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Bring and Brag / Re: 4D-Cup: Raped by Food
« on: September 15, 2007, 05:14:19 pm »
I kept forgetting to listen to this, that with being at work and all. But I finally downloaded this track and

that rooooooooocked!

Mittens. BIG ONES.

Bring and Brag / Re: Suu's Sweat Shop
« on: September 15, 2007, 05:09:18 pm »


Or Kill Me / Re: ArÍte
« on: September 15, 2007, 04:12:36 pm »
but one thing i don't quite agree with. you seem to imply that most people do not freak and and party anymore. i dunno quite who you're talking about, but who do you think the people on the 4th pic are then? possibly not the most "enlightened" bunch.
as far as i know, just about everybody, maybe even especially the ones we consider to "not think for themselves", goes out and freak at least once a month. maybe not always in a way that we would choose, but tastes differ and everybody can have their own outlet.

Yeah the people in the fourth pic are definitely hanging with Dionysus. Especially Jean Luc.

maybe i go to a goa or drumnbass party and dance my ass off for a few hours, while others prefer to booze, drop a pill and go to the more "regular" clubbing institutes. even others rent a little vacation house near the beach and spend their weekend smoking a few vegetables, drinking white russians and watching DVDs or sitting on dunetops staring into the black nothingness (incidentally this is what i will do in two weeks).
and it doesn't even need to involve drugs, some of my friends can completely lose themselves in salsa-dancing once in a week.

It sounds like you're doing just fine!

my point is, can you give real examples of groups of people that do not, somehow instinctively, understand the need to let it all go and freak out, once in a while?
because as far as i know, everybody does it. maybe the elderly [but they don't need "saving", just our care, we cannot change them anymore, and should not want to *IMO*]

I'm not so much worried about the PD crowd. But I'd like to take this essay to other places where they might not have the same attitudes towards personal disorder.

My roommate needs a wakeup call, I think. He works a really high stress job then comes home and gets obliterated stoned, but it's more of an escapist tactic than a Dionysian one. I don't think I've seen him off the couch in months, and he's bored stupid but can't muster up the energy to go ignite himself, while there's still time.

I also wrote it as a reminder to myself, because I do find myself regularly choosing comfort over anarchy, and it would be healthier, I think, to have a little bit more anarchy.

Or Kill Me / ArÍte
« on: September 14, 2007, 07:48:47 pm »
- VS -

Are you Conflicted? Anxious? Doubtful? A Shadow of your Potential Self?

It's likely -- in fact, it's almost certain -- that your are living off balance.

There are two drives at war within each of us - the creation and maintenance of order, and the reckless breakneck chase of disorder.

Visualize a skinny nerd walking a big dog. The dog is trying to pull the nerd where he wants to go, and the nerd is gripping the leash with white knuckles. And you are neither the nerd nor the beast, but both at the same time.

Cut to:
Ancient Athens was a pretty hip joint. In its day, it was the central nexus of rational thought, a unique oasis in a world where most people were busy screaming and stabbing each other with spears. They had this word in Ancient Greece, ArÍte. Ar-uh-tay. It means Virtue. It means Quality. It means Heroism. And it requires balance.

Odysseus, the preeminent Greek Hero, was not a straight-laced do-gooder, a shield of righteousness and a spear of justice. He was kind of a bastard. He lied, he cheated on his wife, he insulted the Gods, and he killed more people than Rambo. He was both a man and a beast at the same time. But he was not weighted down by his personal Disorder, he made it into one of his virtues. That's Quality. That's ArÍte.

See, the Athenians believed that man has to romance his chaos. They spent most of the month worshiping Apollo, the God of Light and Reason and Harmony and Rational Thought. But for one or two days out of each moon, they ignored Apollo and worshiped Dionysus, the God of Drinking and Orgies and fantastic fucking Parties.

They had huge, unbelievable festivals which swallowed the whole city. Everybody in the Athens would put down their day-to-day selves and spend all night chanting and dancing and drumming and wearing strange masks. They really let their hair down. One might expect violence, human sacrifices, people fucking in the streets. Itís not just about having a good time, itís about experiencing those aspects of ourselves which we flee from, like fear and rage and sloppy drunkenness and uninhibited ecstasy.

Who participated in these festivals? Unlike the present day, it wasn't JUST the rebel kids: youths on the cusp of adulthood whose chaos hasn't yet been bled out of them by the Machine. The Bacchanal was attended by both the rich and the poor, the smart and the dumb, the old and the young. These festivals were what they needed - they needed to FREAK OUT and let the animal loose.

See the Athenians thought this was necessary for sanity. If they were going to get their Important Stuff done during the week, they knew they needed to kick out the jams on the weekend. A Greek Hero is balanced between Apollo and Dionysus. He's a warrior AND a philosopher. He's a good guy AND a scoundrel. He is a man, but he is also a beast. He is Apollo, but he is also Dionysus.

"Don't suppress your nature," the Greeks are saying to us. "Once in a while, party with no hesitation or regret. Let your beast loose."

Let yourself succumb to emotions like panic and fear and joy. Allow yourself to get lost in a riotous crowd all cheering at the same time. You'll lose your identify for a little while. Then when you put your Apollo back on, you'll be tempered.

And where are we now? I look around and I see very few people who know how to ride their beasts, let alone take them for a walk every so often. People are afraid of that aspect - they don't want to look in the mirror and see a frazzled, cracked out animal, bloodied and drunk, but still smiling. They'd prefer to see the guy with the neatly combed hair, confident and rational, comfortable and reasonable. The kind of guy who doesn't make waves. A go-getter with everything to lose.

You can't keep the beast tranquilized forever. One day it's going to leak out through your tension and anxiety. Itís going to make your rational-self uneasy. And when youíre loosest, it's going to claw its way out of your heart and murder all the philosophers and poets and innocent bystanders. It's going to hurt them and it's also going to hurt you.

The beast is, by its nature, not comfortable. It's emotional. It's savage. It's unpredictable. The beast is what you're trying to escape with your breathing exercises and iPod. With your drive for homeostasis and your metronomic routine. Living the way we do, we've all learned and internalized dozens of techniques to keep the beast in its cage. But itís going crazy in there, waiting for a moment of weakness to spring out and tear shit up. Your beast is a big strong dog, and your Rational Thought is a skinny nerd trying to walk him but barely in control. Who's in charge here? Who's leading whom? If you have mastered ArÍte, one checks the other but they move in unison.

So there it is. ArÍte. Itís not a mastery one learns by living by the rules and being in control every day. Itís not experienced by becoming the most rational, controlled, stand-up person you can be. Itís found by tempering your brain with your balls. Itís pouring your fire into a shot glass and drinking it
straight up,
no chaser.

Hail Eris

Think for Yourself, Schmuck! / Re: Content for... something...
« on: September 14, 2007, 07:13:08 am »
hmmmm how about

"What Zarath means to say is that neither the chicken nor the egg seems to give a damn which came first, so we may conclude that they were born, simultaneously, from a vagina."

Literate Chaotic / Re: In Progress X
« on: September 13, 2007, 10:06:05 pm »
not bad, keep it coming...

for future installments, could post it in the regular post body and not in a quote block? the smaller font is a strain to read in larger doses.

I like the narrator's attitude. Concerned, but detached.

Apple Talk / Re: ITT: Best Posts of the Day
« on: September 13, 2007, 08:30:52 pm »
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And the latest piece in the LMNO collection is entitled: Lights Out At Boarding School

It's an installation.

Literate Chaotic / Re: In Progress X
« on: September 13, 2007, 03:48:57 pm »
High quality, can't wait for more!

I particularly like...
  • The first two paragraphs. It sets up a sympathetic vibe, which makes anything you're about to say a lot easier to swallow. A lot of text we produce has a sort of bitter, condescending edge which I fear turns away people rather than attracting them. But here, I think you've nailed the correct tone and posture.
  • I like how the Fall of the United States is stated in the past tense.
  • At first I thought you were referring to the Seattle Riots of 1998 (?). Still not sure if that's where this is going, but the violence depicted seems more .. arbitrary. Harsh and unexpected. Which is interesting because it looks like you're setting the narrator up to sympathize with this enigmatic Movement.
  • the Movement with a capital M.

Think for Yourself, Schmuck! / Re: Content for... something...
« on: September 13, 2007, 03:36:32 pm »
Good post, Cainad.

A Tale of the Prudish One - What I like about this is that it's like a zen parable with a reverse punchline. These things usually end in enlightenment or some sort of moral. But instead, Zarath meets his nemesis. Which I guess is a sort of realization, but not the one one might expect.

The Book of Dewlap - Good as well. I like the burning and waving hands. My personal opinion is that the word Wombat is too "intentionally weird". Know what I mean?

Concerning the Number Eleven - I'm not quite sold on why 11 is important.

My favorite line from the post is:

"If I find Jesus, does that mean the game is over, or is it my turn to hide?"

as this is kopyleft, I reserve the right to YOINK it in the future.

Apple Talk / Re: ITT: Best Posts of the Day
« on: September 13, 2007, 03:15:12 pm »
This thread is like a meat grinder disguised as a fleshlight.

Literate Chaotic / Re: I have the greatest book EVER
« on: September 12, 2007, 05:25:52 pm »
My copy just arrived last night. I've had time to devour the prologue and the first 17 pages. You're right Cain, this is prime Discordian material and thanks for the tip.

Is the prologue hosted online anywhere? If not, I'd be happy to scan it and post as PDF

Literate Chaotic / Re: Los Frupanishads
« on: September 11, 2007, 07:24:02 pm »
Douglas Hofstadter has an essay about how the Uncertainty Principle is really widely misunderstood.

Basically he underscores that quantum mechanical reality does not correspond to macroscopic reality. That Heisenberg was talking about quanta, not systems on the level which we can personally observe. The metaphor usually carries, but should not be seen as a law or nothin'.

Principia Discussion / Re: Concordia Heads-Up
« on: September 11, 2007, 06:03:17 pm »
If he's laughing up his sleeve then that makes him rather pitiful. 

Hehehe, I dunno. He seems to have poked the bottoms of a few Discordians... and I think his anti-discordian rants are quite funny. Its such an obvious parody of some of the right wing christian anti*insert idea here* sites that I can't believe that you all aren't cheering.

Or is it only the Discordians that decide to order the same meal off of the menu that you find acceptable? If one orders silliness with a side of fnords, you call him an idiot, if someone orders anti-discordianism with a side of poke fun at the metaphors, you call him pitiful.

I'm beginning to wonder who's eating what menu.

plz do not be generalizing "all of you", especially if you're not including yourself

I'm not part of this hivemind you're referring to.

Principia Discussion / Re: Concordia Heads-Up
« on: September 11, 2007, 05:59:18 pm »
Yeah... Shouldn't he be laughing out his ass, instead?

Only if he's not already shitting out of it.

I mean, his shit's gotta go out some orifice. :P

Literate Chaotic / Re: I feel like an asshole...
« on: September 11, 2007, 05:57:39 pm »
I also recommend meeting him at a book signing and sucking his cock.

American Gods is based on Gaiman's actual travels across the country.
I have two friends that just took a two week long vacation to visit some of the locations in American Gods. I hear they brought me back a crappy keychain from the House on the Rock.

I really love Gaiman's take on things. As an Brit exploring the States, noticed that there are no thousand year old shrines or ancient cathedrals. But he felt that the real holy places in America are these roadside tourist traps and kitschy little one horse towns. Places where people are drawn to. The "real" America. I can get down with that.

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