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Started by Mesozoic Mister Nigel, June 03, 2010, 03:44:36 AM

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Dimocritus

Yes, guys. Penises and vaginas are two different things. Buuuut, both men and women have BRAINS, where these sensations/lack thereof, are being processed, and emotions which may potentially lead to feelings of inadequacy. THAT is where the problems become very similar. The question is if they are comparable (not if they are the same). They are. EOT.
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I was just saying that they're comparable, not that one is worse than the other.  I've had a reasonable amount of experience with male erectile dysfunction (because I'm scary in bed  :lulz: ) and I've had experience with my own occasional dysfunction.  Mine isn't quite so tied to my ego but that doesn't stop me from feeling really bad, especially if I'm horny and I really want to get off and I can't.

Also, I forgot to point out the existence of vaginismus, for which there is no pill.  Female sexual dysfunction is very poorly studied and there isn't really any medical recourse for it.  At least men have the option of viagra, even if it hurts their pride to need it.  Again, not that women have it worse.
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Dimocritus

Quote from: BADGE OF HONOR on June 03, 2010, 05:30:16 PM
I was just saying that they're comparable, not that one is worse than the other.  I've had a reasonable amount of experience with male erectile dysfunction (because I'm scary in bed  :lulz: ) and I've had experience with my own occasional dysfunction.  Mine isn't quite so tied to my ego but that doesn't stop me from feeling really bad, especially if I'm horny and I really want to get off and I can't.

Also, I forgot to point out the existence of vaginismus, for which there is no pill.  Female sexual dysfunction is very poorly studied and there isn't really any medical recourse for it.  At least men have the option of viagra, even if it hurts their pride to need it.  Again, not that women have it worse.

It's true.Women frequently get the short end of the stick (lol) when it comes to sex research. For hundereds (thousands and thousands?) of years, any female sexual disfunctions were blamed on a "wandering uterus," so if you had a problem,well, you were screwed (lol). And, even as time goes by, there still is very little unbiased and objective studies about sex in general, let alone focused on women specifically. Soooo, if people really want to figure out "who has it worse," the only conclusion is that the women do. Like Badge said, at least men get a pill.
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Quote from: dimo on June 03, 2010, 05:27:59 PM
Yes, guys. Penises and vaginas are two different things. Buuuut, both men and women have BRAINS, where these sensations/lack thereof, are being processed, and emotions which may potentially lead to feelings of inadequacy. THAT is where the problems become very similar. The question is if they are comparable (not if they are the same). They are. EOT.

Yeah, but womens' and mens' brains are as different as their genitals.
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East Coast Hustle

I don't understand what's so difficult about saying "yeah, they both suck but they're both also totally different and can't really be compared with each other".

Also, what kind of twat would be emabarrassed about having to take viagra? Hell, I've got a jar of the stuff on hand and I don't even need it, I just think it's an excellent addition to my recreational drug collection.
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Quote from: Exit City Hustle on June 03, 2010, 06:05:13 PM
I don't understand what's so difficult about saying "yeah, they both suck but they're both also totally different and can't really be compared with each other".

Also, what kind of twat would be emabarrassed about having to take viagra? Hell, I've got a jar of the stuff on hand and I don't even need it, I just think it's an excellent addition to my recreational drug collection.

Just guys who link their identity to their dicks.

East Coast Hustle

I kinda feel sorry for them. What are they going to do with the other 30 years of their lives?
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Quote from: Exit City Hustle on June 03, 2010, 06:36:02 PM
I kinda feel sorry for them. What are they going to do with the other 30 years of their lives?

Hurt babies.

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Erectile dysfunction goes away, when you stop being so hard on yourself.
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Quote from: Ne+@uNGr0+ on June 03, 2010, 09:54:10 AM
If I were able to have sex with horrible pain when my penis wouldn't cooperate, I would have made that sacrifice.

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Quote from: dimo on June 03, 2010, 05:27:59 PM
Yes, guys. Penises and vaginas are two different things. Buuuut, both men and women have BRAINS,

We men keep ours in our penises, and on vaginas, so to speak.  :)
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BabylonHoruv

Quote from: The Lord and Lady Omnibus Fuck on June 03, 2010, 10:05:32 AM
There is also the question of whether sex without female arousal is rape, which has certainly been proposed many times.

No.  Although as far as physical evidence of rape it's going to be taken more seriously if there's no evidence of arousal.

If a woman chooses to have sex when she is not aroused that's no more rape than if a man chooses to offer oral or digital stimulation when he is not aroused, or to take it up the behind if his partner is male or has a strap on.  Rape is sex without consent, not sex without arousal.  Someone who gets raped can become aroused by the experience, that doesn't mean she has consented to the experience.  That's pretty much common sense, the obverse, just because she's not aroused doesn't mean she hasn't consented, is just as true.  Arousal and consent are distinct and although they may be related it's not a direct 1 to 1 relationship.
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BabylonHoruv

The main difference I see between the two is that male erectile dysfunction is immediately obvious.  it can be seen and felt.  Female is only apparent to the female.

That doesn't mean one or the other is worse or better, it does mean they are fundamentally different because the possible reactions are fundamentally different. 

Also, I would say that chronic erectile function (male or female) is physically worse, but psychologically not as bad.  Here's why

If you know that you are not likely to be able to get it up or get wet you  are going to have measures on hand to deal with it and your partner is not going to take it personally because it is a regular thing.  On the other hand, if you can usually get it up, or can usually get wet, but this one time you can't, you are much less likely to have viagra or lube on hand, and your partner is likely to take it personally, thinking that you are angry with them, or they are unattractive at the moment, or something of the sort.
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Doktor Howl

Quote from: The Lord and Lady Omnibus Fuck on June 03, 2010, 10:05:32 AM
There is also the question of whether sex without female arousal is rape, which has certainly been proposed many times.

Um.  I thought that was dictated by the consent or non-consent of the female, not biology.
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