

Wanan talk about too many cases? Sanskrit. 9 of them.  :lulz:

But I've never actually seen it offered at a school before.

Classical Greek is also a headache, because you have to learn a new alphabet and the way it sounds before you can really learn anything else. Much like a Cyrillic language like Russian.
Sovereign Episkopos-Princess Kaousuu; Esq., Battle Nun, Bene Gesserit.
Our Lady of Perpetual Confusion; 1st Church of Discordia

"Add a dab of lavender to milk, leave town with an orange, and pretend you're laughing at it."

Phox

Quote from: Suu on December 14, 2010, 06:36:23 PM
Quote from: Doktor Phox on December 14, 2010, 06:34:49 PM
Quote from: Suu on December 14, 2010, 06:33:36 PM
Quote from: Doktor Phox on December 14, 2010, 06:27:52 PM
Quote from: Cramulus on December 14, 2010, 06:21:40 PM
Quote from: Doktor Phox on December 14, 2010, 05:57:57 PM
Quote from: Cramulus on December 14, 2010, 05:54:37 PM
latin is super useful because it boosts your English vocabulary. but it is a very difficult language to learn.

I disagree. It's inflected, but it's not terribly more difficult than Spanish.

No way! I had two years of Spanish, three years of Latin, and one year of German. I'd say German was the easiest, then Spanish, then Latin.

Latin has more genders, a, SOV sentence structure that is alien to English speakers, and inflects nouns and adjectives (in addition to verbs).

Spanish has genders and inflects nouns to a degree (and so does English, for that matter).

And not to blow your mind, but the SOV sentence structure is just a suggestion, not a hard and fast rule. It gets tossed by the wayside by real Latin all the time. But once you understand the inflectional system, and get past the SVO structure hangup, it's really not hard.

There's also declination and more cases than absolutely necessary.

Wanan talk about too many cases? Sanskrit. 9 of them.  :lulz:

But I've never actually seen it offered at a school before.

Classical Greek is also a headache, because you have to learn a new alphabet and the way it sounds before you can really learn anything else. Much like a Cyrillic language like Russian.

That's true, but at least learning a new alphabet is easier than learning the same alphabet differently. *coughWELSHcough*

:lulz: :lulz: :lulz: :lulz: :lulz: :lulz: :lulz: :lulz: :lulz: :lulz: :lulz:

Suu

THE CONSONANTS.

MAKE THEM STOP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Sovereign Episkopos-Princess Kaousuu; Esq., Battle Nun, Bene Gesserit.
Our Lady of Perpetual Confusion; 1st Church of Discordia

"Add a dab of lavender to milk, leave town with an orange, and pretend you're laughing at it."

Cramulus

Quote from: Doktor Phox on December 14, 2010, 06:27:52 PM
Quote from: Cramulus on December 14, 2010, 06:21:40 PM
Quote from: Doktor Phox on December 14, 2010, 05:57:57 PM
Quote from: Cramulus on December 14, 2010, 05:54:37 PM
latin is super useful because it boosts your English vocabulary. but it is a very difficult language to learn.

I disagree. It's inflected, but it's not terribly more difficult than Spanish.

No way! I had two years of Spanish, three years of Latin, and one year of German. I'd say German was the easiest, then Spanish, then Latin.

Latin has more genders, a, SOV sentence structure that is alien to English speakers, and inflects nouns and adjectives (in addition to verbs).

Spanish has genders and inflects nouns to a degree (and so does English, for that matter).

And not to blow your mind, but the SOV sentence structure is just a suggestion, not a hard and fast rule. It gets tossed by the wayside by real Latin all the time. But once you understand the inflectional system, and get past the SVO structure hangup, it's really not hard.

I know you're a language maven and all, but the general consensus is that Latin is more complicated and harder to learn than Spanish.

Phox

Quote from: Cramulus on December 14, 2010, 06:40:05 PM
I know you're a language maven and all, but the general consensus is that Latin is more complicated and harder to learn than Spanish.

Oh, I agree that it's more difficult than Spanish. I said it's not terribly more difficult though. Compare: Russian or Chinese.   

AFK

Cynicism is a blank check for failure.

Cain

Indonesian or Spanish.

Both are easy to pick up, compared to most languages.

LMNO


AFK

Elvish.

Thank you, a thank you very much. 
Cynicism is a blank check for failure.

Cain


LMNO

Hey, do they still offer Ebonics as a language study?

LMNO


Phox