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Started by Mesozoic Mister Nigel, October 22, 2011, 12:44:31 AM

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Payne

High speed retractable/ extendable beard.

Cain

Cat penis condolence cards, complete with artifical cat penis.

Sir Squid Diddimus


Mesozoic Mister Nigel

Quote from: Cain on October 29, 2011, 12:06:30 PM
Cat penis condolence cards, complete with artifical cat penis.

I'd buy that shit. and I hate greeting cards.
"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."


BadBeast

Randomly picked Governments. Like Jury Duty. Compulsory compliance. Four year terms.(Unless you have a Doctor's note saying you are exempt because of your propensity for megalomania) Take the Politicking out of politics.
"We need a plane for Bombing, Strafing, Assault and Battery, Interception, Ground Support, and Reconaissance,
NOT JUST A "FAIR WEATHER FIGHTER"!

"I kinda like him. It's like he sees inside my soul" ~ Nigel


Whoever puts their hand on me to govern me, is a usurper, and a tyrant, and I declare them my enemy!

"And when the clouds obscure the moon, and normal service is resumed. It wont. Mean. A. Thing"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zpkCJDYxH-4

Cramulus

They had that for a while in Athens--didn't work out. Do you know somebody that absolutely should not hold a public office? In the lottery system, morons have a better chance of getting into office than competent people. (due to a high ratio of morons to competent people)

BadBeast

Well, the 'competent' don't seem to have much more of a chance under the present system. And there seems to be a rather high percentage of the corrupt and greedy megalomaniac type getting through. Most of the people I can see that "absolutely should not hold a public office" are either already there, or trying to climb the greasy pole of power by bribing and co-opting the aid of corrupt Corporate brokers. So even if they do get to the top, the favours they owe these Sharks will compromise any integrity they may have set out with. The random element will at least cut these Corporate Pirates out of the equation. I'd rather have a Government made up from normal people who haven't bartered their integrity away during their rise to power, than the present lot of Whores we seem to end up with.
"We need a plane for Bombing, Strafing, Assault and Battery, Interception, Ground Support, and Reconaissance,
NOT JUST A "FAIR WEATHER FIGHTER"!

"I kinda like him. It's like he sees inside my soul" ~ Nigel


Whoever puts their hand on me to govern me, is a usurper, and a tyrant, and I declare them my enemy!

"And when the clouds obscure the moon, and normal service is resumed. It wont. Mean. A. Thing"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zpkCJDYxH-4

Scribbly

So you guys know about micro-pigs, right?

How about micro-bacon!

Like regular bacon, but smaller! Therefore, less calories, cuter, and you can fit it in your pocket!

MICRO-BACON!

:bacon:
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HOLD ME CLOSE TINY BACON
"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."


Triple Zero

Quote from: BadBeast on November 01, 2011, 02:37:36 PMWell, the 'competent' don't seem to have much more of a chance under the present system. And there seems to be a rather high percentage of the corrupt and greedy megalomaniac type getting through. Most of the people I can see that "absolutely should not hold a public office" are either already there, or trying to climb the greasy pole of power by bribing and co-opting the aid of corrupt Corporate brokers. So even if they do get to the top, the favours they owe these Sharks will compromise any integrity they may have set out with. The random element will at least cut these Corporate Pirates out of the equation. I'd rather have a Government made up from normal people who haven't bartered their integrity away during their rise to power, than the present lot of Whores we seem to end up with.

But if you randomly select a moron, chances are pretty big some Corporate Pirate will find a way to buy them.

And even if you happen to pick a smart person, they'd still have to have a spine.

Similarly, the ones with a spine, might not necessarily have the best intentions.

All you do is let loose the system, which just means the one that can abuse the game the best, will win. And they don't have to be lottery-picked to win.

Now I believe that the Athenian government lottery-picked 300 people or so. That could potentially work very well if they'd keep each other in check from being bought out. Of course only if there's some sort of consensus among the general population that this would be a bad thing (which is not necessarily the case in the US, or many places).

Now I wonder, Cram said "that didn't work out", but did Athen really crumble because of their democratic lottery?

Also I remember there were some specific issues with the surrounding farmlands and such, and how they were (or weren't) part of this lottery, I forget how exactly, history's not one of my strong points.


Additionally I was going to reference this, but then I didn't need it, but it's still awesome/interesting, so here it is:
http://www.gandalf.it/stupid/stupid.htm
A bunch of essays on the nature of stupidity. Always a good thing to study!
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Cramulus

Quote from: Triple Zero on November 01, 2011, 04:49:57 PM
Now I wonder, Cram said "that didn't work out", but did Athen really crumble because of their democratic lottery?

TBH I hadn't read up much about it. Here's the relevant vocab words:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sortition
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demarchy#Lottocracy

trix

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