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Also. Why people hate atheists, part 734: Richard Dawkins.

Wiki provides some thought provoking info on people's reactions to Down's diagnoses.
About 92% of pregnancies in Europe with a diagnosis of Down syndrome are terminated. In the United States, termination rates are around 67%, but this varies significantly depending upon the population evaluated. When nonpregnant people are asked if they would have a termination if their fetus tested positive, 23–33% said yes, when high-risk pregnant women were asked, 46–86% said yes, and when women who screened positive are asked, 89–97% say yes.

Dawkins' view doesn't seem that far off the norm, so why slag him in particular?

Ok, while you guys are arguing about arguing the St Louis police done shot themselves another young black guy

19 August 2014 Last updated at 22:26
Michael Brown shooting: Protests as police kill armed man
He had a knife, and he was asking for it. No, really;
St Louis Police Chief Sam Dotson said witnesses reported the man had been behaving in an erratic manner, and emphasised the officers had a right to defend themselves.

"The suspect turned toward officers, pulled out knife in an overhand grip, told officers to 'shoot me now, kill me now,'" he told reporters.

Or Kill Me / Re: To a certain breed of atheist
« on: August 16, 2014, 07:10:33 pm »
Valid points, MMIX. In the OP I ignore my own plank while arguing that everyone have planks.

Yeah, its a real pisser but its easier to learn to think outside the box than it is to discuss things outside the box.  Acknowledging our planks is a good step forward; they are, after all, the ground on which our weltanshauungs rest.

Or Kill Me / Re: To a certain breed of atheist
« on: August 16, 2014, 02:30:44 pm »
I would have been a lot more impressed if you had said "we" rather than "you", which is quite ironic in the context of the point you seemed to be making. Aren't you displaying the air of arrogant superiority that you seem to be decrying in others, I mean "Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brother's eye and pay no attention to the plank in your own eye? Matthew 7:3 New International Version of the Bible. We all have planks, it seems to be an inevitable part of the human condition. The point is to deal with our own planks and not to slag off other people for theirs.  Sharing our planks with other people would seem [to me] to be a better way of getting other people to look at their own rather than  poking them in the eye with a sharp stick, if you'll excuse the pun.

NB I can't speak for all atheists [obviously] but, from my POV, its not an issue of “having the Right Beliefs” the important thing is “not having Wrong Beliefs”

BTW, you're not the end point of human thinking either. You're just recycled half-assed 19th century positivists[insert disparaging comment of your own choice here] .

Yes, yes it is

edit for not enough yesses - is that even a word?

Techmology and Scientism / Re: Weekly Science Headlines
« on: August 05, 2014, 09:20:50 am »
It's increasingly difficult to name anything that still is completely private anyway.

Though this does seem to again increase the importance of KYFMS.

You're not wrong

Techmology and Scientism / Re: Weekly Science Headlines
« on: August 05, 2014, 08:46:02 am »
I really don't know how I feel about this. I'm caught some where between 'Wow thats cool' and 'Fuck, nothing will ever be private again'

Extracting audio from visual information
Algorithm recovers speech from the vibrations of a potato-chip bag filmed through soundproof glass.

“This is new and refreshing. It’s the kind of stuff that no other group would do right now,” says Alexei Efros, an associate professor of electrical engineering and computer science at the University of California at Berkeley. “We’re scientists, and sometimes we watch these movies, like James Bond, and we think, ‘This is Hollywood theatrics. It’s not possible to do that. This is ridiculous.’ And suddenly, there you have it. This is totally out of some Hollywood thriller. You know that the killer has admitted his guilt because there’s surveillance footage of his potato chip bag vibrating.”
Efros agrees that the characterization of material properties could be a fruitful application of the technology. But, he adds, “I’m sure there will be applications that nobody will expect. I think the hallmark of good science is when you do something just because it’s cool and then somebody turns around and uses it for something you never imagined. It’s really nice to have this type of creative stuff.


From what I've seen, voices depend upon biographical experience. But what is biographical experience after all? Family interactions, the oh-so-broad term "experiences", and yes, of course, local culture.

So, i dont know, its nice validation that the schizophrenic experience is something more than "bad biological/physiological functioning" dictating everything, other than that i dont see the value or use of this finding.

 You might find that article interesting too

edit: fixed for wrong tone

Most of my voice hearing experiences are shaped by mescaline.

Interesting read though, thanks for that.

Mescaline / LOL. You wouldn't be the first  :wink:

This is a good overview for anyone who isn't interested enough to read the whole of Luhrmann's book.

This is a bit bad if its true
"As many as 100 of the world’s leading HIV/Aids researchers and advocates may have been on the Malaysia Airlines flight that crashed in Ukraine, in what has been described as a “devastating” blow to efforts to tackle the virus."

That's some serious collateral damage there.

Well the BBC seems to kind of believe it

Principia Discussion / Re: Historia Discordia
« on: July 14, 2014, 04:30:01 pm »
Bought that too, I should have ages ago, I've no excuse.
Well my excuse for the longest time was that I couldn't find the european version and I was damned if I was going to pay more for shipping than for the book itself, no matter how good the book. And it is very good.

Principia Discussion / Re: Historia Discordia
« on: July 14, 2014, 02:27:04 pm »
The contents are awesome but sadly the paper is truly awful - unless you are looking for something to wipe your arse with

I breathed on it and it puckered up

edit: Removed unhelpful edit

I had images of brown burlap, the paper is fine... its like text book paper, it's not fancy, but fancy paper is very expensive for printing.

I just don't think it will last very long. Which is kind of sad for a book. I  am kind of conflicted really because if it had been printed on paper which didn't pucker up with the humidity of a hand then it would probably have seemed to be too expensive to buy.

ALSO: I agree with your brief review 100%

I don't buy French apples, and I try not to eat them either. Its a longstanding boycott, nearly 25 years now. I normally explain it as "They don't eat our lamb so I don't eat their apples" but is a bit more complicated than that.
The reason

its a shame for me because French Golden Delicious was my favourite variety

Principia Discussion / Re: Historia Discordia
« on: June 29, 2014, 05:45:06 pm »

The cheap paper or the unhelpful edit
or maybe something entirely different???

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