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Only in the case of the extreme version of the scenario from the bottom of the article where it fucks up Disney (and also, by extension, due to the impending merger, Fox)

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Hey, is there any chance of this actually happening? It's probably a long shot, but if it actually happened I think it would be the one scenario in which I would be willing to vote for Trump's reelection.

https://boingboing.net/2018/06/17/the-pharma-wars.html

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Aneristic Illusions / EU Article 13
« on: Today at 04:09:05 am »
It seems that in a few days the European Union is going to vote on a copyright enforcement and web censorship bill similar to the invasive SOPA and PIPA bills that nearly passed in the US a few years back. It's been roundly denounced by the Electronic Frontier Foundation, the Wikimedia Foundation, UN free speech expert David Kaye, and dozens of technology experts. If you live in Europe and like being able to use the internet you might want to contact your member of Parliament and/or sign a petition sometime before the 20th of June, which is when the vote is.

It's really a shame; the EU was the last power bloc that I still sort of respected

https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2018/06/internet-luminaries-ring-alarm-eu-copyright-filtering-proposal

https://boingboing.net/2018/06/15/contact-your-mep-3.html?utm_source=moreatbb&utm_medium=nextpost&utm_campaign=nextpostthumbnails

https://boingboing.net/2018/06/12/contact-your-mep.html

https://saveyourinternet.eu/

https://www.change.org/p/european-parliament-stop-the-censorship-machinery-save-the-internet


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Aneristic Illusions / Re: OFFICIAL POLITICAL CARTOONS/PIC FREAD.
« on: June 16, 2018, 09:50:00 am »
Does anybody have any pictures where Trump is Boris Badenov? There must be some out there but I haven't been able to find any

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Aneristic Illusions / Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
« on: June 16, 2018, 09:48:17 am »
He would be the type to be impressed by literally the worst country in the world. And make no mistakeNorth Korea is indeed the worst country in the world. People in impoverished war-torn dictatorships in subsaharan africa and the middle east and the former iron curtain can say to themselves "well at least I don't live in North Korea"

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Literate Chaotic / Re: ITT: Original Story Ideas
« on: June 15, 2018, 09:36:41 pm »
Rocky & Bullwinkle episode: Boris Badinov is the president

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What are the chances of this passing? A few years ago I would have laughed it off but I also laughed off Trump

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Aneristic Illusions / Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
« on: June 15, 2018, 03:09:08 pm »
Kim looks like he is wondering if this guy is as stupid as he seems, or if it's just an act to throw him off guard.

Personally, I think it's both i.e. he pretends to be pretending to be stupid so nobody can tell how stupid he really is.

or more like he thinks he's pretending to be stupid, but doesn't realize that he doesn't need to because he's already stupid

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Or Kill Me / Re: The Faustian compact
« on: June 14, 2018, 09:21:23 am »

Bad thing X happened because of seemingly reasonable concern Y


So, that entire wall of text can be summed up in one line? 

...


Apart from that, I have issues with the things you plug in for the X,Y values, as the wording of the premise lends the idea of objectivity.  The majority of your examples could be more accurate by substituting "was sold as an answer to" in place of "happened because of".  There seem to be deeper core reasons for doing terrible things to other humans, but doing those things were made palatable using loftier excuses.

I put my faith in Hanlon's Razor: "Never attribute to maliciousness what can be adequete;y explained by stupidity".

I believe that most of these defective solutions were for the most part proffered in good faith, by people who are stupid or crazy*. In either case whether it is stupidity or deception, caring deeply about the issue it relates to makes you vulnerable to it. Many of these solutions are worse than not tackling the issue at all.

The ultimate expression of this principle would be how Naziism was. in a roundabout way, a reaction to the effects on Germany of the Treaty of Versailles; as bad as the effects of this treaty were on their Germany, it still nonetheless would literally have been more responsible of them to deal with the problem by shooting up on heroin until they forgot about it instead of dealing with it the way they did.







*And not necessarily inherently stupid or crazy; more often a garbage-in-garbage-out type thing like folie a deux or theology, where they've taken in crazy false inormation and returned it in a refined form.

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Aneristic Illusions / European web cesorship
« on: June 13, 2018, 06:08:26 am »
Apparently the European Union is considering a web censorship agreement similar to SOPA and PIPA. That sucks.


https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2018/06/internet-luminaries-ring-alarm-eu-copyright-filtering-proposal
https://saveyourinternet.eu/

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Aneristic Illusions / Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
« on: June 13, 2018, 02:05:14 am »
Have we talked yet about fosta-sesta, the anti-free-speech bill that this idiot and the republican congress passed in april?

That's the bill that makes it functionally impossible for sex workers to function without a pimp, right?

That's the one.

Furhermore, it also makes most online dating and personals ads sites functionally illegal.

If nothing else says "Go fetch the Jacobins", this does.

It seems that, not to be outdone, the EU has recently proposed an even worse internet censorship bill

http://www.alphr.com/politics/1009470/article-13-EU-what-is-it-copyright
https://saveyourinternet.eu/
https://boingboing.net/2018/06/07/thanks-axel-voss.html
https://www.maketecheasier.com/eu-article-13-copyright-protection-proposal/

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Or Kill Me / Re: The Faustian compact
« on: June 12, 2018, 06:45:20 pm »
The quoted post cnsisted of statements of the form:
Bad thing X happened because of seemingly reasonable concern Y

But it's point was not to justify X but to show that even a reasonable concern can be very very bad if taken too far.

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Or Kill Me / Re: The Faustian compact
« on: June 12, 2018, 06:34:33 pm »
Hell no. Trump's actually a good example of what I'm talking about;

That's interesting, because the post I was quoting was basically a collage of Trump-faction talking points.
I think you may have read it backwards. In retrospect I worded it a bit ambiguously. For example the intended point of the statements "McCarthyism and America's slavish devotion to capitalism and greed both derive mostly from people being appalled by communist purges" and "Ayn Rand was a direct reaction to Jospeh Stalin" was not that greed is good, but instead that maybe we should have cared a little bit less about what Stalin was doing (especially since, in retrospect, it turned out that communism was a red herring and Russia is just inherently an authoritarian shithole). The intended point of the statement "USAPATRIOT act came out of people worrying about their safety," was that people are prone to panic; I personally wish that Bush would have just kept on reading that book for the next eight years, because he caused a lot less harm when he was underreacting than he did after he started overreacting. The point of the statements "SOPA was proposed as part of an attempt to protect an industry that employs lots of people," and "concerns about employment cause ludditism" was that if the course of our civilization means that an industry or employment sector dies, then we should let it die, like the lamplighters, carriage drivers, and whalers before them. etc.

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Aneristic Illusions / Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
« on: June 12, 2018, 05:28:20 pm »
I genuinely hope the talks today go well and that Kim isn't leading Trump around by the nose just to renege on anything agreed.

I just hope the talks don't end with a nuclear war. Given that one of them is an insane despot and the other is the leader of North Korea I don't really trust either of them to maintain a cool head and not make things worse.

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Or Kill Me / Re: The Faustian compact
« on: June 11, 2018, 07:53:10 pm »
Hell no. Trump's actually a good example of what I'm talking about; he cares so much about the American manufacturing sector that he's willing to fuck over the entire rest of the country in a vain attempt to bring it back from the dead. He thinks it matters where people come from; it doesn't. He thinks it matters what people believe; it doesn't. He thinks that restrooms matter; they don't. He thinks he matters because he's a businessman; businessmen don't matter; they're the lowest class of celebrity; his time as a reality star was more significant, and reality stars are not significant.

The problem (other than Russia and the electoral college, which also need to be handled somehow) is that for whtever reason a certain segment are impressed that he was a businessman, and care whether people have green cards, and worry about a dead and buried sector of the economy, and various other piddling shit like that, instead of not giving a fuck about those things. Personally I think that they should be sedated.

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