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Bring and Brag / Re: 777
« on: June 06, 2007, 04:21:48 am »
There's some way cool stuff in there! I particularly like
Mother Fucker
and
Bard O'Dummy
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There's some way cool stuff in there! I particularly like
Mother Fucker
and
Bard O'Dummy
10997
Principia Discussion / Re: ITT: Famous Last Words
« on: June 06, 2007, 02:41:06 am »
hi guys this is my first post on pd.com lol
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Principia Discussion / Re: Dead thread - posted in error
« on: June 06, 2007, 02:32:14 am »
if you see the responses to your posts as merely territorialism and tribal power games, I caution you may be missing the point.
Somewhere along the line, someone mentioned how all the "high post count" people seem to be controlling things. To me, this is another great illustration of the Law of Fives - if you're looking for second-circuit bullshit, you tend to see it everywhere.
I won't disagree that there's a lot of dick waving and shouting that goes on here, but if that bugs you, ignore it. It's not the point, it's the tone. A lot of people are rude or mean out of boredom, or for the lulz - not the need to lord themselves over someone else. And yes, some of them shit hate for fun, but that doesn't mean they don't have anything cool to say.
in conclusion, I do hope you'll make the decision to stick around - or not - based on something other than getting sneered at by a few people. It happens. And if you let it get under your skin, aren't you just engaging in the second-circuit submissive role?
Here is a moustache ride - free of charge
Somewhere along the line, someone mentioned how all the "high post count" people seem to be controlling things. To me, this is another great illustration of the Law of Fives - if you're looking for second-circuit bullshit, you tend to see it everywhere.
I won't disagree that there's a lot of dick waving and shouting that goes on here, but if that bugs you, ignore it. It's not the point, it's the tone. A lot of people are rude or mean out of boredom, or for the lulz - not the need to lord themselves over someone else. And yes, some of them shit hate for fun, but that doesn't mean they don't have anything cool to say.
in conclusion, I do hope you'll make the decision to stick around - or not - based on something other than getting sneered at by a few people. It happens. And if you let it get under your skin, aren't you just engaging in the second-circuit submissive role?
Here is a moustache ride - free of charge
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Think for Yourself, Schmuck! / Re: Is it time for a jailbreak?
« on: June 06, 2007, 12:27:39 am »until you detect harm you cant react to it
also
there is no sense causing a fuss where there is none
true in some sense, false in some sense...
I spent months on my couch, jobless, stoned, content. It wasn't until I started to run out of money and pot that I realized I needed to ignite myself - while there was still time.
I easily could have remained motionless and happy. but in the long run I think the risk was worth the reward.
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Principia Discussion / Re: Bogus thread - fucked up - ouroboros - moebius - don't expect any sense
« on: June 05, 2007, 11:36:38 pm »
Well, come on now. I didn't go out of my way to be an asshole either. I invited fellow newbies into one thread to share their confusion, and got stomped by people who've been here for years.
If you think that was stomping, you clearly haven't seen focused forum hate. People have been relatively diplomatic in trying to explain why you're catching heat and you're still playing the "everyone is so mean to me, the veterans are all assholes!" card.
these kids have been relatively nice to you.
If you want to see what these forums are like when you actually piss people off, check this out.
Quote
Principia Discussion
Talk about the book. Ask questions. Pick each other's brains. Pick fleas out of each other's fur. We don't care.
Foolish of me, I know, but I believed the heading.
I think you may be confusing that heading with "In this forum no one will critique you and everyone is nice to each other." If that were true, this forum would be full of garbage. (as opposed to now where it's mostly garbage)
Citation: check out the threads from like 2005.
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Or Kill Me / Re: Stop Trying to Save America‚Ѣ
« on: June 05, 2007, 09:12:42 pm »
The early Americans were in constant danger. They were seriously oppressed by a monarch that was a month's boat ride away. So they thought they could get rid of him, and it was a reasonable, achievable goal.
They had hope that they could succeed
and that hope made them idealistic.
the difference between them and us?
There's no way to fight the system anymore. You can't fight bureaucracy without fighting the innocent people its composed of. There's no evil king to rebel against, just a stack of forms and lines to wait in.
It was also a do-it-yourself kind of time. In such a small country with a weak government you were really on your own. I think about pirates (all the time). Now THOSE were some liberated people! You don't buy into that "productive member of society" scam? Go sign aboard a pirate ship, live outside the law, and sail around killing people and having fun. A merry life, but short. There's no similar option anymore. The bureaucracy is too pervasive.
They had hope that they could succeed
and that hope made them idealistic.
the difference between them and us?
There's no way to fight the system anymore. You can't fight bureaucracy without fighting the innocent people its composed of. There's no evil king to rebel against, just a stack of forms and lines to wait in.
It was also a do-it-yourself kind of time. In such a small country with a weak government you were really on your own. I think about pirates (all the time). Now THOSE were some liberated people! You don't buy into that "productive member of society" scam? Go sign aboard a pirate ship, live outside the law, and sail around killing people and having fun. A merry life, but short. There's no similar option anymore. The bureaucracy is too pervasive.
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Think for Yourself, Schmuck! / Is it time for a jailbreak?
« on: June 05, 2007, 08:53:10 pm »
I'm wondering what sort of things you can do to see the shape of your cell.
One of the dangers of a successful jailbreak is complacency. You escape into a better cell and then rest there. This is not to say that it's necessary to constantly reinvent yourself and your environment, but one should be careful not to think that their escape is ever over. The best time for a jailbreak is often the time you need it the least.
So what's my cell made of? For me, it's the place I live, the goals I have, the language I use to describe my world. It's the Colbert Report every night at 11:30. It's my body and its drives. It's my hobbies and interests. It's my sense of static self.
But I like a lot of that stuff - how can I tell what parts of it to cut out? How can I distinguish the bars of my cell from the things I use to decorate it?
For me, a change of scenery is the most effective tool. I like to take off for one or two weekends a month and spend time doing something else entirely. I need to go away and be somebody other than me - then when I come back to myself I can look around with a fresh perspective.
It's a ritual that I reccommend to everyone. Go be someone that's not you. Hang out with new people. Do something unusual, something out of character. Challenge yourself in a new way. These small reinventions of self give you a sense of the shape of your cell. If you're staring at the bars all the time you often forget what they are. A good self-liberated prisoner eagerly anticipates the discomfort of novelty.
So what about you guys? How do you know it's time to escape?
One of the dangers of a successful jailbreak is complacency. You escape into a better cell and then rest there. This is not to say that it's necessary to constantly reinvent yourself and your environment, but one should be careful not to think that their escape is ever over. The best time for a jailbreak is often the time you need it the least.
So what's my cell made of? For me, it's the place I live, the goals I have, the language I use to describe my world. It's the Colbert Report every night at 11:30. It's my body and its drives. It's my hobbies and interests. It's my sense of static self.
But I like a lot of that stuff - how can I tell what parts of it to cut out? How can I distinguish the bars of my cell from the things I use to decorate it?
For me, a change of scenery is the most effective tool. I like to take off for one or two weekends a month and spend time doing something else entirely. I need to go away and be somebody other than me - then when I come back to myself I can look around with a fresh perspective.
It's a ritual that I reccommend to everyone. Go be someone that's not you. Hang out with new people. Do something unusual, something out of character. Challenge yourself in a new way. These small reinventions of self give you a sense of the shape of your cell. If you're staring at the bars all the time you often forget what they are. A good self-liberated prisoner eagerly anticipates the discomfort of novelty.
So what about you guys? How do you know it's time to escape?
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Principia Discussion / Re: Could the nOObs STFU until they know what they're talking about?
« on: June 05, 2007, 06:54:34 pm »
yeah, heavily editing your own posts after people have replied to them is whack.
but whack like this:
not this:
but whack like this:
not this:
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Literate Chaotic / Re: Principa Discordia (where to find the PDF)
« on: June 05, 2007, 04:55:07 pm »
To me, it sounds like you're stuck in the Black Iron Prison
as for Chaos Magic - I used to be into sigils, servitors, and dream divinations. In the long run, however, I found I had more luck / success if I just enacted the change I was seeking through more mundane means.
NLP stands for neuro-linguistic-programming. As I understand it it's about rewiring how you perceive the universe using language and meaning. I recommend reading Robert Anton Wilson's Prometheus Rising - there's a link in the library section - I'll dig it up if you can't find it.
CBT stands for cock and ball torture. In the right context and with the right partner, it's really hot stuff.
as for Chaos Magic - I used to be into sigils, servitors, and dream divinations. In the long run, however, I found I had more luck / success if I just enacted the change I was seeking through more mundane means.
NLP stands for neuro-linguistic-programming. As I understand it it's about rewiring how you perceive the universe using language and meaning. I recommend reading Robert Anton Wilson's Prometheus Rising - there's a link in the library section - I'll dig it up if you can't find it.
CBT stands for cock and ball torture. In the right context and with the right partner, it's really hot stuff.
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Think for Yourself, Schmuck! / Re: Paths
« on: June 05, 2007, 04:24:05 pm »
This is a really good one. Personally, I'd flip it vertically, so the baby's at the top and the grave is at the bottom. If you trim off the gliffy tag, you should upload it to blackironprison.com
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Principia Discussion / Re: Revolt of the noobs
« on: June 05, 2007, 04:12:28 pm »
Bogus Magus,
don't take this shit too personally. The real difference IMO between a n00b and not-a-n00b is that we not-n00bs kind of know each other at this point. Many of us spend hours a day hanging out here and have gotten to know each others internet persona's pretty well. We're like friends.
It takes a long time to get to know someone over a text medium. So to me, n00b means someone I don't know that well yet. Or someone that hasn't gotten the hang of the social norms of this place. A higher post count doesn't help me get to know you any better, so it won't help anyone "fit in".
I also think that the word "we" is often misused around here. Like when LMNO said "we don't like RAW", it's the kind of thing that reifies the "us" vs "you" illusion. I for one, like it RAW. Oh baby I like it RAW.
We're harsh on newbs around here, true. But that's because this url attracts a certain type of Discordian that doesn't really click here. I'm sure you know what I'm talking about. It's not a hazing period, it's separating the wheat from the chaff.
Around here one needs to defend and refine their ideas constantly - that's how okay ideas become great ideas. That's how the Black Iron Prison project evolved. In a way, that's our brand of being really real Discordians.
So all that being said, can you see why posting a thread which encourages newbs to bump their post count was met with hostility?
Honestly Magus, you seem to be an intelligent and well spoken individual. I think you would fit in well here - we need new blood and new perspectives otherwise we're all just masturbating each other. But I advise you not to approach the board with an attitude of changing it. It is what it is. The newbs do not need a savior. They need spartan conditions. and this is spartaaa. *cough*
So take a breather. don't quit just 'cause some people are jerks to yuo. They're doing what needs to be done. This isn't a forum where people feel they have to be nice and polite to everyone, and in that it's one of the internet's few safe havens of truly free speech.
Professor Cramulus
"impotentia in absentia"
PS - if you post a pic of yourself I will give you a moustache ride
don't take this shit too personally. The real difference IMO between a n00b and not-a-n00b is that we not-n00bs kind of know each other at this point. Many of us spend hours a day hanging out here and have gotten to know each others internet persona's pretty well. We're like friends.
It takes a long time to get to know someone over a text medium. So to me, n00b means someone I don't know that well yet. Or someone that hasn't gotten the hang of the social norms of this place. A higher post count doesn't help me get to know you any better, so it won't help anyone "fit in".
I also think that the word "we" is often misused around here. Like when LMNO said "we don't like RAW", it's the kind of thing that reifies the "us" vs "you" illusion. I for one, like it RAW. Oh baby I like it RAW.
We're harsh on newbs around here, true. But that's because this url attracts a certain type of Discordian that doesn't really click here. I'm sure you know what I'm talking about. It's not a hazing period, it's separating the wheat from the chaff.
Around here one needs to defend and refine their ideas constantly - that's how okay ideas become great ideas. That's how the Black Iron Prison project evolved. In a way, that's our brand of being really real Discordians.
So all that being said, can you see why posting a thread which encourages newbs to bump their post count was met with hostility?
Honestly Magus, you seem to be an intelligent and well spoken individual. I think you would fit in well here - we need new blood and new perspectives otherwise we're all just masturbating each other. But I advise you not to approach the board with an attitude of changing it. It is what it is. The newbs do not need a savior. They need spartan conditions. and this is spartaaa. *cough*
So take a breather. don't quit just 'cause some people are jerks to yuo. They're doing what needs to be done. This isn't a forum where people feel they have to be nice and polite to everyone, and in that it's one of the internet's few safe havens of truly free speech.
Professor Cramulus
"impotentia in absentia"
PS - if you post a pic of yourself I will give you a moustache ride
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Literate Chaotic / Re: Principa Discordia (where to find the PDF)
« on: June 04, 2007, 03:28:29 pm »
After you finish reading it, let us know what you think!
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Literate Chaotic / Re: you can show them words - but dont waste your efforts
« on: June 04, 2007, 02:36:16 pm »
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Or Kill Me / Re: "Evangelicals"
« on: June 01, 2007, 03:07:26 pm »While I like the rant, I still feel that Rabid Evangelical Christians are still a minority.
A growing minority, yes, but I still think there are more people in this country that don't ascribe to the "no fags, no baby killing, no monkeys" thought.
also in america? that's a relief, cause sometimes when i hear you guys talking about the issue, it sounds like you're basically drowning in the fuckers.
so: if i'd approach the random person on the street, there would be a 99% chance they'd be christian (cause pretty much everyone there considers themselves to be one right?), but if i'd ask them about homosexuality, abortion and evolution i'd get what? depends on where you are of course, i presume.
Yeah it's totally regional. In the "Bible Belt" there's a lot more fundamentalists than in, say, New England.
Where I live (Connecticut) there are a lot of catholics and protestants, but not a lot of evangelicals. I know a few evangelical baptists, but they generally keep their mouth shut about gawd unless they're amongst likeminded company.
Occasionally you get people handing you pamphlets about the afterlife and whatnot. Last year a guy came up to me and asked me if I knew -knew for certain- where I was going when I died.
I told him "I think so"
which launched him into his ramble about going to heaven. I told him he only "thought" he was going to heaven, there's no real way to know until he gets there. Which he had to concede on that, but regardless he didn't like that I thought I was going to limbo peak. I told him Eris wouldn't be so cruel as to send me to Christian hell. Maybe Discordian hell, but that doesn't really sound so bad.
anyway that's the most proselytizing I've heard in three or four years.
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Bring and Brag / Re: YOU'RE NOT PAYING ATTENTION
« on: June 01, 2007, 03:00:25 pm »
[off topic]
Hey Syn - would you mind hosting the images for my Discordians in History article on your site? Photobucket pulled the one of the dude burning the chick lol. apparently their terms of service have something against 16th century tits.
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Hey Syn - would you mind hosting the images for my Discordians in History article on your site? Photobucket pulled the one of the dude burning the chick lol. apparently their terms of service have something against 16th century tits.
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