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Anyway, turns out young Mr. Harrouff was a Donald Trump fan, and while biting chunks of his victim's face off, the teen was wearing a “Make America Great Again” cap.

The really disturbing thing is that despite being a cannibal killer this guy actually sounds like he's more lucid and less out of touch with reality than the typical Republican, and even moreso compared to extreme Republicans. The article even makes reference to him at one point being "coherent", which is something you almost never get from your average Teapartyer, ever.

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Literate Chaotic / Re: ITT: Original Story Ideas
« on: August 20, 2016, 11:27:14 pm »
*Odin's missing eye has a life of it's own and gets into all sorts of wacky adventures and hijinks

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Another idea:
A parody of police/courtroom procedurals where the police and the courts that would usually provide the protagonists are replaced with sensationalistic journalists carrying on as if they were the police and the courts

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*A cartoon show about an automated hotel run by a motley crew of quirky robots and AIs. The manager is the monolith from 2001: A Space Odyssey

*An astronomer discovers the approximate date of the biblical apocalypse when a simulation of the universe's fuure stellar evolution turns up one third of the visible stars in the sky all exhausting their fuel within a relatively short period of time of one another (or possibly at very different times, but coordinated so that the end of their light reaches earth at the same time)

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*Light pollution is the stars-swept-from-the-sky sign of the apocalypse

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A story that starts out like Ratatouille, but gradually morphs into Willard

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A ghost haunting a house tries to subtly gaslight the house's new tenant

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Comedy skit: 2001 A Space Odyssey's star gate sequence is really the Monolith's screensaver

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Comedy about ancient Rome in which Caligula's war against the sea is presented in a manner satirizing the war on drugs


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A cliche action story and a cliche romance story play out simultaneously but largely independently leading up to a twist ending where the generic pretty boy from the romance runs off with the generic big boobed chick from the action film leaving the protagonists of their stories with no love interests.

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Another Idea:
Horror spoof of the Exodus story where he plagues of darkness and blood attract vampires

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Anotion idea:
Parody of The Passion following a generic roman criminal being crucified for murder

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Pseudodocumentary explaining how the Lernaean Hydra's natural enemy is the Jacobin Party and that's why it developed the defensive mechanism of regrowing it's heads

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Literate Chaotic / Re: ITT: Original Story Ideas
« on: August 19, 2016, 05:49:24 am »
Ok, so a story set in a 2-dimensional geometric world, similar to Flatland except not educational and instead of pseudo-Victorian the setting is solidly of a sword-and-sorcery type. The triangles are this setting's orcs and night-creatures, and they're trying to summon their demonic god to destroy the world. The heroes need to stop them.

(The inspiration for this came to me because evil demon gods that are associated with triangles are apparently already a thing for some reason anyway: Apomps the Three-Sided, Bill Cipher, Trigon the Terrible, et cetera.)

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Some more ideas:

*A magical-girl anime where the hero has satanically themed powers, including a mark of the beast on her hand and on her forehead that sparkle and glow when she uses her powers.

*A parody of Sailor Moon revolving around butt themed puns

*Comedy Skit: Parody of Lord of the Rings where the "Black Speech" is ebonics

*A heist movie set at sea. Maybe they're robbing a casino in a cruise ship or something. One of the crooks' names refrences deserts in some way as a spoof on the character Johnny Ocean.

*A singer uncovers a world domination plot by a race of mind-controlling and/or shapeshifting robot socks from the future (or possibly from space). I came up wih this while trying to figure out what Big Lurch was hallucinating when he accused that chick of being "a sock".

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Literate Chaotic / Re: ITT: Original Story Ideas
« on: August 14, 2016, 05:34:23 pm »
A gameshow where the gimmick is that every prize given out is somehow tasteless or offensive (ie. things like a variety assortment of dildoes, a vintage Nazi parade car, a lifetime supply of those sugar-free gummi bears that give you diarrhea, an autographed copy of If I Did It Here's How It Happened by O.J.Simpson, a bong, a framed print of Goatse, cigarettes, a copy of The Anarchist's Cookbook, a travel vacation to visit Chairman Mao's tomb, "Male Enhancement" supplements, The Birth of A Nation on DVD and Blu-Ray, laxatives, Girls Gone Wild the complete series on DVD, signed copies of PIHKAL and TIHKAL, gift certificates for veal and foie gras at various five-star restaurants, and so forth)

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A comedy about the Vietnam war. And I mean like a real comedy, not a comedy-drama. There's all these fucking movies about the Vietnam War and none of them are fucking comedies; the closest thing out there is goddamn Forrest Gump  :argh!:

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On a related note, I'd also like to see the Monty Python sketch about Worls War 2 where people aren't taking the war seriously expanded into a full length movie

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A dystopian sci-fi where the dilemma from Button Button is the basis for the world's most popular gameshow

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Literate Chaotic / Re: ITT: Original Story Ideas
« on: August 12, 2016, 06:11:46 am »
A biopic about the prophet Abraham depicting him realistically, as a schizophrenic of the potentially dangerous variety trying to eke out an existence in the squalor at the dawn of civilization

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Literate Chaotic / Re: ITT: Original Story Ideas
« on: August 11, 2016, 04:15:12 am »
A guy goes back in time and kills Hitler. Without the backlash from the Holocaust eugenics and antisemitism never go out of fashion. The man's own time is transfigured into a brutal and repressive police state. He finds himself forced to go back and save Hitler to put things right.

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Or Kill Me / Re: Get Miserable
« on: August 10, 2016, 07:33:50 pm »
Some relevant reading http://news.infoshop.org/opinion/things-anarchists-say

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People have no interest in actually changing things anymore. Talking about class and economics isn't fashionable, and in some cases it's downright dismissed and labelled as racist/sexist/homophobic/transphobic.
" “The line, 'it's not my responsibility to educate you, educate yourself' is being used too frequently."

Also gets the bell.

Also, it's worth noting that in addition to the reasons cited in the article for why this phrase should be used sparingly it is also the kind of line that, at least when I hear it, makes me assume that the other person cannot actually back their argument up.

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Aneristic Illusions / Re: Utah can't into filters on porn searches
« on: August 06, 2016, 07:37:49 pm »
Ok, I'll stop now. This has probably gone far enough.

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Aneristic Illusions / Re: Utah can't into filters on porn searches
« on: August 06, 2016, 07:14:57 pm »
Nope,  And I'm not saying sex with drunk people isn't rape either, just that having sex while drunk is a bad idea that is not as bad an idea as driving a car or lighting off fireworks while drunk.  Sober people shouldn't let drunk people do any of those things.

He is responding to the question of inebriation and its implications for consent, though. Those of us who agree with the law that a inebriated person cannot give consent, generally consider sex between a sober person and a drunk person rape.

When both people are drunk, those waters are muddy, but given the already fucked-up context of the conversation (whether children and animals can give consent) it seems that he is talking about one drunk person and one sober (or less-drunk) person. Which is rape.

But it lacks the key aspects that make rape terrible, those of traumatically being forced to do something against one's will. Why should it be declared to be rape without that key defining factor?

Here we have the crux of rape culture.  If rape is defined as narrowly as possible, to include only forcible penetration, then all sorts of other things, from intoxicated sex to coerced sex to sex with a power imbalance where one party doesn't really have the option of withholding consent all become ok.  The problem with that, aside from them not being ok in the first place, is that sort of definition makes violent rape more likely too. 

Several problems wih this. Firstly it's an insane slippery slope argument akin to saying that marijuana use will becoming a crackhead. Secondly, you've used sort of a fractured argument that basically boils down to a tautology of the form "if people don't define x as bad, then people won't define x as bad". Thirdly, nobody gets to choose how words are defined, not even lexicographers or legislators. What it means is how it's used and how its used is what it means. Regardless of consequences. You're not the Ministry of Truth and you're not Humpty Dumpty.

The key defining factor of rape isn't trauma, it's lack of consent.

Firstly, lack of consent is the key defining factor of many crimes that rape is universally considered to be worse than - Theft comes to mind - how then do you rationalize the difference in seriousness? The only explanation I can think of is that you're puritanically putting sex on a pedistal, that you believe it is somehow sacred rather than just a mildly dangerous recreational actility like smoking or extreme sports.

Secondly, I believe that you're position is unfair to the drunk person. That's who I've been concerned about this whole time. You don't really care what they want. You care about what you think they should want based solely on what would have been the more responsible action back in the ancient past before the invention of penicillin, latex, and birth control pills.

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Rereading that last paragraph I just realized a major problem with both sides of this argument. We haven't made clear who's initiating. I've been assuming that it is initiated by the drunk person, whereas you all seem to be assuming that it is initiated by the sober person.

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Aneristic Illusions / Re: Utah can't into filters on porn searches
« on: August 06, 2016, 02:59:41 pm »
The idea is when someone is drunk, their will is compromised.  Thus, anything you do to them that they may not have agreed to without compromising their will, is assumed to be AGAINST THEIR WILL.  Just in case.

Only their will at the moment matters (and changes in will before or after don't), otherwise any sex that you later regret (or wouldn't have tried before) would be rape, regardless of sobriety. And to be clear, alcohol impairs reason, not will; if anything it makes a lot of people more willful.

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Aneristic Illusions / Re: Utah can't into filters on porn searches
« on: August 06, 2016, 02:30:01 pm »
Nope,  And I'm not saying sex with drunk people isn't rape either, just that having sex while drunk is a bad idea that is not as bad an idea as driving a car or lighting off fireworks while drunk.  Sober people shouldn't let drunk people do any of those things.

He is responding to the question of inebriation and its implications for consent, though. Those of us who agree with the law that a inebriated person cannot give consent, generally consider sex between a sober person and a drunk person rape.

When both people are drunk, those waters are muddy, but given the already fucked-up context of the conversation (whether children and animals can give consent) it seems that he is talking about one drunk person and one sober (or less-drunk) person. Which is rape.

But it lacks the key aspects that make rape terrible, those of traumatically being forced to do something against one's will. Why should it be declared to be rape without that key defining factor?

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Aneristic Illusions / Re: Utah can't into filters on porn searches
« on: August 05, 2016, 09:46:24 pm »
It's a bad idea to be sure, but I take exception to the fact that people treat it as if it were a worse idea than driving a car or lighting off fireworks (or indulging someone else's desire to do so) in the same state of inebriation

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Aneristic Illusions / Re: Utah can't into filters on porn searches
« on: August 05, 2016, 09:07:42 pm »
I just have to say, I've been giving this a bit of thought (unfortunately) and something odd occurred to me.

My old dog used to try to hump about half the people that came over.  We kept trying to teach him not to, as both of us and everyone we knew didn't like him doing that, but he was definitely a horny fucker and always tried to get away with it anyway.

Now, if at some point I had learned that someone my dog was trying to hump actually let him, because that person enjoyed the experience and got off on it, I would of course be very grossed out and suspect trauma in the persons past.  I would believe the person needs help.  I agree wholeheartedly that such is bad.  That said, however, I would have a hard time considering my pet to have been raped, considering that would probably make his whole day, and he'd probably have completely forgot about it the next.

The point is moot, however, because such would damage the human.  The dog?  I'm not so sure.

Doesn't matter what the dog wants, just like it doesn't matter if a drunk person at a party wants sex. If a drunk girl comes onto you at a party, you swat that shit away like a horsefly (Not an actual physical swat, mind you. A gentle "You're drunk. We can talk, but that's as far as we're going tonight" will do).

And that's bullshit too. It's the law, but it's still bullshit. If you're somewhere that does not have a no-true-scotsman definition of consent there's no reason whatsoever for this course of action (at least no reason that isn't a strawman that automatically assumes out of hand that you automatically won't use any sort of protection in this situation, or that everybody will automatically hear about it (and that they'll care, and judge one or both partners, which is a moral failing on their end, not on the end of the people having the sex), when neither of these things might happen otherwise or that some kind of strong sexual imprinting is likely to inappropriately take place despite the negative correlation between drunkenness and memory-formation)

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Not that it's a good idea, mind you. There's the usual, perhaps even a more than usual (but still very far from definite) chance of doing something that could result in a chronic disease or an unplanned pregnancy (unless it's homosexual sex, which can never result in an unplanned pregnancy). I just take exception to the idea that this would be much worse than (or indeed, even close to as bad as), for example, letting this person have their car keys, which could cause a car accident. The worst case scenario for a car accident is people, perhaps even many people, being crippled or killed - very few people get killed outright by sex, HIV has been reduced to a chronic illness and to my knowledge there aren't yet any superbug strains of syphilis (gonorrhea yes, but that doesn't kill you and should clear up in under a year even without treatment) - and even an accident where nobody's hurt could mean expensive car damage, expensive damage to anything they drive into, and/or hundreds of people inconvenienced by accident-related traffic. (And yes, they could also cause an accident while sober, but so too they could also get an std, unplanned pregnancy, or reputation for sluttiness while sober)

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Literate Chaotic / Re: ITT: Original Story Ideas
« on: August 05, 2016, 08:55:37 pm »
It is discovered that the accelerating expansion of the universe is due to the Exotic (Negative-Mass) Matter created as a byproduct of an alien race's perpetual motion technology

As an alteration of the above, it is the result of many races' perpetual motion machines. This is (also) the great filter. These races, paradoxially the only ones capable of faster than light travel, have no reason to travel beyond their homes because their resources are unlimited.

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Parody of Inside-Out in which Disgust goes missing, and nothing bad happens as a result because, barring the end of the world and a retutn to pre-industrial levels of civilization, why would it

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Aneristic Illusions / Re: Utah can't into filters on porn searches
« on: August 05, 2016, 01:58:27 pm »
What about a dead animal?

Bad because you are incentivizing either murder

Moreso than hunting? Or the meat industry?

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