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Aneristic Illusions / Re: Global Intelligence Files
« on: February 27, 2012, 03:57:26 pm »
Insight - McCain #5 ** internal use only - Pls do not forward **
http://wikileaks.org/gifiles/docs/347043_insight-mccain-5-internal-use-only-pls-do-not-forward-.html


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Curiously, there are whispers of McCain being set up by the Cheney/Bush
 crowd, because McCain was never liked by either. Some are shocked he did
 so well. Coupled with serious errors in tactics. Some made no sense.
 For example, the Hispanics in Florida loved Palin but his camp would never
 send her there when easy money was to be had. My guy said Rove and
 company want to bring in someone they can control next go around.
McCain
 was not controllable. Jeb Bush's name is being discussed. Source
 advised Rick Davis was an arsehole and McCain's econ team had no clue,
 trusting in academics vice business-people. The Jewish crowd was split
 and money never flowed. For example, McCain staff only gave $3000.00 for
 nationwide ads, when Obama put in $500,000 targeting the Jewish community
 in Florida alone.

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Aneristic Illusions / Re: Global Intelligence Files
« on: February 27, 2012, 03:50:12 pm »
Am I reading this right? One of the primary funders of the "Ground Zero Mosque" was a CIA employee? That controversy was totally manufactured...?!

Et Tu Baudrillard?


http://wikileaks.org/gifiles/​docs/​373982_re-ct-untangling-the-biz​arre-cia-links-to-the-ground-z​ero.html

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Whether the Cordoba Initiative ever gets its way with the Ground Zero
 Mosque, it may well have a lasting legacy at odds with its stated
 intention: By damaging the very moderates and progressives who actually
 view New York, and the nation as a whole, as a tolerant melting pot, and
 strengthening the position demagogues on both sides, it will almost
 certainly deal a setback to interfaith relations. It will also help to
 hobble the Democratic party. Which just might have been the point all
 along.

 Either that, or it's merely a coincidence that this controversy has
 erupted now, during crucial mid-term elections. In which case we can all
 go back to what we were doing before-either denouncing the Park51 Mosque
 as an affront to Americans, or championing it as a symbol of our
 fundamental rights-playing our accustomed roles in a drama that seems too
 perfect, somehow, to believe.

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Think for Yourself, Schmuck! / Re: Common Walls Debate
« on: February 23, 2012, 06:26:12 pm »
If TGRR was alive today, he'd also extend an apology for that, too.

But since he isn't, I'll take the liberty of doing so.  I am sorry.

Thank you Dok, I appreciate that a great deal.

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Think for Yourself, Schmuck! / Re: Common Walls Debate
« on: February 23, 2012, 05:46:49 pm »
I'm done with the project.

And here we go.  First one down.  The fucking thing will be tatters and rags by next week.

Another PD project crashes in fucking flames.  Thank you so very much, Cram.  But isn't that a small price to pay for your fucking relentless self-promotion machine?

For what it's worth, the above went too far inre: Cram.  My apologies.

thanks, sincerely

but - what about the accusation that I'm out to steal the project?

I didnt see crams post as an attempt to take over the project.

Me either.

I can't see how it could be taken any other way.

Please enlighten me.

because I'm still trying to figure out why I got flamed for suggesting that maybe we should start talking about design. That kind of suggestion is not inappropriate for ANY project*. It's a real stretch to call that an act of theft. And it's become a platform to air out overblown drama about how I steal everybody's content.

So while I appreciate your acknowledgement that you went too far in calling me a "fucking relentless self-promotion machine", that's only a slice of the bullshit ITT, and frankly I'm still kinda sore.



*and if those kinds of suggestions are now off-limits for anybody but the "editor", then collaboration really is dead here



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Or Kill Me / Re: Of ends, beginnings, you me and everyone we know
« on: February 22, 2012, 11:23:27 pm »
beautiful

I particularly like

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Everyone comes into their proximity and through some unknown beam of memetic qualities, they are ideas, questions and concepts to be carried with you, some will find them by religion, others by popculture, most by philosophy, some by science some by insight others by drugs some in a downward spiral others going up but the questions remain like infatuations or a particulate pretty face or cute ass, we carry our emotions with us, we carry our questions and the answers we know in our gut but not the phonetics to describe the silver city, afloat on splendour and made holy by the machine or the city of dis, nestled close to the heart of all mankind for hell is in our hearts, hell is where rebellions will be sat into motion, hell is where those who descend ultimately will ascend, hell is chaos, hell is friction, hell is emotion while the tower, ivory white is doomed to fall to answer a question

Who am I?
A collection of meat blood and bones, an animal of intellect but an animal still- I have a craving for something more that most likely will remain with me until my death, Who I am does not matter, I like everything else has already been interpreted, weve already gone through a different machine and I am me only as far as your own skillset of references go

What was your face before you were born?
How were my emotions, how was my frame of mind before I had that shot and brew or before I smoked this joint, who was I when I woke up this morning? It was a beautiful morning and I woke ahead of time and it felt like cheating because it wasnt part of the plan, it was free time to marvel in the fog before coffee and cigarettes take it all away, I think thats the closest, those twenty minutes as the world wakes and your light isnt on and nothings on you just peer outside and you know you are invisible and none else have woken and here alone in your god-time you gaze at the unborn masses

Will the soufflé collapse?
Yes.

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Think for Yourself, Schmuck! / Re: Common Walls Debate
« on: February 22, 2012, 08:53:15 pm »
Thanks Nigel, I appreciate that.


eta: IIRC we did have some hot discussion about if/how to monetize Intermittens, and once we passed through the seasons of discord and confusion, the end result was agreement - ultimately, nobody would try to monetize or sell anything, and we'd all be really explicit about licenses so as to avoid future permissions issues.

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Think for Yourself, Schmuck! / Re: Common Walls Debate
« on: February 22, 2012, 08:36:49 pm »
you're thinking of lysergic, who wanted to sell them at his friend's magazine stand in Melbourne

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Think for Yourself, Schmuck! / Re: Common Walls Debate
« on: February 22, 2012, 08:17:52 pm »
selling copies of Intermittens (full of other people's work) for beer money.

that's never happened, btw

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Think for Yourself, Schmuck! / Re: Re: Your Very Own Holy Book (TM)
« on: February 21, 2012, 06:16:20 pm »
As soon as there've been no new submissions for a week, I'd say that's a good indicator that we're out of steam on it.



Hmmm.... not seeing the part where I declared the project over and seized it for myself.

but I understand it's more fun to jump up my ass and act like I'm trying to steal Nigel's project, so I forgive you for poor reading comprehension


Thank you so very much, Cram.  But isn't that a small price to pay for your fucking relentless self-promotion machine?

riiiiiight, suggesting that we think about layout = self promotion

collaborating on this just ceased to be fun
yeah, I'm done here

enjoy

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Think for Yourself, Schmuck! / Re: Re: Your Very Own Holy Book (TM)
« on: February 21, 2012, 05:53:10 pm »
 :roll:

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Think for Yourself, Schmuck! / Re: Re: Your Very Own Holy Book (TM)
« on: February 21, 2012, 05:49:16 pm »
excuse me?

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Think for Yourself, Schmuck! / Re: Re: Your Very Own Holy Book (TM)
« on: February 21, 2012, 05:29:30 pm »
That's still kinda not finished, isn't it?

Perhaps --- but I don't think anybody's gonna declare it "done". As soon as there've been no new submissions for a week, I'd say that's a good indicator that we're out of steam on it. Also, having a "first draft" pamphlet is often what we need to see what the project is missing.
It's LMNO & Nigel's thing.  They should say when it's done.

huh, I thought it was a collaborative board project, my bad.

Anyway, starting to put together a layout draft =/= writing deadline


layout & design can have a big impact on content, it's not something you should save for the very end IMO

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Think for Yourself, Schmuck! / Re: Re: Your Very Own Holy Book (TM)
« on: February 21, 2012, 05:06:51 pm »
That's still kinda not finished, isn't it?

Perhaps --- but I don't think anybody's gonna declare it "done". As soon as there've been no new submissions for a week, I'd say that's a good indicator that we're out of steam on it. Also, having a "first draft" pamphlet is often what we need to see what the project is missing.


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Think for Yourself, Schmuck! / Re: Re: Your Very Own Holy Book (TM)
« on: February 21, 2012, 05:04:06 pm »
meanwhile cuddles, you should post the text you collected for your Intermittens issue, just in case somebody wants to lay it out . . .

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Think for Yourself, Schmuck! / Common Walls Debate
« on: February 21, 2012, 03:49:09 pm »
Awesome!!!

First, let's do Common Walls!

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