Nothing Can Go Wrong

[Random Probability]

It's true.  Nothing can go wrong.  Ever.

Seriously.  It's impossible.  Try it.  What?  Shit fucked up on you?  Oh, so that's why you think something went wrong.  What you are really saying is that shit didn't turn out the way you planned.  Well, why don't you go do the same thing you did before?  Right?  You were so sure it would work the first time, maybe the results were just a fluke.

Oh...?  What's that you say?  You can't do the same thing again because it won't succeed, just like what happened the first go round.  I get it now.  So nothing actually went wrong then, did it?  No laws of physics were violated?  No supernatural or metaphysical interference?  Good.  Glad we got that settled.

So why, pray tell, did you expect it to have succeeded in the first place?  There was something you didn't know, wasn't there?  Ah.  I suspected as much.  So if it all boils down to what you may or may not know, why do you keep insisting that anything can ever go wrong?  Events will play out precisely as they are meant to do in accordance with natural law.  You just need to get a fucking clue, mate.

[A.N. Other]

What about personal law and morals? If you feel that something has gone wrong, then it has. To say that nothing can go wrong because things went just as natural law wanted (if a law could ever want anything), while ignoring human thought and feelings, is to lessen humans and all life. It isn't just us humans who can feel bad when things get fucked up. Most other animals, too, can feel bad when things go wrong, and we would be denying them as well as us as a life.

Besides, natural law can never go wrong. Most times, anyway.

Anyway...I just realized...if things never can go wrong, what about civil disobedience? When African-Americans decided that things just weren't going right for them--or slavery, even--was it just natural law that they were oppressed? Tibet?

[Random Probability]

What about personal law and morals? If you feel that something has gone wrong, then it has. To say that nothing can go wrong because things went just as natural law wanted (if a law could ever want anything), while ignoring human thought and feelings, is to lessen humans and all life. It isn't just us humans who can feel bad when things get fucked up. Most other animals, too, can feel bad when things go wrong, and we would be denying them as well as us as a life.

Besides, natural law can never go wrong. Most times, anyway.

Anyway...I just realized...if things never can go wrong, what about civil disobedience? When African-Americans decided that things just weren't going right for them--or slavery, even--was it just natural law that they were oppressed? Tibet?

Take a step back and look at what you just wrote.  I have no idea what "personal law" is supposed to mean.  Morals are tied to beliefs and beliefs are just thoughts you keep having.  They don't actually exist.  Also, "laws" don't want anything.  They are examples of the way things are.  Like gravity, which just sucks.

As for feeling bad when existence turns bad... humans == animals (and vice versa).  Having a slightly above average ability to form abstract thought probably only makes the situation worse, but that's about it.  It seems to me animals (without an exagerated and artificial system of expecations) tend to simply accept the reality in which they find themselves and actually DEAL with it.

How exactly is "civil disobedience" an example of things going wrong?   Do you really want to deconstruct the circumstances surrounding the slave trade and everything that goes with it?  And what about Tibet?  What about any of these things makes you think something "went wrong"?

[A.N. Other]

I know humans are animals, that's what I meant. Personal law is just beliefs that you actually listen to (such as stealing is bad because the Bible says so. Morals are stealing is bad because either I say so or because everyone else says so). And just because you can accept reality doesn't mean things can't go wrong. I can accept the fact that people die, but that doesn't mean I'm not going to miss the people who die.

As for the rest of the shit I wrote, it was something to do with morals, but I don't remember the point I was trying to get at there.

[Jenne]

It's true.  Nothing can go wrong.  Ever.

Seriously.  It's impossible.  Try it.  What?  Shit fucked up on you?  Oh, so that's why you think something went wrong.  What you are really saying is that shit didn't turn out the way you planned.  Well, why don't you go do the same thing you did before?  Right?  You were so sure it would work the first time, maybe the results were just a fluke.

Oh...?  What's that you say?  You can't do the same thing again because it won't succeed, just like what happened the first go round.  I get it now.  So nothing actually went wrong then, did it?  No laws of physics were violated?  No supernatural or metaphysical interference?  Good.  Glad we got that settled.

So why, pray tell, did you expect it to have succeeded in the first place?  There was something you didn't know, wasn't there?  Ah.  I suspected as much.  So if it all boils down to what you may or may not know, why do you keep insisting that anything can ever go wrong?  Events will play out precisely as they are meant to do in accordance with natural law.  You just need to get a fucking clue, mate.

Can you define what you mean by natural law?

[Random Probability]

Can you define what you mean by natural law?

I don't have a better word for it, but by "natural law" I mean the way things work in IRL.  Gravity, thermodynamics, all that physics and cosmological stuff that we've barely begun to understand.  This includes all those things we haven't figured out yet, as well.

I know humans are animals, that's what I meant. Personal law is just beliefs that you actually listen to (such as stealing is bad because the Bible says so. Morals are stealing is bad because either I say so or because everyone else says so). And just because you can accept reality doesn't mean things can't go wrong. I can accept the fact that people die, but that doesn't mean I'm not going to miss the people who die.

As for the rest of the shit I wrote, it was something to do with morals, but I don't remember the point I was trying to get at there.

So "personal law" are just thoughts you keep having while "morals" are thoughts other people keep having.  Got it. 

My original point is the fact that if results do not match expectations for a specific course of action then it is a failure within the system of expectation rather than a fundamental flaw in the universe.

I don't see how imaginary things like "morals" or the whether or not we miss people when they die have anything to do with my point.

[Dysfunctional Cunt]

Everything goes according to "natural law" and that is the "right" way for things to go?

Explain then please, accidents, natrual disasters and the like.....

[A.N. Other]

I know humans are animals, that's what I meant. Personal law is just beliefs that you actually listen to (such as stealing is bad because the Bible says so. Morals are stealing is bad because either I say so or because everyone else says so). And just because you can accept reality doesn't mean things can't go wrong. I can accept the fact that people die, but that doesn't mean I'm not going to miss the people who die.

As for the rest of the shit I wrote, it was something to do with morals, but I don't remember the point I was trying to get at there.

So "personal law" are just thoughts you keep having while "morals" are thoughts other people keep having.  Got it. 

My original point is the fact that if results do not match expectations for a specific course of action then it is a failure within the system of expectation rather than a fundamental flaw in the universe.

I don't see how imaginary things like "morals" or the whether or not we miss people when they die have anything to do with my point.

Oh, nothing, really. I just wanted to know what a Moralist felt like. Know what? Makes you feel like a dumbass. As yes, morals are what other people tell you, though there is actually the rare moment where you come up with your own thoughts.

[Jenne]

Can you define what you mean by natural law?

I don't have a better word for it, but by "natural law" I mean the way things work in IRL.  Gravity, thermodynamics, all that physics and cosmological stuff that we've barely begun to understand.  This includes all those things we haven't figured out yet, as well.

I know humans are animals, that's what I meant. Personal law is just beliefs that you actually listen to (such as stealing is bad because the Bible says so. Morals are stealing is bad because either I say so or because everyone else says so). And just because you can accept reality doesn't mean things can't go wrong. I can accept the fact that people die, but that doesn't mean I'm not going to miss the people who die.

As for the rest of the shit I wrote, it was something to do with morals, but I don't remember the point I was trying to get at there.

So "personal law" are just thoughts you keep having while "morals" are thoughts other people keep having.  Got it. 

My original point is the fact that if results do not match expectations for a specific course of action then it is a failure within the system of expectation rather than a fundamental flaw in the universe.

I don't see how imaginary things like "morals" or the whether or not we miss people when they die have anything to do with my point.

Ok, this explains much to me.  Thanks for explaining further on these points.

[Random Probability]

Everything goes according to "natural law" and that is the "right" way for things to go?

Explain then please, accidents, natrual disasters and the like.....

You're putting emphasis on the word "right" for some reason.  Do you mean it in some special use of the term?  If so, please define.

As for accidents and natural disasters...  Name one event that violated the laws of physics.

[Random Probability]

I don't see how imaginary things like "morals" or the whether or not we miss people when they die have anything to do with my point.

Oh, nothing, really. I just wanted to know what a Moralist felt like. Know what? Makes you feel like a dumbass. As yes, morals are what other people tell you, though there is actually the rare moment where you come up with your own thoughts.

For what it's worth, it's a common mistake.  Humans are pack animals, just like dogs and chimpanzees.  It's common to confuse the salesman's opinion for one's own.  Most people don't bother trying, or even becoming aware of what they're doing.

[Jenne]

I don't see how imaginary things like "morals" or the whether or not we miss people when they die have anything to do with my point.

Oh, nothing, really. I just wanted to know what a Moralist felt like. Know what? Makes you feel like a dumbass. As yes, morals are what other people tell you, though there is actually the rare moment where you come up with your own thoughts.

For what it's worth, it's a common mistake.  Humans are pack animals, just like dogs and chimpanzees.  It's common to confuse the salesman's opinion for one's own.  Most people don't bother trying, or even becoming aware of what they're doing.

Hm, see, now to me, that begs the question:  is there any real difference between the two?

[Dysfunctional Cunt]

Everything goes according to "natural law" and that is the "right" way for things to go?

Explain then please, accidents, natrual disasters and the like.....

You're putting emphasis on the word "right" for some reason.  Do you mean it in some special use of the term?  If so, please define.

As for accidents and natural disasters...  Name one event that violated the laws of physics.

Right, as in the opposite of wrong.....

...since the laws of nature depend on the individual characters of the things constituting nature, as the things change, then correspondingly the laws will changes.  Thus the modern evolutionary view of the physical universe should concieve of the laws of nature as evoloving concurrently with the things constituting the environment.  Thus the conception of the Universe as evolving subject to fixed eternal laws regulating all behaviour should be abandoned. (Whitehead 1933, p. 143)

Thereby saying if said laws are subject to change, then there cannot be a wrong nor a right....

It just is.

[Random Probability]

Everything goes according to "natural law" and that is the "right" way for things to go?

Explain then please, accidents, natrual disasters and the like.....

You're putting emphasis on the word "right" for some reason.  Do you mean it in some special use of the term?  If so, please define.

As for accidents and natural disasters...  Name one event that violated the laws of physics.

Right, as in the opposite of wrong.....

...since the laws of nature depend on the individual characters of the things constituting nature, as the things change, then correspondingly the laws will changes.  Thus the modern evolutionary view of the physical universe should concieve of the laws of nature as evoloving concurrently with the things constituting the environment.  Thus the conception of the Universe as evolving subject to fixed eternal laws regulating all behaviour should be abandoned. (Whitehead 1933, p. 143)

Thereby saying if said laws are subject to change, then there cannot be a wrong nor a right....

It just is.

Oh, so you're saying basically (as concerns natural disasters):

Motherfuckin' bad wind came, blew down my home.
Now the green grass grows.
Bad wind came, blew down my home.
Goddamn goodness knows!
Where green grass grows there can't be wrong.
And goodness knows, there ain't no right!

Ain't no wrong now, ain't no right.
Ain't no wrong now, ain't no right.
Only pleasure and pain.

Or some such....

Did you know you have the incorrect unicycle but you're on the right road?

Just saying.

[Dysfunctional Cunt]

Everything goes according to "natural law" and that is the "right" way for things to go?

Explain then please, accidents, natrual disasters and the like.....

You're putting emphasis on the word "right" for some reason.  Do you mean it in some special use of the term?  If so, please define.

As for accidents and natural disasters...  Name one event that violated the laws of physics.

Right, as in the opposite of wrong.....

...since the laws of nature depend on the individual characters of the things constituting nature, as the things change, then correspondingly the laws will changes.  Thus the modern evolutionary view of the physical universe should concieve of the laws of nature as evoloving concurrently with the things constituting the environment.  Thus the conception of the Universe as evolving subject to fixed eternal laws regulating all behaviour should be abandoned. (Whitehead 1933, p. 143)

Thereby saying if said laws are subject to change, then there cannot be a wrong nor a right....

It just is.

Oh, so you're saying basically (as concerns natural disasters):

Motherfuckin' bad wind came, blew down my home.
Now the green grass grows.
Bad wind came, blew down my home.
Goddamn goodness knows!
Where green grass grows there can't be wrong.
And goodness knows, there ain't no right!

Ain't no wrong now, ain't no right.
Ain't no wrong now, ain't no right.
Only pleasure and pain.

Or some such....

Did you know you have the incorrect unicycle but you're on the right road?

Just saying.

Actually, I'm not saying that at all, you titled this "There is no wrong" I asked if that made everything right.  You asked what I meant by right, I explained.

You can't have one without the other. 

No order without chaos just as no chaos without order.  They may not balance each other, but they both have to exist!