Anon Ups the Ante

[Kai]

Any time a major news outlet takes the time to report on something to tell you that it's not very significant at all, it is absolutely significant and people are freaking the fuck out.

This is a really good point which I will definitely keep in mind.

[The Johnny]

The member of Anon that got hijacked got set free 0.o

ETA: The hijackers instructed him to make public a message, which hasnt been released yet.

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

The member of Anon that got hijacked got set free 0.o

ETA: The hijackers instructed him to make public a message, which hasnt been released yet.

Whoa

I'm really curious!

[Pæs]

The member of Anon that got hijacked got set free 0.o

ETA: The hijackers instructed him to make public a message, which hasnt been released yet.

Source? Can't find it on fail phone Google.

This would hardly mean safety for anyone involved, would it? They have little to lose by releasing them to prevent the names being leaked and then retaliating at their leisure.

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

The member of Anon that got hijacked got set free 0.o

ETA: The hijackers instructed him to make public a message, which hasnt been released yet.

Source? Can't find it on fail phone Google.

This would hardly mean safety for anyone involved, would it? They have little to lose by releasing them to prevent the names being leaked and then retaliating at their leisure.

A leisurely retaliation would certainly result in the names being leaked, though. I mean, Anonymous members start getting offed, and other Anonymous members will probably release the names. Depending on how many people actually have access to the data.

[The Johnny]

http://www.eluniversal.com.mx/notas/806141.html

the hacker collective Anonymous Iberoamerica informed that the symphatizer that was allegedly hijacked in Veracruz by Zetas is now free...

[Pæs]

http://pastebin.com/XZRpjUZq

The Anon who had been kidnapped last month by the Zetas has been released, although it appears that the Zetas concerned did not know that the individual was the Anon whose release had been demanded by those who instigated #OpCartel. As such, no bargain has been fulfilled. Meanwhile, those who have been in possession of the e-mails have promised to provide them to me alone, which is to say that everything that proceeds from now on is my own work, and not that of Anonymous. Any reprisals against anyone other than myself, then, will have no effect.

As I've told several journalists today, I will be proceeding carefully and with the assistance of several parties who are equipped to assess the contents of these e-mails and particularly those portions dealing with Zeta collaborators. I'll announce the next step in a few days.

Finally, much of the reaction that this affair has received, particularly the dozens of often malicious predictions of my upcoming murder by the Zetas, is among the most degenerate displays I have yet seen. The idea that I should refrain from assisting in the naming of probable criminals operating in a foreign country without a working judicial system lest I be murdered is a cowardly sentiment. No individual living in the free world should refrain from working to fight injustice simply because there is a possibility of retaliation. Less important, but equally inane, have been the hundreds of comments and even media reports in which I am described as "foolish" for taking a risk in the course of something I believe in. Those objections dealing with possible repercussions to innocent third parties are reasonable, and I have made an effort to address those; those objections to the effect that an American ought not assist his fellows who have themselves risked their lives for this cause is informed only by a sick culture that is destined for destruction and replacement. If, by some chance, I am indeed killed by the Zetas, I will at least not have to contend ever again with the irritating and, frankly, faggy outpourings of a population that has proven itself incompetent to rule the empire that has been provided to it on the backs of others. Amrite?

Barrett Brown
transistor@hushmail.com

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

Buuuurrrrrn!

[East Coast Hustle]

Yep. Whoever Barrett Brown is, he's got a few rounds of beers on me coming his way should the opportunity ever present itself.

[Placid Dingo]

Brown is NOT releasing names

As is now widely known, the kidnapped Anon was indeed known to the Zetas as such, contrary to my reports from last night, during which I was only in sporadic communication with the person's friends. As the Zetas left a note with the person threatening to kill ten civilians for every name published, none of us will be proceeding with those particular names. Nonetheless, several of the 25,000 e-mails are being sent to Der Spiegel for confirmation, and in the meanwhile I will be going after other cartels with the assistance of those who have come forward with new information and offers of assistance. To provide information for this operation, which I'll be conducting with additional help from certain media outlets, e-mail me at transistor@hushmail.com.

http://pastebin.com/XZRpjUZq

[The Johnny]

Thats a retarded way to rationalize and pussyfoot with the consequences their acts are bringing on.

Just because communication was established with the Zetas and they came into an "agreement" with them, doesnt mean other cartels wont take action just because they didnt make an "agreement" with Anon, and arent about to go on a killing frenzy as they do every single day.

And the "technicality" that they didnt release it themselves, but sent it to a german newspaper to be eventually released? Really? The fact is that people are going to die from all these actions, because some asshole wants to play hero from the safety of thousands of miles.

And fuck you if you think that intervening on a foreign country for JUSTICE^tm or ANTICORRUPTION^tm that all these smudgy people dont have the "courage" to get themselves is good. To me its just the same as invading to defend DEMOCRACY^tm

Narco involved people are still people, fuck you. 

[The Good Reverend Roger]

Thats a retarded way to rationalize and pussyfoot with the consequences their acts are bringing on.

Just because communication was established with the Zetas and they came into an "agreement" with them, doesnt mean other cartels wont take action just because they didnt make an "agreement" with Anon, and arent about to go on a killing frenzy as they do every single day.

And the "technicality" that they didnt release it themselves, but sent it to a german newspaper to be eventually released? Really? The fact is that people are going to die from all these actions, because some asshole wants to play hero from the safety of thousands of miles.

And fuck you if you think that intervening on a foreign country for JUSTICE^tm or ANTICORRUPTION^tm that all these smudgy people dont have the "courage" to get themselves is good. To me its just the same as invading to defend DEMOCRACY^tm

Narco involved people are still people, fuck you. 

So, it is your argument that Anon should avoid any situation that may involve brown people?

[Bebek Sincap Ratatosk]

So the guys with the guns gave in to the guys with computers.... I may end up loving this century.

[The Johnny]

Thats a retarded way to rationalize and pussyfoot with the consequences their acts are bringing on.

Just because communication was established with the Zetas and they came into an "agreement" with them, doesnt mean other cartels wont take action just because they didnt make an "agreement" with Anon, and arent about to go on a killing frenzy as they do every single day.

And the "technicality" that they didnt release it themselves, but sent it to a german newspaper to be eventually released? Really? The fact is that people are going to die from all these actions, because some asshole wants to play hero from the safety of thousands of miles.

And fuck you if you think that intervening on a foreign country for JUSTICE^tm or ANTICORRUPTION^tm that all these smudgy people dont have the "courage" to get themselves is good. To me its just the same as invading to defend DEMOCRACY^tm

Narco involved people are still people, fuck you. 

So, it is your argument that Anon should avoid any situation that may involve brown people?

Speaking in a more composed manner...

They are targeting the symptoms and not the causes - giving away some names is only going to provoke executions, with new corrupt people taking their places...

And yes, radicals might say "fine, fuck them, let the corrupt people get killed", but that to me is a monstrous claim...

First worlders and medium to high class people surely can sympathize with the "war on drugs", because druglords are "terrorists" or whatever, but they dont take into consideration the context from which those druglords emerged... they emerged from a context full of poverty... so as ive said before, its the neoliberal economic model and the extreme poverty which is the origin of all of this, its not something that emerged out of nowhere

[East Coast Hustle]

yeah, I see what you're saying and I think I agree.

Speaking strictly for myself, I have no problem with the narcos in general. My desire to see people get fucked over and/or eliminated extends strictly to the Zetas, who I see as having no respect for the "rules of the game" and who IMO are so egregious and blatant in their unsavory tactics that it's giving other narcos a bad name and making it more difficult for them to make an "honest" living.