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I think the UK should have been negotiating with itself for about 4-5 years before article 50 was signed.

Figure out a stance and go into negotiation with that, not go in suggest something and come home to be told by the old ball and chain (Arlene) that these are not acceptable.

So in the short term, if the EU summit is missed, we'll start seeing businesses activating contingency plans. Some will be bad for the UK, expect manufacturers first, then the financials. The clearing houses will be making their mind up in November, which will be bad for the EU and bad for the world, 2008 here we come.

Aneristic Illusions / Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
« on: October 14, 2018, 09:22:18 pm »
Did he also have to kiss the holy nuclear football contritely? Say a few prayers in front of it?

So that leaves:
Remain in the EU full, or crap out on no deal, and than a hellish series of WTO schedule objections just to get on the same footing as all other WTO countries.

Say the government collapses and corbyn comes in, he has been more open to Scottish independence, not really open to another vote on brexit, and was open to an NI border poll.
I imagine cutting parts of the UK adrift just to get brexit through the door is not an option (as much as I would like to see a united Ireland in my lifetime, though I think now is not the time).

Literally everything other then remain sounds like a disaster, on either a European or World scale.

Aneristic Illusions / Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
« on: October 12, 2018, 02:34:13 pm »
Oh that is a nice way of handling it without the need for tit-for-tat murders.

Aneristic Illusions / Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
« on: October 12, 2018, 01:06:23 pm »
But a show of force needs to be made right, If I was even tangentially related to the saudi royalty and traveling abroad I would be nervous right now.

Think for Yourself, Schmuck! / Re: Reality Safari: Gurdjieff
« on: October 11, 2018, 04:27:52 pm »

After a few similar movements, she arranged us into rows and columns. We practiced different movement routines. All of them require a lot of concentration and attention. I have no grounding in theater or dance, so remembering a sequence of body movements is very difficult for me. I found myself frustrated and chagrinned. I tried not to identify with that feeling, so that I could use it as fuel for Being. When one is challenged, one must work through the frustration.

The music helps. The piano player brings us to another world.
So they are inducing you into hypnotic trance and training your bodies to be acrobatic and flexible. Maybe it's grossly offensive to say, but if you start going all Manchurian candidate on us, losing time, disappearances of political and industry figures in the newspapers, I am calling it now.

One of Gurdjieff's explanations of Self is the "carriage metaphor".

There's a carriage (the body), a horse (the emotions), and a driver (the mind). They're all connected to each other. They all "speak" different languages. The carriage can't move without the horse, the horse will do its own thing without the driver, and the driver needs to convince the horse to move the right way. The driver must also groom and take care of the horse. But this group is missing something--the master. The master tells the driver where to go (if they understand each other).

The master can't talk to the horse or the carriage, they don't speak the same language.
I really like this metaphor, especially the driver and the carriage, the horse is the only part that is hazy to me. If you calm the emotions and get them to be driven by your will, is it still the horse that is propelling the carriage, is emotion the only thing propelling the carriage, could memory be another horse, it is that something that can set off emotion in conflict with the driver? 

Yikes, that would basically make Wales and England a one party republic of Tory. I'd not considered that, what a horrible thought.
The idea of Scotland leaving I find weird because it would have the same border issue, and with the Tories being the dominant party of the what's left... I can see Pent and Payne out there feverishly rebuilding Hadrain's wall with bricks and mortar.

A country of 65 Million people held to ransom by 10 holdovers from the cretaceous period.

The EU have asked for confirmation of the NI issue for next weeks summit so the DUP are basically saying, if you throw us under the bus we collapse the GOV.
Labour aren't any more likely to get anything through, but Corbyn is mad enough to have a border poll in NI (and Scotland) to try and sort out the issue.  Neither May or Cameron want to be the ones to break up the UK, I dont think Corbyn would have any issue with it.

Apple Talk / Re: Ill-considered drama #1 of hopefully 1.
« on: October 10, 2018, 02:58:04 pm »
I like Kai.  I know this changes no-one's mind.  She's smart and funny, and has a diverse, creative spirit.  Her ongoing book project of a history textbook of America a thousand years in the future is really great.

Anyway, not looking to start beef, just wanted to say my piece.


She can be both, it's old beef, and that facebook engagement was a stupid way to interact with anyone, its disappointing.

That would stop the migrants walking the channel tunnel I guess, if it were to be stuffed with rotting meat.

Aneristic Illusions / Re: UNLIMITED Immigration Nutbaggery Thread
« on: October 10, 2018, 11:16:55 am »
I seem to recall some scandals in Canada too. 

The Sixties Scoop, and before that, the residential school system.

The residential school system removed aboriginal children from their families and placed them in compulsory boarding schools (most of them Catholic), in an attempt to assimilate them into Canadian culture.  At least 3000 deaths are attributed to poor conditions in these schools.

With the Sixties Scoop, the children were placed in foster homes or up for adoption, rather than being placed in boarding schools.

I remember these, the kids were forced to take on catholic names, forget about their culture and in some cases were handed to catholic couples and told to forget their parents.

Apple Talk / Re: Ill-considered drama #1 of hopefully 1.
« on: October 10, 2018, 10:11:34 am »
Way to abandon evidence based discussion and scientific discourse in favour of assumption and cheap ad hominem attacks kai.

This doesn't surprise me at all though, he does seem the type that gradually disappears into academia because he is unable to interact with others, until he eventually alienates them as well.

Apple Talk / Re: Welcome Back to Discordia
« on: October 09, 2018, 08:38:23 pm »
He says a lot of good stuff over at Scrubgenius.

Thanks, Roger. The feeling is mutual.

For some reason, when he's here, he can't seem to stop trying to measure dicks by posting the same shit over and over again.  Either this means that scrub is more his kind of board, or that he just doesn't like us, which makes me wonder why he'd bother.

That's because you're a bunch of assholes here. Or, at least you were when I first signed up. The problem isn't me; the problem is us.

Hopefully this will be the last time I actually respond to or address anything meaningful in this thread. I'd rather just shitpost mildly insulting comic strips once every few months.
I enjoy your comics, but if people stop being mean to you they may stop being funny criticisms of us. It would ruin the effect.

18 Percent are happy to leave the EU with no deal and 17 percent wouldn't mind. Which is in line with the 35 percent Brexit at any cost.

I'm going to assume that 35% of the population are not stupid and are in on some secret contingency plan, the only thing that currently makes sense is the UK has managed to develop some kind of jets to allow it to become a flying fortress Britannia to rival Bioshocks Columbia, and is able to trade with or pillage from whatever nation it requires, because if not this, then there is no explanation what these people want.

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